Re: Has anyone else heard anything else about vocal problems?

[Guest guest]

alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i went

under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and left

me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your stomach

instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in after

you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have stated

they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a risk

for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i went

under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and left

me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your stomach

instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in after

you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have stated

they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a risk

for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I think ANY time you have surgery under general anesthesia and must be

intubated, there is a risk to the vocal chords. I had

upper/lower/genio on Oct. 5, 2004, and while I coughed a bit when the

breathing tube was removed, I haven't notice any change in my voice.

The chances of having vocal problems are small, but there is always a

risk. It's just a matter of how much the surgery matters to you vs.

the risk of vocal problems.

I have pictures as recent as yesterday (3 weeks post op) at

http://photos.yahoo.com/ashdash_99 .

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a risk

for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery. She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I think ANY time you have surgery under general anesthesia and must be

intubated, there is a risk to the vocal chords. I had

upper/lower/genio on Oct. 5, 2004, and while I coughed a bit when the

breathing tube was removed, I haven't notice any change in my voice.

The chances of having vocal problems are small, but there is always a

risk. It's just a matter of how much the surgery matters to you vs.

the risk of vocal problems.

I have pictures as recent as yesterday (3 weeks post op) at

http://photos.yahoo.com/ashdash_99 .

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a risk

for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery. She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

My mom's an excellent amateur leider singer, and they can't put a

tube down her throat for surgery, but that's for reasons other than

the fact she's a singer. She has to take in a note (which says they

can't see her epiglottis) whenever she needs surgery, and in her

case, they use a mask. Obviously, that's not an option when they are

working in your mouth.

There are some pretty graphic pictures of the surgery - but I

wouldn't look at them if I were you. Some things are best left to the

imagination (or NOT). Anyway, you can find links on the orthognathic

info website at http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ under

OTHER LINKS / ORTHOGNATHIC SURGERY. I think someone also posted the

link here, although I would never do so without an advisory, which

I've done on the info website.

There's also surgery MPG files and videos, but once again, I caution

most people from watching these things unless you have a very strong

stomach for that sort of thing. Post-op might be better, or not. I

have no desire myself.

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from

McAfee®

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[Guest guest]

My mom's an excellent amateur leider singer, and they can't put a

tube down her throat for surgery, but that's for reasons other than

the fact she's a singer. She has to take in a note (which says they

can't see her epiglottis) whenever she needs surgery, and in her

case, they use a mask. Obviously, that's not an option when they are

working in your mouth.

There are some pretty graphic pictures of the surgery - but I

wouldn't look at them if I were you. Some things are best left to the

imagination (or NOT). Anyway, you can find links on the orthognathic

info website at http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ under

OTHER LINKS / ORTHOGNATHIC SURGERY. I think someone also posted the

link here, although I would never do so without an advisory, which

I've done on the info website.

There's also surgery MPG files and videos, but once again, I caution

most people from watching these things unless you have a very strong

stomach for that sort of thing. Post-op might be better, or not. I

have no desire myself.

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I understand your question, but here goes:

There are surgeries and there are Surgeries. I had, for example,

carpal tunnel surgery with sedation by IV. I was just as out of it,

but the long-term effects were less pronounced.

I asked my oral surgeon if he couldn't do the jaw surgery the same

way, and he said, " We'd wake you up. "

It's my understanding that all of these procedures on the jaw require

general anesthesia, which, far as I know, requires intubation. But

I'm not a doc, nor a nurse. Why not tell your surgeon, or any you

interview, what you're worried about and ask him?

Cammie

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I understand your question, but here goes:

There are surgeries and there are Surgeries. I had, for example,

carpal tunnel surgery with sedation by IV. I was just as out of it,

but the long-term effects were less pronounced.

I asked my oral surgeon if he couldn't do the jaw surgery the same

way, and he said, " We'd wake you up. "

It's my understanding that all of these procedures on the jaw require

general anesthesia, which, far as I know, requires intubation. But

I'm not a doc, nor a nurse. Why not tell your surgeon, or any you

interview, what you're worried about and ask him?

Cammie

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

[Guest guest]

Here again, I stand ready to be corrected. But it's my understanding

that there are actually two tubes. One is for the anesthesia, and it

is very important that it go into the bronchial tubes rather than

elsewhere. (I know that anesthesiologists are subject to enormous

malpractice insurance fees, and that they do get sued when they screw

up -- which, thank heavens, is not often, as it's generally very

serious when they do! but I'd like to think that they're very, very

careful because they want their patients to do well!)

