Re: Palate widening: what techniques exist??

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It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I had

it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

(starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month, your

orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place. You'll

be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit of

a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it in

for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery during

your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible to

have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully expanded,

do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

Nathalie

>

> Hi there! I'm not entirely new to this site - have posted a few

> times before but not recently. I'm English but I live in France

and

> am having upper, lower and genioplasty on 1 February. I saw my

> orthodontist last Friday and she made it sound like I'm having my

> palate widened too but she didn't explain. She put some metal

rings

> around my upper molars, made a mould of my upper jaw, then took

the

> metal rings off. I'm going back in 10 days for, as far as I

> understood, to have these ring things fitted. The moulds are being

> sent away for whatever it is I'm having put in my mouth to be

made.

> Does anyone have any ideas what this is?? I've only heard of

SARPE.

> From what I gather, the bit of apparatus that is getting made for

me

> will be fitted during my jaw surgery. If it's SARPE, it sounds

like

> a hell of a lot to go through all in one go, no? (The surgeon's

also

> taking my lower wisdom teeth out!).

>

> Any views would be much appreciated!

>

> Thanks a lot!

>

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I had

it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

(starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month, your

orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place. You'll

be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit of

a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it in

for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery during

your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible to

have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully expanded,

do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

Nathalie

>

> Hi there! I'm not entirely new to this site - have posted a few

> times before but not recently. I'm English but I live in France

and

> am having upper, lower and genioplasty on 1 February. I saw my

> orthodontist last Friday and she made it sound like I'm having my

> palate widened too but she didn't explain. She put some metal

rings

> around my upper molars, made a mould of my upper jaw, then took

the

> metal rings off. I'm going back in 10 days for, as far as I

> understood, to have these ring things fitted. The moulds are being

> sent away for whatever it is I'm having put in my mouth to be

made.

> Does anyone have any ideas what this is?? I've only heard of

SARPE.

> From what I gather, the bit of apparatus that is getting made for

me

> will be fitted during my jaw surgery. If it's SARPE, it sounds

like

> a hell of a lot to go through all in one go, no? (The surgeon's

also

> taking my lower wisdom teeth out!).

>

> Any views would be much appreciated!

>

> Thanks a lot!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply Nathalie. Yep, certainly sounds like that's

what I'm getting. Eeeek! There has been no mention of a second

surgery though so I guess that means the surgeon will do that at the

same time as the rest (I might as well ask for my appendix out at

the same time the rate I'm going - upper,lower, genio, wisdom teeth

and now SARPE too!).

Do you think my orthodontist will fit the actual expander when I go

to see her in a fortnight? My surgery is not until 1 February but I

know I'm going back because of this palate expansion business.

Does it hurt when you have the expander fitted and when you turn the

key?? And can you feel the expander with your tongue? There's going

to be no room left in my mouth!

Thanks for your help!!

>

> It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

> device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I

had

> it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

> some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

> expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

> (starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

> big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month,

your

> orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place.

You'll

> be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit

of

> a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it

in

> for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

> you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery

during

> your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

> together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible

to

> have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully

expanded,

> do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

>

> Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

> expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

> think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

>

> Nathalie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply Nathalie. Yep, certainly sounds like that's

what I'm getting. Eeeek! There has been no mention of a second

surgery though so I guess that means the surgeon will do that at the

same time as the rest (I might as well ask for my appendix out at

the same time the rate I'm going - upper,lower, genio, wisdom teeth

and now SARPE too!).

Do you think my orthodontist will fit the actual expander when I go

to see her in a fortnight? My surgery is not until 1 February but I

know I'm going back because of this palate expansion business.

Does it hurt when you have the expander fitted and when you turn the

key?? And can you feel the expander with your tongue? There's going

to be no room left in my mouth!

Thanks for your help!!

>

> It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

> device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I

had

> it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

> some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

> expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

> (starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

> big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month,

your

> orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place.

You'll

> be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit

of

> a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it

in

> for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

> you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery

during

> your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

> together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible

to

> have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully

expanded,

> do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

>

> Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

> expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

> think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

>

> Nathalie

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

You know,I had one of those things about two years ago. It was on the roof of

my mouth and I had to turn it about a quarter turn each day with a key. But it

didn't work. But I didn't have any cuts in my mouth either. Hmmmmm....I told

the OS about it and he said that those don't work for people my age (43)

Hmmmm....but then again, like I said, I didn't have cuts in my mouth. I guess

each case is different, huh? Don't want you to think that I am being negative

and that yours wouldn't work.... Kind of weird..... (oh yeah, I had upper,

lower, and a genioplasty on Oct 26)

Shauna

>

>

> Date: 2004/11/29 Mon PM 09:42:17 GMT

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> Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: Palate widening: what

techniques exist??

