Re: Multiple jaw fractures, broken nose, orbital cheek etc.

[Guest guest]

Fred,

I've never been through anything like what you're going through, so

all I have to offer is my sympathy. That sucks! I was in New York this

summer for the first time in my life and while riding in a cab, I

thought, " How do people stay safe without seatbelts in this crazy

traffic?! " I guess they don't always, huh? I also, while in an NYC

crosswalk, narrowly avoided getting hit by an SUV that ran a red

light. Luckily I saw that the guy wasn't paying attention.

Hang in there,

Luna

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

Fred,

I've never been through anything like what you're going through, so

all I have to offer is my sympathy. That sucks! I was in New York this

summer for the first time in my life and while riding in a cab, I

thought, " How do people stay safe without seatbelts in this crazy

traffic?! " I guess they don't always, huh? I also, while in an NYC

crosswalk, narrowly avoided getting hit by an SUV that ran a red

light. Luckily I saw that the guy wasn't paying attention.

Hang in there,

Luna

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

My god fred, I have thought for years rther be in a subaway....those

cab drvrs are crazy.......was it a medallion that you can sue?

HOPE SO FOR YOUR SAKE..sorry hit caps...

I feel for you...its' hard going through any of this andyou didn't

choose to...I had an accident in college and brk my jaw in 2 places

lower, broke several teeth on the left side, bit through my toughe

on the rt side and ripped open my chin...it was a fall....all alone

and lame, but painful and unreal.

all I can say is try and come to terms and accept the situation as

quickly and as best you can, sounds crazy I know but you;re here

now, yes very unfortunately, but you will have less pain if you're

not always feeling tense in the face...I was so pised and upset,

being yanked out of school, risking another term, having pain while

my friends were out having tons of fun...I wqas miserable, until I

decided, know what this does suck, but here I am and I am going to

live damn it. " I get knocked down but I get up again , ain't ever

gonna keep me down " cheesey for sure, but true

hang in tehe and let us know how you're doing...we're all here for

you!

JO

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

My god fred, I have thought for years rther be in a subaway....those

cab drvrs are crazy.......was it a medallion that you can sue?

HOPE SO FOR YOUR SAKE..sorry hit caps...

I feel for you...its' hard going through any of this andyou didn't

choose to...I had an accident in college and brk my jaw in 2 places

lower, broke several teeth on the left side, bit through my toughe

on the rt side and ripped open my chin...it was a fall....all alone

and lame, but painful and unreal.

all I can say is try and come to terms and accept the situation as

quickly and as best you can, sounds crazy I know but you;re here

now, yes very unfortunately, but you will have less pain if you're

not always feeling tense in the face...I was so pised and upset,

being yanked out of school, risking another term, having pain while

my friends were out having tons of fun...I wqas miserable, until I

decided, know what this does suck, but here I am and I am going to

live damn it. " I get knocked down but I get up again , ain't ever

gonna keep me down " cheesey for sure, but true

hang in tehe and let us know how you're doing...we're all here for

you!

JO

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

Ohhhh, OWWWWW! You have so much bigger troubles than most of us here

do, and I'm so sorry.

Those accidental breaks, I think, are way tougher than the calculated

cuts our docs design.

Titanium plates, all by themselves, aren't bad. Tooth loss is. Are

you confident in the docs who put you back together? I hope so! They

really can work miracles, but it's sooo hard when this stuff happens

in a freaky way.

How can we help you?

The zippies (ZipNSqueeze) may make you more comfy in all this. Are

you wired shut? I adored the jaw wraps, didn't need the bags, but I

wasn't wired, or tightly closed, shut. Tell us more of what exactly

is troubling you, and perhaps someone will know how to help... That

folks don't see what's going on isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots

of people who have the surgery want to keep it a secret. I didn't,

and I honestly don't think it matters what others know, except for

those who may be running your life, as in bosses, those who authorise

sick time, etc.

