Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I blame those * & ^%* & ** hormones. I think they physically make us bloat up then make us " feel " fat too. Women can't win, you know? I wonder, do men feel like this, ever? A fellow wls'er and myself were discussing something around this issue, like the fact that no matter much we lose, the " fat " woman is always there in our brain/psyche. I don't spend hours looking in the mirror mind you, but when I do, I look at my apron of skin, my batwings and of course the chest, don't get me started. I don't get depressed, but I start thinking about having plastic surgery so when I am actually going to start dating I won't be so self-concious when/if I allow a man to see me in flagrante, (sorry for all who might be offended.) Look I am not some hoochie, ha ha, but I don't want to be one of those types that tells my husband he can never see me naked. I think the thing we all have to overcome, and maybe it's harder for a single, unattached female, I don't know. But, I want to try to not see the saggy, baggy skin as grotesque, which the " world " full of beautiful, superficial and buff people would. It was hard enough being fat, now I have to worry about a guy being turned off when he sees me? She did make a good point to me, WE care more about these issues than men/SOs do, so we should try and see ourselves as they see us. I have to say, since I don't have a SO, it is scary for me @ 33 yrs old to think about venturing out and dating again. The dry spell has been long. I guess these may be issues far too complex to talk about with all of you, and maybe it veers off the original topic, but this is where the thought process took me. Hope you all don't mind the ride! > > > .....I now know why thin people used to tell me that they feel fat. > > > I can definitely relate to this. I am now starting to feel fat after > having gained 2 lbs. > > > **I see this thread is still going so I have to assume that our grad list is > a safe place for such discussions. I can't tell you how happy that makes me, > that we can support each other here. I hope none of the ladies who posted > about their 2, 4 or 7lb gains were flamed privately, publicly or had to > endure hate mail. > I say this only because on another list [which will remain nameless] a > similar topic came up. I expressed that I struggle with the same 7# > constantly - I am such a yo yo with those same pounds and it is very > frustrating for me. well did I ever get the hate mail! how dare I complain > about just 7 # when others were fighting battles of 20, 40, 80# gains. I > will only tell you that the flaming went on and on and that list is not a > safe place in my opinion. some of the same people are here - I know that - > so I hope those that spoke the words and continued the thread will not > flamed. > sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I blame those * & ^%* & ** hormones. I think they physically make us bloat up then make us " feel " fat too. Women can't win, you know? I wonder, do men feel like this, ever? A fellow wls'er and myself were discussing something around this issue, like the fact that no matter much we lose, the " fat " woman is always there in our brain/psyche. I don't spend hours looking in the mirror mind you, but when I do, I look at my apron of skin, my batwings and of course the chest, don't get me started. I don't get depressed, but I start thinking about having plastic surgery so when I am actually going to start dating I won't be so self-concious when/if I allow a man to see me in flagrante, (sorry for all who might be offended.) Look I am not some hoochie, ha ha, but I don't want to be one of those types that tells my husband he can never see me naked. I think the thing we all have to overcome, and maybe it's harder for a single, unattached female, I don't know. But, I want to try to not see the saggy, baggy skin as grotesque, which the " world " full of beautiful, superficial and buff people would. It was hard enough being fat, now I have to worry about a guy being turned off when he sees me? She did make a good point to me, WE care more about these issues than men/SOs do, so we should try and see ourselves as they see us. I have to say, since I don't have a SO, it is scary for me @ 33 yrs old to think about venturing out and dating again. The dry spell has been long. I guess these may be issues far too complex to talk about with all of you, and maybe it veers off the original topic, but this is where the thought process took me. Hope you all don't mind the ride! > > > .....I now know why thin people used to tell me that they feel fat. > > > I can definitely relate to this. I am now starting to feel fat after > having gained 2 lbs. > > > **I see this thread is still going so I have to assume that our grad list is > a safe place for such discussions. I can't tell you how happy that makes me, > that we can support each other here. I hope none of the ladies who posted > about their 2, 4 or 7lb gains were flamed privately, publicly or had to > endure hate mail. > I say this only because on another list [which will remain nameless] a > similar topic came up. I expressed that I struggle with the same 7# > constantly - I am such a yo yo with those same pounds and it is very > frustrating for me. well did I