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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:04:53 -0500 Regina Block

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> My question is has anyone had anything similar happen to them? I'm

going

> to call my neurologist on Monday to see if there should be any concern.

> Maybe it's just signs of exhaustion. I was completely exhausted and run

> down when it happened the last time too.

>

> Sorry for the length of the note, just wanted you to get a clear

picture

> of what's going on. Otherwise, I feel fine most of the time.

> Regina

Regina,

There has only been one time in my entire life that I have had

anything similar to what you are describing. I seriously don't think it

is the same thing that you are experiencing though. I had congestive

heart failure and had gained 112 lbs in about 6 to 8 months (30 of that

in 28 days). I was exhausted, sleeping all of the time, and my short

term memory stunk. It was totally scary. I certainly would recommend

seeing somebody soon. Sorry you are having so much trouble.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:04:53 -0500 Regina Block

writes:

> My question is has anyone had anything similar happen to them? I'm

going

> to call my neurologist on Monday to see if there should be any concern.

> Maybe it's just signs of exhaustion. I was completely exhausted and run

> down when it happened the last time too.

>

> Sorry for the length of the note, just wanted you to get a clear

picture

> of what's going on. Otherwise, I feel fine most of the time.

> Regina

Regina,

There has only been one time in my entire life that I have had

anything similar to what you are describing. I seriously don't think it

is the same thing that you are experiencing though. I had congestive

heart failure and had gained 112 lbs in about 6 to 8 months (30 of that

in 28 days). I was exhausted, sleeping all of the time, and my short

term memory stunk. It was totally scary. I certainly would recommend

seeing somebody soon. Sorry you are having so much trouble.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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Regina, I have a thought... You said that you haven't taken any

painkillers... but WERE you taking painkillers after the revision and TT and

then recently stopped in the last day or so? The reason that I ask, is that

when we take narcotics, it really affects our sleep patterns and cycles.

You are sleepy as a side effect, but it is not effective sleep, if that

makes any sense. Narcotics take away your REM sleep. People who use

illicit drugs have been known to sleep for days after coming off of a binge,

in order to catch up on REM sleep. The body just goes into repair mode in

order to repair the brain.

Personally, there was a time when I was in ICU and on a ventilator for a few

weeks. I was on very high doses of Demerol for pain, and when they finally

took me off of the ventilator (and the pain medication), I slept for almost

24 hours straight.. a deep sleep, barely moving, completely unaware of the

ICU noises around me. It was one of the strangest things that I have ever

experienced. If you were on pain meds, this could be your body's way of

catching up on what it missed.

The other thing that you said could also be correct though.. That you were

just simply exhausted and needed to sleep. Sometimes our bodies give us no

choice... and when your brain shuts down and says, " enough is enough " .. you

have no choice but to obey!!!

Take care of yourself. My thoughts are with you. Get some much needed

rest.

Deb

^I've been sleeping on the couch since my revision on my tt scar last

^week as I can't sleep on my side with all those stitches. I haven't

^taken any pain killers or anything out of the ordinary.

^

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Regina, I have a thought... You said that you haven't taken any

painkillers... but WERE you taking painkillers after the revision and TT and

then recently stopped in the last day or so? The reason that I ask, is that

when we take narcotics, it really affects our sleep patterns and cycles.

You are sleepy as a side effect, but it is not effective sleep, if that

makes any sense. Narcotics take away your REM sleep. People who use

illicit drugs have been known to sleep for days after coming off of a binge,

in order to catch up on REM sleep. The body just goes into repair mode in

order to repair the brain.

Personally, there was a time when I was in ICU and on a ventilator for a few

weeks. I was on very high doses of Demerol for pain, and when they finally

took me off of the ventilator (and the pain medication), I slept for almost

24 hours straight.. a deep sleep, barely moving, completely unaware of the

ICU noises around me. It was one of the strangest things that I have ever

experienced. If you were on pain meds, this could be your body's way of

catching up on what it missed.

