Re: New Clinique Non-Chemical Sunblock

July 6, 2002

I haven't tried it. Actually, I've been using the Super City Block

which I like better. (I hope they aren't going to start screwing

around with that formula too.)

Anyway, here's the old non-sheer formulation, for comparison. Not

hugely different, from what I can see:

City Block SPF 15 Oil-Free Daily Face Protectant

active ingredient: titanium dioxide

ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] octyldodecyl

neopentanoate [] titanium dioxide [] butylene

glycol [] cyclomethicone [] steareth-2 [] silica [] behenoxy

dimethicone [] zinc oxide [] aluminum laurate []

tricaprylin [] trifluoromethyl c1-4 alkyl dimethicone [] tocopheryl

acetate [] pantethine [] tricaprylyl citrate []

magnesium ascorbyl phosphate [] bisabolol [] lecithin [] xanthan gum

[] sodium stearate [] barium sulfate

[] sorbitan tristearate [] ceteth-2 [] peg-40 stearate [] dimethicone

copolyol [] silver borosilicate [] steareth-

20 [] magnesium aluminum silicate [] citric acid [] alumina [] bht []

disodium edta [] iron oxides (ci 77491, ci

77492, ci 77499) <iln3767>

> City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector SPF 15

>

> Water, purified, trioctyldeodecyl citrate, butylene glycol,

> cyclomethicone, titanium dioxide, tricaprylin, steareth-2, silica -

> tricaprylyl citrate-behenoxy dimethicone, zinc oxide, lecithin,

> sorbitan tristearate, stearic acid, dimethicone, alumina, ceteth 2,

> peg-40 stearate, octyldodecyl neopentanoate, dimethicone copolyol,

> sodium phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, magnesium ascorbyl phosphate,

> stearath 20, disodium edta, pantethine, polyglyceryl-6

> polyricinoleate, bisabolol, sodium stearate, isoprypu; titanium

> trisostearate, silver borosilicate, barium sulfate, xanthan gum,

> magnesium aluminum silicate, bht, iron oxides

July 6, 2002

I haven't tried it. Actually, I've been using the Super City Block

which I like better. (I hope they aren't going to start screwing

around with that formula too.)

Anyway, here's the old non-sheer formulation, for comparison. Not

hugely different, from what I can see:

City Block SPF 15 Oil-Free Daily Face Protectant

active ingredient: titanium dioxide

ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] octyldodecyl

neopentanoate [] titanium dioxide [] butylene

glycol [] cyclomethicone [] steareth-2 [] silica [] behenoxy

dimethicone [] zinc oxide [] aluminum laurate []

tricaprylin [] trifluoromethyl c1-4 alkyl dimethicone [] tocopheryl

acetate [] pantethine [] tricaprylyl citrate []

magnesium ascorbyl phosphate [] bisabolol [] lecithin [] xanthan gum

[] sodium stearate [] barium sulfate

[] sorbitan tristearate [] ceteth-2 [] peg-40 stearate [] dimethicone

copolyol [] silver borosilicate [] steareth-

20 [] magnesium aluminum silicate [] citric acid [] alumina [] bht []

disodium edta [] iron oxides (ci 77491, ci

77492, ci 77499) <iln3767>

> City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector SPF 15

>

> Water, purified, trioctyldeodecyl citrate, butylene glycol,

> cyclomethicone, titanium dioxide, tricaprylin, steareth-2, silica -

> tricaprylyl citrate-behenoxy dimethicone, zinc oxide, lecithin,

> sorbitan tristearate, stearic acid, dimethicone, alumina, ceteth 2,

> peg-40 stearate, octyldodecyl neopentanoate, dimethicone copolyol,

> sodium phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, magnesium ascorbyl phosphate,

> stearath 20, disodium edta, pantethine, polyglyceryl-6

> polyricinoleate, bisabolol, sodium stearate, isoprypu; titanium

> trisostearate, silver borosilicate, barium sulfate, xanthan gum,

> magnesium aluminum silicate, bht, iron oxides

July 8, 2002

You know Clinique. If something works, they'll ruin it, but keep the

same old formulas for some of their awful skin care. (Some of those

toners could pass for alcoholic drinks.)

Although the ingredients sheer city block spf15 ingredients are

similar to the old formula nonsheer city block spf15, they might be

in differing percentages to make the new formula a little less opaque

and a little easier to remove. spf 15 was hard as heck to remove. I

felt like I needed brillo to get it off my face!