ever get the hate mail! how dare I complain > about just 7 # when others were fighting battles of 20, 40, 80# gains. I > will only tell you that the flaming went on and on and that list is not a > safe place in my opinion. some of the same people are here - I know that - > so I hope those that spoke the words and continued the thread will not > flamed. > sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 In a message dated 4/9/2003 10:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, diana_11_6@... writes: > I guess these may be issues far too complex to talk about with all of you, > and > maybe it veers off the original topic, but this is where the thought > process took > me. Hope you all don't mind the ride! > Not too complex and very on topic. Fay Bayuk **300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 In a message dated 4/9/2003 10:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, diana_11_6@... writes: > I guess these may be issues far too complex to talk about with all of you, > and > maybe it veers off the original topic, but this is where the thought > process took > me. Hope you all don't mind the ride! > Not too complex and very on topic. Fay Bayuk **300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Boy do I empathize with that! Sometimes when people tell me how great I look, I have to bite my tongue to keep from saying " yeah but you haven't really seen all of me. " Sometimes I feel like I'm a fraud and that if people had any idea what my thighs and legs looked like (hanging skin, huge varicose veins made more visible by lack of fat), they would be really made at me from trying to " pull off a sneaky one. " I have a very flat tummy, but I have lots of ugly scars from the TT. I sometimes feel I should wear a sign on my forehead that says: " Disclaimer. I may look thin, but don't be fooled, I look awful naked. I am not responsible for any shock or disappointment that you may suffer because of this! " BarbaraJean distal from 300 to 128 ----- Original Message ----- Don't worry -- people talk about this stuff all the time. Everyone has the same anxieties. It feels crazy, since you look great on the " outside " and everyone is telling you so. But then you get undressed and feel awful all over again. I've had some plastics, but my thighs are still very flabby and the skin is very loose. I was at the pool and saw a heavy woman with beautiful skin. For a minute, I envied her that smooth, almost childlike (i.e., full of fat) skin. Then I woke up to remember what I have gained with all of this. But for a moment there I was ready to trade it all for one smooth, fat thigh. I am so weird. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Boy do I empathize with that! Sometimes when people tell me how great I look, I have to bite my tongue to keep from saying " yeah but you haven't really seen all of me. " Sometimes I feel like I'm a fraud and that if people had any idea what my thighs and legs looked like (hanging skin, huge varicose veins made more visible by lack of fat), they would be really made at me from trying to " pull off a sneaky one. " I have a very flat tummy, but I have lots of ugly scars from the TT. I sometimes feel I should wear a sign on my forehead that says: " Disclaimer. I may look thin, but don't be fooled, I look awful naked. I am not responsible for any shock or disappointment that you may suffer because of this! " BarbaraJean distal from 300 to 128 ----- Original Message ----- Don't worry -- people talk about this stuff all the time. Everyone has the same anxieties. It feels crazy, since you look great on the " outside " and everyone is telling you so. But then you get undressed and feel awful all over again. I've had some plastics, but my thighs are still very flabby and the skin is very loose. I was at the pool and saw a heavy woman with beautiful skin. For a minute, I envied her that smooth, almost childlike (i.e., full of fat) skin. Then I woke up to remember what I have gained with all of this. But for a moment there I was ready to trade it all for one smooth, fat thigh. I am so weird. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 No, you're not...or maybe I am too. LOL But, I know exactly what you mean. I don't intend to buy a bathing suit until I have my breast reduction, but I was in the store the other day, and had to try some on. With 36DD long boobs, the ones that fit the body don't fit on top, but that aside...after my abdominoplasty, I realized how bad my thighs actually are. I don't think I will have the thighs done, so I may not ever again wear a traditional bathing suit, but maybe shorts. On the other hand, I'm pushing 51 yrs. old, and the older you get, the less you really care what people think, so who knows. in NJ ****************** > > > I was at the pool and saw a heavy woman with beautiful skin. For > a minute, I envied her that smooth, almost childlike (i.e., full of fat) skin. Then I woke up to remember what I have gained with all of this. But for a moment there I was ready to trade it all for one smooth, fat thigh. > > I am so weird. > > hugs, > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 No, you're not...or maybe I am too. LOL But, I know exactly what you mean. I don't intend to buy a bathing suit until I have my breast reduction, but I was