The other thing that you said could also be correct though.. That you were

just simply exhausted and needed to sleep. Sometimes our bodies give us no

choice... and when your brain shuts down and says, " enough is enough " .. you

have no choice but to obey!!!

Take care of yourself. My thoughts are with you. Get some much needed

rest.

Deb

^I've been sleeping on the couch since my revision on my tt scar last

^week as I can't sleep on my side with all those stitches. I haven't

^taken any pain killers or anything out of the ordinary.

^

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Deb:

No I wasn't taking painkillers recently. Had the tummy tuck in April, so almost

a year ago already. My God, how time flies. The revision of the scar had a few

minor problems and only took something that night and that was last Tuesday. Had

a major problem with narcotics over the summer when I had a month and a half

long migraine and almost went into renal failure, so try to stay away from them

as much as possible. Seems that this is the second time in approx. two months

that this has happened. As we are snowed in today, have drifts covering half of

my front window, will not be calling any doctors today unless absolutely

necessary. Feeling ok, just trying to keep the kids busy. Going to boot them out

into a snow drift in about ten minutes.

Hoping that it is/was just exhaustion. Been quite busy with school, kids,

Brownie leader, my son's birthday party, etc. and having my own business. Just

doing cat naps during the day, sleeping for about an two to three hours at

night, then up all night. Been crazy. Will speak to doc this week about it and

maybe do a wait and see type of approach. Will see what he says.

Thanks to all of you who had suggestions.

Regina

PS: , saw heart shaped peeps for Valentine's Day and had to buy them and

give them to my kids. Thought of you and giggled the whole time. Have to tell

you, they hated them and went right in the garbage.

Debbie La - wrote:

> Regina, I have a thought... You said that you haven't taken any

> painkillers... but WERE you taking painkillers after the revision and TT and

> then recently stopped in the last day or so? The reason that I ask, is that

> when we take narcotics, it really affects our sleep patterns and cycles.

> You are sleepy as a side effect, but it is not effective sleep, if that

> makes any sense. Narcotics take away your REM sleep. People who use

> illicit drugs have been known to sleep for days after coming off of a binge,

> in order to catch up on REM sleep. The body just goes into repair mode in

> order to repair the brain.

>

> Personally, there was a time when I was in ICU and on a ventilator for a few

> weeks. I was on very high doses of Demerol for pain, and when they finally

> took me off of the ventilator (and the pain medication), I slept for almost

> 24 hours straight.. a deep sleep, barely moving, completely unaware of the

> ICU noises around me. It was one of the strangest things that I have ever

> experienced. If you were on pain meds, this could be your body's way of

> catching up on what it missed.

>

> The other thing that you said could also be correct though.. That you were

> just simply exhausted and needed to sleep. Sometimes our bodies give us no

> choice... and when your brain shuts down and says, " enough is enough " .. you

> have no choice but to obey!!!

>

> Take care of yourself. My thoughts are with you. Get some much needed

> rest.

>

> Deb

>

> ^I've been sleeping on the couch since my revision on my tt scar last

> ^week as I can't sleep on my side with all those stitches. I haven't

> ^taken any pain killers or anything out of the ordinary.

> ^

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Deb:

No I wasn't taking painkillers recently. Had the tummy tuck in April, so almost

a year ago already. My God, how time flies. The revision of the scar had a few

minor problems and only took something that night and that was last Tuesday. Had

a major problem with narcotics over the summer when I had a month and a half

long migraine and almost went into renal failure, so try to stay away from them

as much as possible. Seems that this is the second time in approx. two months

that this has happened. As we are snowed in today, have drifts covering half of

my front window, will not be calling any doctors today unless absolutely

necessary. Feeling ok, just trying to keep the kids busy. Going to boot them out

into a snow drift in about ten minutes.