Also, most of the guys ( & some gals) on the list don't like a " makeup-

y " look in their sunblock. This might be worth trying for those who

don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

Take care,

Matija

> I haven't tried it. Actually, I've been using the Super City Block

> which I like better. (I hope they aren't going to start screwing

> around with that formula too.)

>

> Anyway, here's the old non-sheer formulation, for comparison. Not

> hugely different, from what I can see:

>

> City Block SPF 15 Oil-Free Daily Face Protectant

>

> active ingredient: titanium dioxide

>

> ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] octyldodecyl

> neopentanoate [] titanium dioxide [] butylene

> glycol [] cyclomethicone [] steareth-2 [] silica [] behenoxy

> dimethicone [] zinc oxide [] aluminum laurate []

> tricaprylin [] trifluoromethyl c1-4 alkyl dimethicone [] tocopheryl

> acetate [] pantethine [] tricaprylyl citrate []

> magnesium ascorbyl phosphate [] bisabolol [] lecithin [] xanthan

gum

> [] sodium stearate [] barium sulfate

> [] sorbitan tristearate [] ceteth-2 [] peg-40 stearate []

dimethicone

> copolyol [] silver borosilicate [] steareth-

> 20 [] magnesium aluminum silicate [] citric acid [] alumina [] bht

[]

> disodium edta [] iron oxides (ci 77491, ci

> 77492, ci 77499) <iln3767>

>

> > City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector SPF 15

> >

> > Water, purified, trioctyldeodecyl citrate, butylene glycol,

> > cyclomethicone, titanium dioxide, tricaprylin, steareth-2,

silica -

> > tricaprylyl citrate-behenoxy dimethicone, zinc oxide, lecithin,

> > sorbitan tristearate, stearic acid, dimethicone, alumina, ceteth

2,

> > peg-40 stearate, octyldodecyl neopentanoate, dimethicone

copolyol,

> > sodium phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, magnesium ascorbyl

phosphate,

> > stearath 20, disodium edta, pantethine, polyglyceryl-6

> > polyricinoleate, bisabolol, sodium stearate, isoprypu; titanium

> > trisostearate, silver borosilicate, barium sulfate, xanthan gum,

> > magnesium aluminum silicate, bht, iron oxides

July 8, 2002

You know Clinique. If something works, they'll ruin it, but keep the

same old formulas for some of their awful skin care. (Some of those

toners could pass for alcoholic drinks.)

Although the ingredients sheer city block spf15 ingredients are

similar to the old formula nonsheer city block spf15, they might be

in differing percentages to make the new formula a little less opaque

and a little easier to remove. spf 15 was hard as heck to remove. I

felt like I needed brillo to get it off my face!

Also, most of the guys ( & some gals) on the list don't like a " makeup-

y " look in their sunblock. This might be worth trying for those who

don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

Take care,

Matija

> I haven't tried it. Actually, I've been using the Super City Block

> which I like better. (I hope they aren't going to start screwing

> around with that formula too.)

>

> Anyway, here's the old non-sheer formulation, for comparison. Not

> hugely different, from what I can see:

>

> City Block SPF 15 Oil-Free Daily Face Protectant

>

> active ingredient: titanium dioxide

>

> ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] octyldodecyl

> neopentanoate [] titanium dioxide [] butylene

> glycol [] cyclomethicone [] steareth-2 [] silica [] behenoxy

> dimethicone [] zinc oxide [] aluminum laurate []

> tricaprylin [] trifluoromethyl c1-4 alkyl dimethicone [] tocopheryl

> acetate [] pantethine [] tricaprylyl citrate []

> magnesium ascorbyl phosphate [] bisabolol [] lecithin [] xanthan

gum

> [] sodium stearate [] barium sulfate

> [] sorbitan tristearate [] ceteth-2 [] peg-40 stearate []

dimethicone

> copolyol [] silver borosilicate [] steareth-

> 20 [] magnesium aluminum silicate [] citric acid [] alumina [] bht

[]

