Re: how do I get him to say it

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome Michele:

Here is a really good link about symptoms of apraxia.

http://www.tayloredmktg.com/dyspraxia/das.shtml

My son for the longest time had trouble with p,b,m sounds at the

beginning of words. He had to be taught lip placement and reminded

for the longest time to put his lips together to say

pay,pie,pea,etc. P was the hardest for him. Sometimes it would

sound like a d. Does your child have any Sensory Inegration

Dysfunction or hypotonia? Have you read the late talker book? It is

a really good start to understanding speech disorder vs. speech

delay. In the link section there is tons of information that might

help you in this journey. I can't tell you and I am not sure anyone

can tell you if what you are describing is apraxia. There are many

symptoms and other possible problems like Sensory issues that help a

child get diagnosed with apraxia. Here is a really long archived

message for new members with tons of info that might help you.

/message/64508

Here is the link to the link section--folders by subject.

/links

I hope you find some answers,

Tina

>

> My wonderful little guy who is now 4.2 years old has been

struggling

> to say the 'p' sound in a word. He can do it for a blend

> (ex. " please " is said as " pee " so he drops off the second letter of

> the blend and the final consonant sound) but he can not just say

> the " p " sound without a blend. It comes out like " t " . He can

> imitate putting the lips together and blowing with the lips

> together, but as soon as you add voice it becomes 't'.

>

> What is strange is that for the 'sl' sound he will say " pa "

> perfectly. So I will have him say " slide " and he will say " pa " but

> then I will immediately ask him to say " pa " and he will say " ta " .

> He does this everytime.

>

> Is this apraxia or just a phonological error? He can make the

> sound, but how do I get him to do it at the right time? I am

> working with two speech therapists who are stumped as to what to

do,

> and so I am hoping I can get some suggestions here.

>

> Thank you.

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Michele,

I just wanted to chime in and say that Prompt therapy or Prompt like

therapy helped my son learn to say many of the letter sounds that he

struggled with such as /p/. Frequently either his therapist or I, or

BOTH of us would show him with OUR mouths exactly where his tongue,

lips and jaw needed to be. Then we would need to gently move these

on him to help him find the correct placement. It can take 100's of

tries to get it. I remember I also used a mirror, a lit candle and

my hand or his hand in front of his mouth to show my son the /p/

sound. Tone can be involved so strengthening exercises do work for

some children - ie. blowing bubbles, candles and funky breath toys

that many therapists have in their arsenal of creative toys. My son

also thought it was funny to say pee because that's what we called

urinating. I would make a game of him blowing hard with a sharp

breath toward me, tongue behind lower teeth, pursed lips and then

pulling back the lips. When he got a good puff of forced air into my

face and a close approximation of the /p/ sound I would fall to the

bed or couch like he blew me over Being fun made it not seem so

much like therapy.

I wish you joy on your journey.

McCann

>

> My wonderful little guy who is now 4.2 years old has been

struggling

> to say the 'p' sound in a word. He can do it for a blend

> (ex. " please " is said as " pee " so he drops off the second letter of

> the blend and the final consonant sound) but he can not just say

> the " p " sound without a blend. It comes out like " t " . He can

> imitate putting the lips together and blowing with the lips

> together, but as soon as you add voice it becomes 't'.

>

> What is strange is that for the 'sl' sound he will say " pa "

> perfectly. So I will have him say " slide " and he will say " pa " but

> then I will immediately ask him to say " pa " and he will say " ta " .

> He does this everytime.

>

> Is this apraxia or just a phonological error? He can make the

> sound, but how do I get him to do it at the right time? I am

> working with two speech therapists who are stumped as to what to

do,

> and so I am hoping I can get some suggestions here.

>

> Thank you.

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am curious at what age these techniques usually start working. My

son will look at our mouths and his in a mirror, but he can't seem

to figure it out. He will sit for around a half hour doing this; he

is trying so hard it just breaks my heart for him.

Thanks.

Michele

> >

> > My wonderful little guy who is now 4.2 years old has been

> struggling

> > to say the 'p' sound in a word. He can do it for a blend

> > (ex. " please " is said as " pee " so he drops off the second letter

of

> > the blend and the final consonant sound) but he can not just say

> > the " p " sound without a blend. It comes out like " t " . He can

> > imitate putting the lips together and blowing with the lips

> > together, but as soon as you add voice it becomes 't'.

> >

> > What is strange is that for the 'sl' sound he will say " pa "

> > perfectly. So I will have him say " slide " and he will say " pa "

but

> > then I will immediately ask him to say " pa " and he will

say " ta " .

> > He does this everytime.

> >

> > Is this apraxia or just a phonological error? He can make the

> > sound, but how do I get him to do it at the right time? I am

> > working with two speech therapists who are stumped as to what to

> do,

> > and so I am hoping I can get some suggestions here.

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We had that. Two things were at play: Allergins and the need for

glasses.

>

> Hi,

>

> I am curious at what age these techniques usually start working.

My

> son will look at our mouths and his in a mirror, but he can't seem

> to figure it out. He will sit for around a half hour doing this;

he

> is trying so hard it just breaks my heart for him.

>

> Thanks.

> Michele

[Guest guest]

Michele,

I beleive I have been told that p is one of the most difficult letters to

say. When I have prompted with p, my therapist told me to take my Index

finger and my middle finger (nail side to their face) horizonally across

their mouth to prompt them with p. We used pop as the word.

Hope this helps. You will get there!

Colleen

Mother of charlie 30 months

[ ] Re: how do I get him to say it

Hi,

I am curious at what age these techniques usually start working. My

son will look at our mouths and his in a mirror, but he can't seem

to figure it out. He will sit for around a half hour doing this; he

is trying so hard it just breaks my heart for him.

Thanks.

Michele

> >

> > My wonderful little guy who is now 4.2 years old has been

> struggling

> > to say the 'p' sound in a word. He can do it for a blend

> > (ex. " please " is said as " pee " so he drops off the second letter

of

> > the blend and the final consonant sound) but he can not just say

> > the " p " sound without a blend. It comes out like " t " . He can

> > imitate putting the lips together and blowing with the lips

> > together, but as soon as you add voice it becomes 't'.

> >

> > What is strange is that for the 'sl' sound he will say " pa "

> > perfectly. So I will have him say " slide " and he will say " pa "

but

> > then I will immediately ask him to say " pa " and he will

say " ta " .

> > He does this everytime.

> >

> > Is this apraxia or just a phonological error? He can make the

> > sound, but how do I get him to do it at the right time? I am

> > working with two speech therapists who are stumped as to what to

> do,

> > and so I am hoping I can get some suggestions here.

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Michele

> >

>