Hoping that it is/was just exhaustion. Been quite busy with school, kids,

Brownie leader, my son's birthday party, etc. and having my own business. Just

doing cat naps during the day, sleeping for about an two to three hours at

night, then up all night. Been crazy. Will speak to doc this week about it and

maybe do a wait and see type of approach. Will see what he says.

Thanks to all of you who had suggestions.

Regina

PS: , saw heart shaped peeps for Valentine's Day and had to buy them and

give them to my kids. Thought of you and giggled the whole time. Have to tell

you, they hated them and went right in the garbage.

Debbie La - wrote:

> Regina, I have a thought... You said that you haven't taken any

> painkillers... but WERE you taking painkillers after the revision and TT and

> then recently stopped in the last day or so? The reason that I ask, is that

> when we take narcotics, it really affects our sleep patterns and cycles.

> You are sleepy as a side effect, but it is not effective sleep, if that

> makes any sense. Narcotics take away your REM sleep. People who use

> illicit drugs have been known to sleep for days after coming off of a binge,

> in order to catch up on REM sleep. The body just goes into repair mode in

> order to repair the brain.

>

> Personally, there was a time when I was in ICU and on a ventilator for a few

> weeks. I was on very high doses of Demerol for pain, and when they finally

> took me off of the ventilator (and the pain medication), I slept for almost

> 24 hours straight.. a deep sleep, barely moving, completely unaware of the

> ICU noises around me. It was one of the strangest things that I have ever

> experienced. If you were on pain meds, this could be your body's way of

> catching up on what it missed.

>

> The other thing that you said could also be correct though.. That you were

> just simply exhausted and needed to sleep. Sometimes our bodies give us no

> choice... and when your brain shuts down and says, " enough is enough " .. you

> have no choice but to obey!!!

>

> Take care of yourself. My thoughts are with you. Get some much needed

> rest.

>

> Deb

>

> ^I've been sleeping on the couch since my revision on my tt scar last

> ^week as I can't sleep on my side with all those stitches. I haven't

> ^taken any pain killers or anything out of the ordinary.

> ^

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In a message dated 2/17/2003 9:06:06 AM Central Standard Time,

Penelope@... writes:

> Had a major problem with narcotics over the summer when I had a month and a

> half long migraine and almost went into renal failure, so try to stay away

> from them

> as much as possible.

---------------------------------

Another weapon in the fight against migraine: The epilepsy drug topiramate

(Topamax), we hear from Silberstein, MD. New study: about half of

migraine sufferers who took 100 or 200 milligrams of topiramate daily for 4

months experienced a significant reduction in migraine frequency and

duration. Ask your doctor about topiramate if your migrains are not relieved

by traditional migraine medications. Common side effects: trouble thinking,

" pins & needles " sensation, weight loss.

Source: Bottom Line Personal 3/1/03 edition

Silberstein, MD, is professor of neurology at Jefferson

Unniversity and director of Jefferson Headache Center, both in Philadelphia.

His study of more than 400 migraine sufferers was presented at a recent

Migraine Trust seminar.

Carol A

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In a message dated 2/17/2003 9:06:06 AM Central Standard Time,

Penelope@... writes:

> Had a major problem with narcotics over the summer when I had a month and a

> half long migraine and almost went into renal failure, so try to stay away

> from them

> as much as possible.

---------------------------------

Another weapon in the fight against migraine: The epilepsy drug topiramate

(Topamax), we hear from Silberstein, MD. New study: about half of

migraine sufferers who took 100 or 200 milligrams of topiramate daily for 4

months experienced a significant reduction in migraine frequency and

duration. Ask your doctor about topiramate if your migrains are not relieved

by traditional migraine medications. Common side effects: trouble thinking,

" pins & needles " sensation, weight loss.

Source: Bottom Line Personal 3/1/03 edition

Silberstein, MD, is professor of neurology at Jefferson

Unniversity and director of Jefferson Headache Center, both in Philadelphia.

His study of more than 400 migraine sufferers was presented at a recent

Migraine Trust seminar.

Carol A

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