IV glutathione

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glutathione IVs have been great for me. You can read my past posts for more

specific benefits. However, when I first started (600mg), I felt terrible the

day after - like a herx reaction. After that went away, I noticed signficant

improvement.

Al C.

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Hi Tom,

> I recommend everyone look into IV glutathione, but don't expect miracles.

I agree. The patient mentioned in the article had Lou Gehrig's Disease--not

Lyme or CFIDS. In any case, a large " trial " is going on right now and the

results will leak out eventually.

The sickest of the sick will happily settle for a 10% improvement if they

can't get a miracle.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

But there is an overlap btw Lou Gehrig's and lyme. Many Lou Gehrig's

patients do test positive for lyme. This doesn't mean lyme is

causative. Perhaps in some cases it is, and in others it is

synergistic with other assaults such as other pathogens or

enviromental poisons.

> Hi Tom,

>

> > I recommend everyone look into IV glutathione, but don't expect

miracles.

>

> I agree. The patient mentioned in the article had Lou Gehrig's

Disease--not

> Lyme or CFIDS. In any case, a large " trial " is going on right now

and the

> results will leak out eventually.

>

> The sickest of the sick will happily settle for a 10% improvement

if they

> can't get a miracle.

>

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

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> We are taking my almost 6 year old daughter, who is on Dr Buttar's

DMPS protacol times 6 months, to the DAN! physician on tuesday to try

a dose of IV Glutathione.

Please don't do this. If your child gets terribly worse and has a lot

of new problems afterwards neither I nor anybody else knows how to fix it.

>I guess it was recommended at the last DAN! conference

as it always is, often by a doctor who has had lots of horrible things

happen to people but pretends he has never seen any such thing when asked.

> to try this at least once. She has been on it orally and tests high

in her blood but the doctor says it is not getting into the cells

where she needs it. Has anyone tried the IV Glutathione and if so do

you have any advice for me?

Don't do it. Just say no. Cancel the appointment (and find a doctor

responsible enough to be able to practice medicine safely).

>Sincerely, Angie

>

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[Guest guest]

sounds like a possible detox effect. with the glutathione ,you are now

detoxing heavy metals andmany other reactiveoxygen specicies. I imagine

thisis sort of like a herx type effect. Check your magnesium levels

also. Headaches are often caused by a magnesium deficiet.

> Hi Everybody and Rich:

>

> I had my second IV Glutathione drip yesterday. My blood pressure

went

> up but not terribly. However, 2 hours afterwards my pulse started

racing to

> 95 beats/min, and

> I had an " MSG headache. " (It's usually 80 b/m). This

> happened on my first IV Glutathione drip as well. Does anyone have

any

> relevant data on this?

>

>

> Thanks

> Naomi

[Guest guest]

Two thoughts:

1) Start with a lower dose? Maybe 600 mg?

2) Only use preservative free--from Wellness Pharmacy. I tolerate it

great, but had a bad reaction to College Pharmacy's. You also want

relatively " new " glutathione so it won't oxidize.

> Hi Everybody and Rich:

>

> I had my second IV Glutathione drip yesterday. My blood

pressure went

> up but not terribly. However, 2 hours afterwards my pulse started

racing to

> 95 beats/min, and

> I had an " MSG headache. " (It's usually 80 b/m). This

> happened on my first IV Glutathione drip as well. Does anyone have

any

> relevant data on this?

>

>

> Thanks

> Naomi

[Guest guest]

Hi

has anyone tried Candigest to help destroy candida?

CS

[Guest guest]

Okay....I have switched from IV-C plus EDTA plus H2O2 to IV-C plus glutathione.

For malignant lymphoma (reticulum cell sarcoma, or bone lymphoma).

Is it okay to use glutathione or should I just stick with the IV-C?

Thanks,

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Okay....I have switched from IV-C plus EDTA plus H2O2 to IV-C plus

> glutathione. For malignant lymphoma (reticulum cell sarcoma, or bone

> lymphoma).

>

> Is it okay to use glutathione or should I just stick with the IV-C?

>

> Thanks,

> Dana

Dana, glutathione is crucial not only as a detoxifier and the main

antioxidant in the cells, especially the mitochondria, it is directly

involved in mitochondrial production of ATP, the energy molecule.

I wouldn't skip it; low glutathione results in disease (and death) even

when all the other antioxidants are plentiful.

That being said, IV glutathione only elevates cell glutathione, where

90% of it is needed, by the action of glutathione-sparing, meaning IV

glutathione is useful in the bloodstream but does not enter the cells;

you still need precursors for fresh glutathione production in the cells.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

> > Has anyone done an IV Glutathione push on their

> > child?

A very large number of people have done this - it is one of the fads

that is quite popular in the adult treatment community because it is

lucrative for the doctors, and it is now being taken up in the DAN!

community.

Unfortunately a lot of the people who do this end up with horribly

permanently worse children. This may occur after several iv's that

appeared to be fine and in fact beneficial.

I don't think this is an appropriate therapy for autistic children.

I have discussed this before in some detial on the list, you might

want to use onibasu or the andy index to find further information.

Andy . . . .

[Guest guest]

I have to concur with Andy as I have seen numerous adults have disasterous

results with IV glutathione (especially high dose). Of course, some people

have seen remarkable benefits but the problems I've seen (some of whom were

physicians themselves) far out way the potential benefits.