The second tube is a naso-gastric tube, and goes down into the

stomach to get rid of any blood that finds its way there, and to help

prevent nausea.

I say this only because it's easy to get confused about what the doc

is telling you when you're hearing about stuff that you fear and are

anxious about. That's one reason I took a tape recorder with me, and

was glad my surgeon didn't mind my taping our q & a session, for my

reference. If your doc mentions the tube into your stomach, don't

panic and think he should be telling you about one into your

breathing apparatus and doesn't know what he's doing!

Cammie

>

> alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i

went

> under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and

left

> me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

> airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

> problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your stomach

> instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

> really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in

after

> you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have

stated

> they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

>

[Guest guest]

Here again, I stand ready to be corrected. But it's my understanding

that there are actually two tubes. One is for the anesthesia, and it

is very important that it go into the bronchial tubes rather than

elsewhere. (I know that anesthesiologists are subject to enormous

malpractice insurance fees, and that they do get sued when they screw

up -- which, thank heavens, is not often, as it's generally very

serious when they do! but I'd like to think that they're very, very

careful because they want their patients to do well!)

The second tube is a naso-gastric tube, and goes down into the

stomach to get rid of any blood that finds its way there, and to help

prevent nausea.

I say this only because it's easy to get confused about what the doc

is telling you when you're hearing about stuff that you fear and are

anxious about. That's one reason I took a tape recorder with me, and

was glad my surgeon didn't mind my taping our q & a session, for my

reference. If your doc mentions the tube into your stomach, don't

panic and think he should be telling you about one into your

breathing apparatus and doesn't know what he's doing!

Cammie

>

> alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i

went

> under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and

left

> me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

> airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

> problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your stomach

> instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

> really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in

after

> you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have

stated

> they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

>

[Guest guest]

I suppose it would depends too on how much and which way your jaws

will be adjusted. For what it's worth, a female wrestler (Chynna I

think her name is)had orthognathic surgery to correct her lower jaw,

and her voice sounds the same in an interview I saw on TV.

I also heard that h Carey also had surgery many moons ago when

she was younger, since her mouth is veeerrry different from her

childhood pics...

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

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I suppose it would depends too on how much and which way your jaws

will be adjusted. For what it's worth, a female wrestler (Chynna I

think her name is)had orthognathic surgery to correct her lower jaw,

and her voice sounds the same in an interview I saw on TV.

I also heard that h Carey also had surgery many moons ago when

she was younger, since her mouth is veeerrry different from her

childhood pics...

> i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

gather all

> the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

risk for

> pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

upper/lower/genio

> advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> alex

>

> >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1, BSSO,

and Genio.

> >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely discuss it

> >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like if

> >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my nose

> >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I might

not

> >be able to do that.

> >

> >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start zinc, up

> >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and food

> >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the lactose

> >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted to

> >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be taking

> >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

She

> >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> >recommendations. She recommended using green drink supplements, or

> >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head to the

> >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

with

> >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in some of

> >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too. This

> >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

tolerate.

> >

> >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure don't

> >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a long

> >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they whipped us

> >in and out quickly.

> >

> >Thanks again for all the help.

> >

> >Shirley

> >

> >

> >

>

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The naso-gastric tube is the one that I think caused my problems. In

2 weeks I am seeing a ENT doctor who is going to look if my vocal

cords are ok. It's not like I can't talk or sing, it's just that

occasionally my voice disappears and reappears. I certainly didn't

think that intubation would affect my vocal cords. I will wait for

the outcome of the results of the ENT to see if the surgery was worth

this risk...

I have 2 other issues that are making it hard for me to say that I am

100% happy with the results: one is the couple millimeters lip

incompetence that I have now (did not have before surgery) and I am

trying to get used to. Another is that I think I might have tongue

thrust I never knew about (or maybe it is being caused by this lip

incompetence?), it was never an issue before surgery but now that my

teeth are back and straight and my lower jaw is advanced, I do notice

that when I swallow, I (sometimes) push my tongue against my upper

front teeth.

Nathalie

> >

> > alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i

> went

> > under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and

> left

> > me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

> > airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

> > problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your

stomach

> > instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

> > really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in

> after

> > you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have

> stated

> > they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

> >

[Guest guest]

The naso-gastric tube is the one that I think caused my problems. In

2 weeks I am seeing a ENT doctor who is going to look if my vocal

cords are ok. It's not like I can't talk or sing, it's just that

occasionally my voice disappears and reappears. I certainly didn't

think that intubation would affect my vocal cords. I will wait for

the outcome of the results of the ENT to see if the surgery was worth

this risk...