> disodium edta [] iron oxides (ci 77491, ci

> 77492, ci 77499) <iln3767>

>

> > City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector SPF 15

> >

> > Water, purified, trioctyldeodecyl citrate, butylene glycol,

> > cyclomethicone, titanium dioxide, tricaprylin, steareth-2,

silica -

> > tricaprylyl citrate-behenoxy dimethicone, zinc oxide, lecithin,

> > sorbitan tristearate, stearic acid, dimethicone, alumina, ceteth

2,

> > peg-40 stearate, octyldodecyl neopentanoate, dimethicone

copolyol,

> > sodium phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, magnesium ascorbyl

phosphate,

> > stearath 20, disodium edta, pantethine, polyglyceryl-6

> > polyricinoleate, bisabolol, sodium stearate, isoprypu; titanium

> > trisostearate, silver borosilicate, barium sulfate, xanthan gum,

> > magnesium aluminum silicate, bht, iron oxides

July 8, 2002

Matija wrote:

> don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to solicitate

some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only did I go home

empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide samples any

more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

Alena

July 8, 2002

Matija wrote:

> don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to solicitate

some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only did I go home

empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide samples any

more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

Alena

July 8, 2002

I've never received any samples of Clinique products either.

Re: Re: New Clinique Non-Chemical Sunblock

> Matija wrote:

>

> > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

>

> Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to

solicitate

> some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only did I go

home

> empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide samples any

> more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

>

> Alena

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July 8, 2002

I've never received any samples of Clinique products either.

Re: Re: New Clinique Non-Chemical Sunblock

> Matija wrote:

>

> > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their counters.

>

> Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to

solicitate

> some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only did I go

home

> empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide samples any

> more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

>

> Alena

>

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July 8, 2002

Sorry about suggesting samples! I had no idea they don't distribute

them anymore. Some places do take returns if you buy a product

without trying it and it causes a reaction. I know some stores don't

take cosmetic returns under any circumstances.

Someone on the list suggested this a long time ago. I don't know if I

would be bold enough to do it myself. They would take a tiny

container with them to the store and ask if they could make a little

sample using the container and the tester. I don't know if stores

allow that either.

I'm sorry. I wish I had better suggestions for you.

Take care,

Matija

> >

> > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

counters.

> >

> > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to

> solicitate

> > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

did I go

> home

> > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

samples any

> > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> >

> > Alena

> >

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July 8, 2002

Sorry about suggesting samples! I had no idea they don't distribute

them anymore. Some places do take returns if you buy a product

without trying it and it causes a reaction. I know some stores don't

take cosmetic returns under any circumstances.

Someone on the list suggested this a long time ago. I don't know if I

would be bold enough to do it myself. They would take a tiny

container with them to the store and ask if they could make a little

sample using the container and the tester. I don't know if stores

allow that either.

I'm sorry. I wish I had better suggestions for you.

Take care,

Matija

> >

> > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

counters.

> >

> > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried to

> solicitate

> > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

did I go

> home

> > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

samples any

> > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> >

> > Alena

> >

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July 8, 2002

In my experience, most good dept stores that sell Clinique are

usually pretty generous with providing samples. They usually have

those small Estee Lauder jars -- what's needed is a demonstration or

tester, and unfortunately that's rare unless they have a new or

promoted product.

But I've never asked for a sample without buying something from them

at the same time. I would imagine their reluctance to hand out free

samples to a stranger unless they had a demo right there -- that

doesn't cost them a thing. But I could see them being understandably

reluctant to open a brand new bottle that would otherwise be

purchased, esp if it's a high-turnover product, just to turn it into

a demo for someone who isn't likely to purchase anything.

There may be exceptions to the above, and this policy may be limited

to the US, but Clinique (actually, all of Estee Lauder) prides itself

on providing the same sampling service that upscale European stores.

Or so they tell me.

Re: refunds. It is Clinique's policy to accept returns with sales

slips from products purchased at a counter. If the store refuses (it

happened to me once last year) try contacting Clinique online -- they

directed me to customer relations, who heard my story and just sent

me a check for the amount I spent.

I'm looking to time the new sunblock with a bonus pack, but just my

luck, it probably costs $15.50 (with the minimum purchase of $16.50

required for a free bonus pack <g>).

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >

> > > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

> counters.

> > >

> > > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried

to

> > solicitate

> > > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

> did I go

> > home

> > > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

> samples any

> > > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> > >

> > > Alena

> > >

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group

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you

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book.