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

You know,I had one of those things about two years ago. It was on the roof of

my mouth and I had to turn it about a quarter turn each day with a key. But it

didn't work. But I didn't have any cuts in my mouth either. Hmmmmm....I told

the OS about it and he said that those don't work for people my age (43)

Hmmmm....but then again, like I said, I didn't have cuts in my mouth. I guess

each case is different, huh? Don't want you to think that I am being negative

and that yours wouldn't work.... Kind of weird..... (oh yeah, I had upper,

lower, and a genioplasty on Oct 26)

Shauna

>

>

> Date: 2004/11/29 Mon PM 09:42:17 GMT

> To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

> Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: Palate widening: what

techniques exist??

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ha, I would do the appendix another time! Also, fyi if you're

reconsidering a rhino, I'd not think about a nose job during this

surgery, since your nose will get a bit wider because of the expansion

of the pallate. So you'd really have to see first if you like the end

result after all the turning of the key, if you would decide on a nose

job!

It doesn't hurt to have the expander fitted. You can definately feel

it with your tongue, it's probably going to hurt your tongue for a

while. Ask your ortho for that numbing gel, that helped me, and wax

also. It's going to feel like there's no room left in the beginning,

and you're going to hear it in your speech, but you will get used to it.

By the way, if you're doing the SARPE together with the rest, I don't

think you'll also have a separate upper (where they cut it

horizontally). If so, you'd probably get a 3 piece leforte instead of

a SARPE. With the leforte, they can cut your upper jaw in 3 seperate

pieces, which would mean you wouldn't need an expansion with the

SARPE, because they can reposition the 3 pieces back wider (I'm not

sure about this though! so please ask your doc!). Please check with

your doc what your procedure will be for your upper jaw to be

absolutely sure and check why he wants to do things a certain way, so

you'll know what's the reason.

Nathalie

> >

> > It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

> > device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I

> had

> > it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

> > some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

> > expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

> > (starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

> > big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month,

> your

> > orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place.

> You'll

> > be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit

> of

> > a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it

> in

> > for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

> > you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery

> during

> > your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

> > together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible

> to

> > have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully

> expanded,

> > do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

> >

> > Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

> > expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

> > think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

> >

> > Nathalie

[Guest guest]

Ha, I would do the appendix another time! Also, fyi if you're

reconsidering a rhino, I'd not think about a nose job during this

surgery, since your nose will get a bit wider because of the expansion

of the pallate. So you'd really have to see first if you like the end

result after all the turning of the key, if you would decide on a nose

job!

It doesn't hurt to have the expander fitted. You can definately feel

it with your tongue, it's probably going to hurt your tongue for a

while. Ask your ortho for that numbing gel, that helped me, and wax

also. It's going to feel like there's no room left in the beginning,

and you're going to hear it in your speech, but you will get used to it.

By the way, if you're doing the SARPE together with the rest, I don't

think you'll also have a separate upper (where they cut it

horizontally). If so, you'd probably get a 3 piece leforte instead of

a SARPE. With the leforte, they can cut your upper jaw in 3 seperate

pieces, which would mean you wouldn't need an expansion with the

SARPE, because they can reposition the 3 pieces back wider (I'm not

sure about this though! so please ask your doc!). Please check with

your doc what your procedure will be for your upper jaw to be

absolutely sure and check why he wants to do things a certain way, so

you'll know what's the reason.

Nathalie

> >

> > It sounds like you're getting a pallate expander. It's a metal

> > device that is attached with those metal bands on your molars. I

> had

> > it too. I got the expander in, then had the SARPE where they made

> > some small cuts in my gums in order to be able to activate the

> > expander. After that, we had to turn the key for one more week

> > (starting about one wk after SARPE surgery). You will get a pretty

> > big gap between your 2 front teeth. After about after a month,

> your

> > orthontist will start putting the teeth back in their place.

> You'll

> > be surprised how quickly the gap will close. The expander's a bit

> of

> > a hassle for the first weeks, but you do get used to it. I had it

> in

> > for 3 months. You should ask your orthodontist the specifics, are

> > you getting the expander in so that they will do the surgery

> during

> > your lower and genio? That's what they did with me (everything

> > together: SARPE, lower advancement and genio). It's also possible

> to

> > have the expansion first, and then after you've been fully

> expanded,

> > do the lower and genio in a seperate surgery.

> >

> > Any other questions, let me know. If you want to see what the

> > expander looks like, you could google it or look under site 2, i

> > think in the files/links you can find some pictures.

> >

> > Nathalie