I have 2 other issues that are making it hard for me to say that I am

100% happy with the results: one is the couple millimeters lip

incompetence that I have now (did not have before surgery) and I am

trying to get used to. Another is that I think I might have tongue

thrust I never knew about (or maybe it is being caused by this lip

incompetence?), it was never an issue before surgery but now that my

teeth are back and straight and my lower jaw is advanced, I do notice

that when I swallow, I (sometimes) push my tongue against my upper

front teeth.

Nathalie

> >

> > alex, yes the tube is a risk with any surgery. the first time i

> went

> > under i had a really narrow airway and it scratched my throat and

> left

> > me with a sore throat for 4 or 5 days. the second time after the

> > airway was opened up from the lower advancement i felt nada! one

> > problem that can occur is they accidently put it into your

stomach

> > instead of your bronchial tube but anesthesiologists are usually

> > really careful these days due to litigation. It usually goes in

> after

> > you're out and gets removed before you recover though some have

> stated

> > they woke up with the tube. hope that helps/eric

> >

[Guest guest]

You're welcome. Let me know what you find out because the last time I

tried to verify that rumor, I had no luck online.

> > > i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

> >gather all

> > > the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

> >risk for

> > > pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

> >upper/lower/genio

> > > advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> > > alex

> > >

> > > >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> > > >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> > > >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> > > >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1,

BSSO,

> >and Genio.

> > > >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hi ,

> > > >

> > > >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely

discuss it

> > > >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like

if

> > > >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> > > >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my

nose

> > > >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I

might

> >not

> > > >be able to do that.

> > > >

> > > >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> > > >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start

zinc, up

> > > >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> > > >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and

food

> > > >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the

lactose

> > > >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted

to

> > > >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be

taking

> > > >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

> >She

> > > >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> > > >recommendations. She recommended using green drink

supplements, or

> > > >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head

to the

> > > >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

> >with

> > > >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in

some of

> > > >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too.

This

> > > >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

> >tolerate.

> > > >

> > > >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure

don't

> > > >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a

long

> > > >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they

whipped us

> > > >in and out quickly.

> > > >

> > > >Thanks again for all the help.

> > > >

> > > >Shirley

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

You're welcome. Let me know what you find out because the last time I

tried to verify that rumor, I had no luck online.

> > > i'm still trying to make my surgery decision and i'm trying to

> >gather all

> > > the info i can. can the tube in your throat during surgery be a

> >risk for

> > > pretty much any surgery? also, if anyone has pictures of

> >upper/lower/genio

> > > advancement surgery, please let me know. thanks,

> > > alex

> > >

> > > >From: " bizegrammatx " <bizegrammatx@y...>

> > > >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> > > >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> > > >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] L LeFort1,

BSSO,

> >and Genio.

> > > >Advancement for Sleep Apnea

> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:22:26 -0000

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hi ,

> > > >

> > > >Thanks for the info on turbinectomies. I'll definitely

discuss it

> > > >with the surgeons and may want to postpone it. It sounds like

if

> > > >anything should be done it would be a partial inferior

> > > >turbinectomy. I would like to able to breath some through my

nose

> > > >after surgery, and it sounds like if they do the surgery I

might

> >not

> > > >be able to do that.

> > > >

> > > >Yesterday I consulted with the dietician at our wellness center

> > > >(local hospital has operates it). She recommended I start

zinc, up

> > > >my calcium, and vitamin C (time release) and continue after

> > > >surgery. My big concern has been getting enough nutrients and

food

> > > >during my recovery, since I can't use milk because of the

lactose

> > > >intolerance. I also have some absorption problems. I wanted

to

> > > >know what was the minimum calories and protein I should be

taking

> > > >in. So I'm working on a meals list for 1st week after surgery.

> >She

> > > >said to fax it to her and she'll take a look and make any

> > > >recommendations. She recommended using green drink

supplements, or

> > > >protein powder and some digestive enzymes. Friday I'll head

to the

> > > >health food store. I thought I'd try adapting some the recipes

> >with

> > > >rice milk and additives. Also I'll try using the Boost in

some of

> > > >them. And if I can locate some tofu, I might try that, too.

This

> > > >way before surgery I will know what tastes good, and I can

> >tolerate.

> > > >

> > > >Today I drove about 70 miles just to get a flu shot. I sure

don't

> > > >want the flu before or after surgery. Actually I expected a

long

> > > >line, but it wasn't too bad. Checked in early and they

whipped us

> > > >in and out quickly.

> > > >

> > > >Thanks again for all the help.

> > > >

> > > >Shirley

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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