Re: Splint-but not in surg...more like a permanent retainer???

[Guest guest]

My sister has the kind of retainer you are talking about. it's

cemented to the back of her front 6 bottom teeth. Her braces only

came off about 6 months ago, but so far she loves it. her bottom

teeth have not moved in the slightest, and her uppers have started to

try to move around (she has her last invisalign tray she uses for a

retainer on the uppers -- she had metal braces on the lowers,

interesting setup but it worked for her!) to the point that she's

wearing the upper retainer full time again to get them to stabilize.

One thing I've heard about them is that they only last about 10 years

or so before they fall off naturally, after that you need to either

have another one put on, or have a removable retainer made.

She also complained a lot about it getting in the way of talking and

flossing, but she's gotten used to it now.

My Ortho is going to give me one like that when I come out of my

braces as well.

Hope this helps!

~Jen

>

> Anyone have one or know anything?

>

> Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-since we

> had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming off

> soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to spread

> out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye tooth

> on the inside bottom and be permanent.

>

> I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want to do

> the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is yours

> as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

>

> Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are not

> so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips is

> not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was young

> and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

>

> Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

My sister has the kind of retainer you are talking about. it's

cemented to the back of her front 6 bottom teeth. Her braces only

came off about 6 months ago, but so far she loves it. her bottom

teeth have not moved in the slightest, and her uppers have started to

try to move around (she has her last invisalign tray she uses for a

retainer on the uppers -- she had metal braces on the lowers,

interesting setup but it worked for her!) to the point that she's

wearing the upper retainer full time again to get them to stabilize.

One thing I've heard about them is that they only last about 10 years

or so before they fall off naturally, after that you need to either

have another one put on, or have a removable retainer made.

She also complained a lot about it getting in the way of talking and

flossing, but she's gotten used to it now.

My Ortho is going to give me one like that when I come out of my

braces as well.

Hope this helps!

~Jen

>

> Anyone have one or know anything?

>

> Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-since we

> had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming off

> soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to spread

> out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye tooth

> on the inside bottom and be permanent.

>

> I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want to do

> the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is yours

> as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

>

> Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are not

> so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips is

> not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was young

> and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

>

> Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

yup it does...I will have retainers only at night post-braces and on

top and bottom. As to talking, before surg/even before lower braces I

had a mess of these teeth on the bottom.

Yrs ago when first set of braces were happening, they tried to expose

a lower tooth in surgery when they took out my bycuspids to allow it

to be bracketed and pulled up quicker-needless to say the gum never

grew back and then the jaw breaking accident I had in college allowed

the scare tissue and what not to let the bottom front go wild///think

zig-zag and stacked...so as to something in the way, for the first

time in YEARS I can rest my tounge flat...and THAT is a treat...so a

little interruption to the talk-stop-I will take it!

any idea about the cosemetics?

and thanks Jen, JO

> >

> > Anyone have one or know anything?

> >

> > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

since we

> > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

off

> > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

spread

> > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

tooth

> > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> >

> > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

to do

> > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

yours

> > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> >

> > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

not

> > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

is

> > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

young

> > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> >

> > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

yup it does...I will have retainers only at night post-braces and on

top and bottom. As to talking, before surg/even before lower braces I

had a mess of these teeth on the bottom.

Yrs ago when first set of braces were happening, they tried to expose

a lower tooth in surgery when they took out my bycuspids to allow it

to be bracketed and pulled up quicker-needless to say the gum never

grew back and then the jaw breaking accident I had in college allowed

the scare tissue and what not to let the bottom front go wild///think

zig-zag and stacked...so as to something in the way, for the first

time in YEARS I can rest my tounge flat...and THAT is a treat...so a

little interruption to the talk-stop-I will take it!

any idea about the cosemetics?

and thanks Jen, JO

> >

> > Anyone have one or know anything?

> >

> > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

since we

> > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

off

> > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

spread

> > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

tooth

> > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> >

> > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

to do

> > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

yours

> > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> >

> > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

not

> > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

is

> > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

young

> > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> >

> > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

I had one of those permanent lower retainers after my first go-around

with braces. I hated it because flossing was such a pain. After I'm

done with orthodontics this time, I'm going to ask for a removable

lower retainer so I won't have to deal with that again. This is just

my personal opinion--you may find that the permanent retainer works

well for you.

>

> Anyone have one or know anything?

>

> Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-since

we

> had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming off

> soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to spread

> out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

tooth

> on the inside bottom and be permanent.

>

> I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want to

do

> the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is yours

> as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

>

> Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

not

> so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips is

> not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was young

> and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

>

> Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

I had one of those permanent lower retainers after my first go-around

with braces. I hated it because flossing was such a pain. After I'm

done with orthodontics this time, I'm going to ask for a removable

lower retainer so I won't have to deal with that again. This is just

my personal opinion--you may find that the permanent retainer works

well for you.