in the store the other day, and had to try some on. With 36DD long boobs, the ones that fit the body don't fit on top, but that aside...after my abdominoplasty, I realized how bad my thighs actually are. I don't think I will have the thighs done, so I may not ever again wear a traditional bathing suit, but maybe shorts. On the other hand, I'm pushing 51 yrs. old, and the older you get, the less you really care what people think, so who knows. in NJ ****************** > > > I was at the pool and saw a heavy woman with beautiful skin. For > a minute, I envied her that smooth, almost childlike (i.e., full of fat) skin. Then I woke up to remember what I have gained with all of this. But for a moment there I was ready to trade it all for one smooth, fat thigh. > > I am so weird. > > hugs, > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 In a message dated 4/10/2003 5:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, watnext writes: I don't think I will have the thighs > done, so I may not ever again wear a traditional bathing suit, but > maybe shorts. On the other hand, I'm pushing 51 yrs. old, and the > older you get, the less you really care what people think, so who > knows. Pushing 51??? Hm! A baby! (I'm 53...) I wear a bikini (I figure maybe everyone will look at my plastics-restored boobs and belly instead of my thighs) but won't wear short shorts. I wear boys' knee-length Tommy Hilfiger shorts that I bought 5 years ago for my son when he was in the 3rd grade! I have 3 pairs that I rescued from the Goodwill bag two years ago. I don't know what I'll do when they wear out! I tell him that if I'd known I'd inherit them I'd have bought him better stuff. LOL. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 In a message dated 4/10/2003 5:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, watnext writes: I don't think I will have the thighs > done, so I may not ever again wear a traditional bathing suit, but > maybe shorts. On the other hand, I'm pushing 51 yrs. old, and the > older you get, the less you really care what people think, so who > knows. Pushing 51??? Hm! A baby! (I'm 53...) I wear a bikini (I figure maybe everyone will look at my plastics-restored boobs and belly instead of my thighs) but won't wear short shorts. I wear boys' knee-length Tommy Hilfiger shorts that I bought 5 years ago for my son when he was in the 3rd grade! I have 3 pairs that I rescued from the Goodwill bag two years ago. I don't know what I'll do when they wear out! I tell him that if I'd known I'd inherit them I'd have bought him better stuff. LOL. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 > In a message dated 4/10/2003 5:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, watnext writes: > I don't think I will have the thighs > > done,> Pushing 51??? Hm! A baby! (I'm 53...)> I wear a bikini (I figure maybe everyone will look at my plastics-restored boobs and belly instead of my thighs) _______________________________________________________________ I am right there with you Ann-I will be 52 this year, I wear bikini's-as a matter of fact I have 15 bikini's-I own a condo in Maui and go the beach and pool every day while there-my sweet hubby tells me that no one is looking at my legs, they are too busy looking at my boobs and flat tummy! Bottom line, I don't give a damn what people think-I have gone through much and spent a fortune on this body and I am damn proud of myself-now my thighs look like the thigs of an 80 year old and I had a thigh lift-lots of pain and agony for very little if any improvement-they looked great for about 2 months until all the swelling went away and the skin started hanging again, but the rest of me looks great! So to hell with age, it is all about how you feel-ladies (and gents) get out there and strut your stuff-it is your attitude that will turn heads! If you think you are hot-you will be! Hugs EJ Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 > In a message dated 4/10/2003 5:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, watnext writes: > I don't think I will have the thighs > > done,> Pushing 51??? Hm! A baby! (I'm 53...)> I wear a bikini (I figure maybe everyone will look at my plastics-restored boobs and belly instead of my thighs) _______________________________________________________________ I am right there with you Ann-I will be 52 this year, I wear bikini's-as a matter of fact I have 15 bikini's-I own a condo in Maui and go the beach and pool every day while there-my sweet hubby tells me that no one is looking at my legs, they are too busy looking at my boobs and flat tummy! Bottom line, I don't give a damn what people think-I have gone through much and spent a fortune on this body and I am damn proud of myself-now my thighs look like the thigs of an 80 year old and I had a thigh lift-lots of pain and agony for very little if any improvement-they looked great for about 2 months until all the swelling went away and the skin started hanging again, but the rest of me looks great! So to hell with age, it is all about how you feel-ladies (and gents) get out there and strut your stuff-it is your attitude that will turn heads! If you think you are hot-you will be! Hugs EJ Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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