Cammie

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

Ohhhh, OWWWWW! You have so much bigger troubles than most of us here

do, and I'm so sorry.

Those accidental breaks, I think, are way tougher than the calculated

cuts our docs design.

Titanium plates, all by themselves, aren't bad. Tooth loss is. Are

you confident in the docs who put you back together? I hope so! They

really can work miracles, but it's sooo hard when this stuff happens

in a freaky way.

How can we help you?

The zippies (ZipNSqueeze) may make you more comfy in all this. Are

you wired shut? I adored the jaw wraps, didn't need the bags, but I

wasn't wired, or tightly closed, shut. Tell us more of what exactly

is troubling you, and perhaps someone will know how to help... That

folks don't see what's going on isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots

of people who have the surgery want to keep it a secret. I didn't,

and I honestly don't think it matters what others know, except for

those who may be running your life, as in bosses, those who authorise

sick time, etc.

Cammie

> Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident while

> riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my jaw

> and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of my

> right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

>

> I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with four

> titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

>

> Just looking for some support.

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Fred

[Guest guest]

I don't know I think its all putting it in perspective, from my

observation of several sites and groups on this particular surgery

people fail to do that and its at times laughable.

I would be upset if I was in your position because it was all

unplanned. For me I have been deal with this since I was 12--thats

nearing 10 years now! First I went to a bad ortoho--twice--then the

one I am with now and on thursday I will have upper and probably

lower jaw surgery as well as the extraction of tooth number ten.

(thanks to the first two treatments I have lost a lot of root) Thus

far I have had two teeth impants, wisdom teeth, baby teeth extracted--

at the site of the impants, a um graft and upper and lower

Fernectumy. when all is is said and done I wil have all of that plus

the upper and probably lower jaw sugery and the extraction of my

three front teeth all within this year then three more implants and a

ridge for my front two teeth. I am 21 now and this is not the worst

thing I have had to deal with and I am sure there will be worse to

deal with. For some people maybe this is the worst thing they have

gone through so they arn't strong and thats why the devote all their

time and energy to this and make into a bigger thing then it needs to

be.

I don't choose to get upset about it. mind over matter. I have

traveled and lived in Ghana Thailand and Paraguay all within the past

four year. I consider myself extremely lucky to be able to have not

only the medical technology for all of this to take place, but also

the finacial scources and emotional maturity to deal with it and to

be able to afford the best care available to me. I have a dental

team of the best of the best in this area. so what is there to

complain about?

as far as the screws and what not--you don't notice them the majority

of the time, I don't feel my implants anymore then I feel m natrual

teeth so thats nothing to worry about. as far as numbness, I had

that on my chin after one of the implant surgeries and it went away

within a year. as far as food---hell your lucky if you can have

food, think of all the people who are starving on this world, who are

we to complain about having to eat a restricted diet? for me those

starving people are a reality not just something I see on the news.

as far as pain---well yeah its some pain and discomfort and

inconvience for a while. but your ALIVE! and when you are 98 years

old this won't be something you will look back on. well hopefully

not, for some people they seem to let this take over their whole life

but thats their choice. and as far a year left--well I have been

doing this for ten years and have 2-3 years left so 1 year and I am

stillalive and well so 1 year isn't that much time.

and as far as people not knowing about the damage--I can not tell you

how many times people have just asked why I don't get dentures? To

which I explain all about Jaw position and it doesn't matter how

straight your teeth look there is much much more to the issue. and

as far as not knowing if you will be the same--well thats your choice

mentally speaking, if you mean in terms of how you look or how you

smile, well thats a little bit more out of your control. There are

people who are born with severe birth deffects that can not be fixed

with surgery so again its all in persepctive.

I have a friend who dissapered in Ecuador--he is presumed to be dead--

at the age of 21, for me I have seen that life can end and be much

more tragic then having to have a couple oral surgeries and that

being alive at this point in life is the greatest gift one can ask

for and yeah life does get sukcy at times but you know what you wake

up the next day and you along have the power to make it a tiney bit

better and soon you are through the trial and life moves on.