[ ] Re: IV Glutathione

> > Has anyone done an IV Glutathione push on their

> > child?

A very large number of people have done this - it is one of the fads that is

quite popular in the adult treatment community because it is lucrative for

the doctors, and it is now being taken up in the DAN! community.

Unfortunately a lot of the people who do this end up with horribly

permanently worse children. This may occur after several iv's that appeared

to be fine and in fact beneficial.

I don't think this is an appropriate therapy for autistic children.

I have discussed this before in some detial on the list, you might want to

use onibasu or the andy index to find further information.

Andy . . . .

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I had a call today from a woman with an ASD son..... the lady at the vitamin

shop gave her my number! Small town...

I felt so badly as she has a 3 year old without words and is just beginning the

journey of 'denial' of services (funding granted but no therapists available

story) with speech issues, OT, PT, etc. I could hear the pain and the struggle

in her voice and I knew that she found comfort in the pestering voice of my

child who answer the phone when she called. But one of the interesting things

that she told me was this.....

She flew him to Oregon and saw a doctor there who gave him IV glutathione.

After this her previously voiceless boy immediately began to speak! He

indicated that her son desparately needed a course of IV glutathione treatments

and could be helped tremendously.

Now, I give Mark oral glutathione and he has really responded but nothing like

that! Has anyone ever tried IV glutathione treatments and if so, what was your

experiences? Not rushing out to do this but I am curious to know if anyone else

has had this type of response......

Janice

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Janice

We have been doing IV glutathione along with other chelating agents more than

a year now

I cannot quit IV glutathione, for my 6.6 yr old , he has responded very well.

Get clamer and clamer'

Huge awareness and is increasing

expresive language

good eye contact

good speech

It definitely helps in detoxification and reducing the oxidising stress in our

kids..

regards

manisha

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

I had a call today from a woman with an ASD son..... the lady at the

vitamin shop gave her my number! Small town...

I felt so badly as she has a 3 year old without words and is just beginning the

journey of 'denial' of services (funding granted but no therapists available

story) with speech issues, OT, PT, etc. I could hear the pain and the struggle

in her voice and I knew that she found comfort in the pestering voice of my

child who answer the phone when she called. But one of the interesting things

that she told me was this.....

She flew him to Oregon and saw a doctor there who gave him IV glutathione. After

this her previously voiceless boy immediately began to speak! He indicated that

her son desparately needed a course of IV glutathione treatments and could be

helped tremendously.

Now, I give Mark oral glutathione and he has really responded but nothing like

that! Has anyone ever tried IV glutathione treatments and if so, what was your

experiences? Not rushing out to do this but I am curious to know if anyone else

has had this type of response......

Janice

[Guest guest]

If the mom can't afford the IV thing can she use the Dr. Yasko

protocol?

> I had a call today from a woman with an ASD son..... the

lady at the vitamin shop gave her my number! Small town...

>

> I felt so badly as she has a 3 year old without words and is just

beginning the journey of 'denial' of services (funding granted but no

therapists available story) with speech issues, OT, PT, etc. I could

hear the pain and the struggle in her voice and I knew that she found

comfort in the pestering voice of my child who answer the phone when

she called. But one of the interesting things that she told me was

this.....

>

> She flew him to Oregon and saw a doctor there who gave him IV

glutathione. After this her previously voiceless boy immediately

began to speak! He indicated that her son desparately needed a course

of IV glutathione treatments and could be helped tremendously.

>

> Now, I give Mark oral glutathione and he has really responded but

nothing like that! Has anyone ever tried IV glutathione treatments

and if so, what was your experiences? Not rushing out to do this but

I am curious to know if anyone else has had this type of

response......

>

> Janice

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice,

When we took our son for some alternative treatments for his brain injury, I

noticed the facility was offering IV glutathione. I talked with the doc about

it. It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory, so I can see the proposed benefit.

I have been so busy lately. I forgot (I think) to email you back that my

husband's hospital is currently doing a study with N-acetylcysteine for ADHD. I

thought of you.

(It's Clarian Health Partners --- Methodist, IU, and Riley Hospitals in

Indianapolis)

Roark

" There will be years that ask

and there will be years that answer.

In the end, God never wastes pain "

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[Guest guest]

,

I spoke with my environmental Doc today and he actually said that Nebulized

Glutathione was even better than the IV Glutathione and that if he could only

get the facilities, he would absolutely love to be able to offer what he called

" intranasal " glutathione.

Anyway, I thought of you as he spoke about Nebulized glutathione as being the

'top-dog'. That is what you use for your CF.... right?

Curious to hear about the study for NAC (helps make GSH, right?)

Teach all..... lovely to have " secondary " access to your resources.... so to

speak!

Janice

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Hi Janice,

When we took our son for some alternative treatments for his brain injury, I

noticed the facility was offering IV glutathione. I talked with the doc about

it. It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory, so I can see the proposed benefit.

I have been so busy lately. I forgot (I think) to email you back that my

husband's hospital is currently doing a study with N-acetylcysteine for ADHD. I

thought of you.

(It's Clarian Health Partners --- Methodist, IU, and Riley Hospitals in

Indianapolis)

Roark

" There will be years that ask

and there will be years that answer.

In the end, God never wastes pain "

---------------------------------

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.