>

> Anyone have one or know anything?

>

> Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-since

we

> had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming off

> soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to spread

> out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

tooth

> on the inside bottom and be permanent.

>

> I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want to

do

> the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is yours

> as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

>

> Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

not

> so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips is

> not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was young

> and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

>

> Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

you know as I left my apt to talk about it today I thought about just

that.....flossing. you can't huh? I mean it won't get down low right

so what do you do???

I prob have to have this bec I have wiggle and still some gum

recession...so prob more impt than floss, but I miss easy flossing so

much--this 15+ minute procedure to floss is a headache.

JO

> >

> > Anyone have one or know anything?

> >

> > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

since

> we

> > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

off

> > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

spread

> > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

> tooth

> > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> >

> > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

to

> do

> > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

yours

> > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> >

> > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

> not

> > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

is

> > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

young

> > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> >

> > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

you know as I left my apt to talk about it today I thought about just

that.....flossing. you can't huh? I mean it won't get down low right

so what do you do???

I prob have to have this bec I have wiggle and still some gum

recession...so prob more impt than floss, but I miss easy flossing so

much--this 15+ minute procedure to floss is a headache.

JO

> >

> > Anyone have one or know anything?

> >

> > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth are

> > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

since

> we

> > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

off

> > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

spread

> > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

> tooth

> > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> >

> > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

to

> do

> > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

yours

> > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> >

> > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that are

> not

> > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then another

> > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

is

> > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

young

> > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super white-

> > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> >

> > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

Same way you floss with braces, except you thread the floss behind

your teeth instead of in front. The good thing is that it attaches to

your teeth in only two places instead of every tooth, so you only

have to go through the threading motion once instead of every single

time.

> > >

> > > Anyone have one or know anything?

> > >

> > > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth

are

> > > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

> since

> > we

> > > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

> off

> > > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

> spread

> > > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

> > tooth

> > > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> > >

> > > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

> to

> > do

> > > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

> yours

> > > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> > >

> > > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that

are

> > not

> > > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then

another

> > > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

> is

> > > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

> young

> > > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super

white-

> > > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> > >

> > > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

Same way you floss with braces, except you thread the floss behind

your teeth instead of in front. The good thing is that it attaches to

your teeth in only two places instead of every tooth, so you only

have to go through the threading motion once instead of every single

time.

> > >

> > > Anyone have one or know anything?

> > >

> > > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth

are

> > > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

> since

> > we

> > > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are coming

> off

> > > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

> spread

> > > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite eye

> > tooth

> > > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> > >

> > > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I want

> to

> > do

> > > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

> yours

> > > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> > >

> > > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that

are

> > not

> > > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then

another

> > > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white strips

> is

> > > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

> young

> > > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super

white-

> > > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> > >

> > > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that makes a lot of sense and sounds better than it

could have!

I will let you know. Perio said the regular DDS can do this...so I

have to see HIM now...oui-vay! Never ending apts!

JO

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have one or know anything?

> > > >

> > > > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth

> are

> > > > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

> > since

> > > we

> > > > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are

coming

> > off

> > > > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

> > spread

> > > > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > > > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite

eye

> > > tooth

> > > > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > > > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I

want

> > to

> > > do

> > > > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > > > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

> > yours

> > > > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> > > >

> > > > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that

> are

> > > not

> > > > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then

> another

> > > > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white

strips

> > is

> > > > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

> > young

> > > > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super

> white-

> > > > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Y'all! JO

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that makes a lot of sense and sounds better than it

could have!

I will let you know. Perio said the regular DDS can do this...so I

have to see HIM now...oui-vay! Never ending apts!

JO

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have one or know anything?

> > > >

> > > > Looking into it Monday, but the idea is the lower front teeth

> are

> > > > sorta weak in the roots...done better than we hoped actually-

> > since

> > > we

> > > > had considered implants...but so far so good. Braces are

coming

> > off

> > > > soon and the OR thinks I should explore this. The idea is to

> > spread

> > > > out the pressure/movement for additional support. Think of a

> > > > retainer, but this will only go from eye tooth to opposite

eye

> > > tooth

> > > > on the inside bottom and be permanent.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know the costs...consult it about $150. so I can only

> > > > imagine...and let's face it, this hasn't been cheap, but I

want

> > to

> > > do

> > > > the right thing and preferably ONCE.

> > > > I may still loose these YEARS from now, but work with what is

> > yours

> > > > as long as you can they all say and I'm down with that.

> > > >

> > > > Also, any one know about Laminates or options for teeth that

> are

> > > not

> > > > so white to begin with and have had braces for 13yrs then

> another

> > > > 2...I really have to do something -no question and white

strips

> > is

> > > > not my answer-too severe. (I also had to take meds when I was

> > young

> > > > and my teeth were forming which robbed them of their super

> white-

> > > > ness.) So what are the options and prices....anybody?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Y'all! JO