Anyway thats just my whole perspective on it baiscally I think if you

think postive and turn your thoughts around to realize how lucky you

are to have this possiability of surgery available to you and to

realize you are alive and not dead to relaize this is nor Aids or

Cancer or brain surgery or heart surgery or liver transplant or all

of those life threatning truley scary things, you can start to turn

your feelings around alot. Basically its all in how you look at it

and what you want to make of it, as is with any sitution.

Its life and you have to take the bad with the good and move on.

Anyway so just have Faith that this will be over in a realtivly short

time frame and that you can put it into persepctive and you can deal

with it maturaly and be strong and you will be just fine. What

doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

so hang in there and good luck healing and what not.

liz

>

> > Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> > riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my

jaw

> > and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> > right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

> week

> > and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

> >

> > I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

> face

> > and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> > open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

> and I

> > am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

> close

> > to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

> have

> > half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> > titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

> >

> > Just looking for some support.

> >

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fred

[Guest guest]

I don't know I think its all putting it in perspective, from my

observation of several sites and groups on this particular surgery

people fail to do that and its at times laughable.

I would be upset if I was in your position because it was all

unplanned. For me I have been deal with this since I was 12--thats

nearing 10 years now! First I went to a bad ortoho--twice--then the

one I am with now and on thursday I will have upper and probably

lower jaw surgery as well as the extraction of tooth number ten.

(thanks to the first two treatments I have lost a lot of root) Thus

far I have had two teeth impants, wisdom teeth, baby teeth extracted--

at the site of the impants, a um graft and upper and lower

Fernectumy. when all is is said and done I wil have all of that plus

the upper and probably lower jaw sugery and the extraction of my

three front teeth all within this year then three more implants and a

ridge for my front two teeth. I am 21 now and this is not the worst

thing I have had to deal with and I am sure there will be worse to

deal with. For some people maybe this is the worst thing they have

gone through so they arn't strong and thats why the devote all their

time and energy to this and make into a bigger thing then it needs to

be.

I don't choose to get upset about it. mind over matter. I have

traveled and lived in Ghana Thailand and Paraguay all within the past

four year. I consider myself extremely lucky to be able to have not

only the medical technology for all of this to take place, but also

the finacial scources and emotional maturity to deal with it and to

be able to afford the best care available to me. I have a dental

team of the best of the best in this area. so what is there to

complain about?

as far as the screws and what not--you don't notice them the majority

of the time, I don't feel my implants anymore then I feel m natrual

teeth so thats nothing to worry about. as far as numbness, I had

that on my chin after one of the implant surgeries and it went away

within a year. as far as food---hell your lucky if you can have

food, think of all the people who are starving on this world, who are

we to complain about having to eat a restricted diet? for me those

starving people are a reality not just something I see on the news.

as far as pain---well yeah its some pain and discomfort and

inconvience for a while. but your ALIVE! and when you are 98 years

old this won't be something you will look back on. well hopefully

not, for some people they seem to let this take over their whole life

but thats their choice. and as far a year left--well I have been

doing this for ten years and have 2-3 years left so 1 year and I am

stillalive and well so 1 year isn't that much time.

and as far as people not knowing about the damage--I can not tell you

how many times people have just asked why I don't get dentures? To

which I explain all about Jaw position and it doesn't matter how

straight your teeth look there is much much more to the issue. and

as far as not knowing if you will be the same--well thats your choice

mentally speaking, if you mean in terms of how you look or how you

smile, well thats a little bit more out of your control. There are

people who are born with severe birth deffects that can not be fixed

with surgery so again its all in persepctive.

I have a friend who dissapered in Ecuador--he is presumed to be dead--

at the age of 21, for me I have seen that life can end and be much

more tragic then having to have a couple oral surgeries and that

being alive at this point in life is the greatest gift one can ask

for and yeah life does get sukcy at times but you know what you wake

up the next day and you along have the power to make it a tiney bit

better and soon you are through the trial and life moves on.

Anyway thats just my whole perspective on it baiscally I think if you

think postive and turn your thoughts around to realize how lucky you

are to have this possiability of surgery available to you and to

realize you are alive and not dead to relaize this is nor Aids or

Cancer or brain surgery or heart surgery or liver transplant or all

of those life threatning truley scary things, you can start to turn

your feelings around alot. Basically its all in how you look at it

and what you want to make of it, as is with any sitution.

Its life and you have to take the bad with the good and move on.

Anyway so just have Faith that this will be over in a realtivly short

time frame and that you can put it into persepctive and you can deal

with it maturaly and be strong and you will be just fine. What

doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

so hang in there and good luck healing and what not.

liz

>

> > Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> > riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my

jaw

> > and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> > right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

> week

> > and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

> >

> > I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

> face

> > and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> > open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

> and I

> > am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

> close

> > to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

> have

> > half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> > titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

> >

> > Just looking for some support.

> >

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fred

[Guest guest]

Hi Fred,

Those darn cabbies! An acquaintance of mine was in a taxi accident in

NY last year-ended up with facial breaks, broken arm and shoulder

break! Makes one want to never get into a cab again!

I had upper and lower jaw surgery almost 3 weeks ago. Currently I

have 4 titanium plates and 27 screws holding my head together-My

friend's are referring to me Humpty Dumpty, but I got put back

together! :0)I know the post-op can be really difficult and

frustrating and some days can be depressing, but I find each day a

little better-I realize you are going through much more than me, but

hang in there and keep looking ahead-the surgeeries will be done and

you on the road to recovery. With all the things dentists can do

nowadays, you can have those teeth replaced once you've healed, I'm

sure-My best friend got a front tooth knocked out in an accident and

you can't even tell she had a falsie put in there. As long as you

have good dentistry professionals, you'll be fine. (Oh, btw, I have a

partial smile too! )

You take care!

Connie

> > Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> > riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my

jaw

> > and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> > right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> > and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

> >

> > I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> > and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> > open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> > am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> > to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> > half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> > titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

> >

> > Just looking for some support.

> >

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fred

[Guest guest]

Hi Fred,

Those darn cabbies! An acquaintance of mine was in a taxi accident in

NY last year-ended up with facial breaks, broken arm and shoulder

break! Makes one want to never get into a cab again!

I had upper and lower jaw surgery almost 3 weeks ago. Currently I

have 4 titanium plates and 27 screws holding my head together-My

friend's are referring to me Humpty Dumpty, but I got put back

together! :0)I know the post-op can be really difficult and

frustrating and some days can be depressing, but I find each day a

little better-I realize you are going through much more than me, but

hang in there and keep looking ahead-the surgeeries will be done and

you on the road to recovery. With all the things dentists can do

nowadays, you can have those teeth replaced once you've healed, I'm

sure-My best friend got a front tooth knocked out in an accident and

you can't even tell she had a falsie put in there. As long as you

have good dentistry professionals, you'll be fine. (Oh, btw, I have a

partial smile too! )

You take care!

Connie

> > Hi-- I live in New York and six weeks ago got into an accident

while

> > riding in a taxi. I had two surgeries so far just to repair my

jaw

> > and upper but life still sucks. I am missing 3 teeth and most of

my

> > right upper teeth are seriously damaged. I have to go back next

week

> > and havae two more lower teeth pulled.

> >

> > I get frustrated because most of my damage is inside my mouth and

face

> > and at this point people really cannot tell how bad it is unless I

> > open my mouth, still they only can see the tooth damage. I hurt

and I

> > am sick and tired of this...It will be a year before all this is

close

> > to being fixed and I dont know if I will ever be the same. I only

have

> > half a smile because of nerve/muscle damage and I'm stuck with

four

> > titanium plates in my face for the rest of my life.

> >

> > Just looking for some support.

> >

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Fred