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> > >

July 8, 2002

In my experience, most good dept stores that sell Clinique are

usually pretty generous with providing samples. They usually have

those small Estee Lauder jars -- what's needed is a demonstration or

tester, and unfortunately that's rare unless they have a new or

promoted product.

But I've never asked for a sample without buying something from them

at the same time. I would imagine their reluctance to hand out free

samples to a stranger unless they had a demo right there -- that

doesn't cost them a thing. But I could see them being understandably

reluctant to open a brand new bottle that would otherwise be

purchased, esp if it's a high-turnover product, just to turn it into

a demo for someone who isn't likely to purchase anything.

There may be exceptions to the above, and this policy may be limited

to the US, but Clinique (actually, all of Estee Lauder) prides itself

on providing the same sampling service that upscale European stores.

Or so they tell me.

Re: refunds. It is Clinique's policy to accept returns with sales

slips from products purchased at a counter. If the store refuses (it

happened to me once last year) try contacting Clinique online -- they

directed me to customer relations, who heard my story and just sent

me a check for the amount I spent.

I'm looking to time the new sunblock with a bonus pack, but just my

luck, it probably costs $15.50 (with the minimum purchase of $16.50

required for a free bonus pack <g>).

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> > >

> > > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

> counters.

> > >

> > > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried

to

> > solicitate

> > > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

> did I go

> > home

> > > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

> samples any

> > > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> > >

> > > Alena

> > >

> > > --

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you

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July 9, 2002

I'm pretty sure clinique sets the minimum price to receive the bonus at

$0.50 more than their most expensive product. They want you to buy at least

2 products. This is just my opinion, and don't get me wrong, I love

clinique products.

>

>To: rosacea-support

>Subject: Re: New Clinique Non-Chemical Sunblock

>Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 03:02:03 -0000

>

>In my experience, most good dept stores that sell Clinique are

>usually pretty generous with providing samples. They usually have

>those small Estee Lauder jars -- what's needed is a demonstration or

>tester, and unfortunately that's rare unless they have a new or

>promoted product.

>

>But I've never asked for a sample without buying something from them

>at the same time. I would imagine their reluctance to hand out free

>samples to a stranger unless they had a demo right there -- that

>doesn't cost them a thing. But I could see them being understandably

>reluctant to open a brand new bottle that would otherwise be

>purchased, esp if it's a high-turnover product, just to turn it into

>a demo for someone who isn't likely to purchase anything.

>

>There may be exceptions to the above, and this policy may be limited

>to the US, but Clinique (actually, all of Estee Lauder) prides itself

>on providing the same sampling service that upscale European stores.

>Or so they tell me.

>

>Re: refunds. It is Clinique's policy to accept returns with sales

>slips from products purchased at a counter. If the store refuses (it

>happened to me once last year) try contacting Clinique online -- they

>directed me to customer relations, who heard my story and just sent

>me a check for the amount I spent.

>

>I'm looking to time the new sunblock with a bonus pack, but just my

>luck, it probably costs $15.50 (with the minimum purchase of $16.50

>required for a free bonus pack <g>).

>

>Marjorie

>

>Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

> > > >

> > > > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

> > counters.

> > > >

> > > > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried

>to

> > > solicitate

> > > > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

> > did I go

> > > home

> > > > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

> > samples any

> > > > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> > > >

> > > > Alena

> > > >

> > > > --

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>group

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>you

> > don't

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>change

> > the

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>book.

> > > >

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July 9, 2002

I'm pretty sure clinique sets the minimum price to receive the bonus at

$0.50 more than their most expensive product. They want you to buy at least

2 products. This is just my opinion, and don't get me wrong, I love

clinique products.

>

>To: rosacea-support

>Subject: Re: New Clinique Non-Chemical Sunblock

>Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 03:02:03 -0000

>

>In my experience, most good dept stores that sell Clinique are

>usually pretty generous with providing samples. They usually have

>those small Estee Lauder jars -- what's needed is a demonstration or

>tester, and unfortunately that's rare unless they have a new or

>promoted product.

>

>But I've never asked for a sample without buying something from them

>at the same time. I would imagine their reluctance to hand out free

>samples to a stranger unless they had a demo right there -- that

>doesn't cost them a thing. But I could see them being understandably

>reluctant to open a brand new bottle that would otherwise be

>purchased, esp if it's a high-turnover product, just to turn it into

>a demo for someone who isn't likely to purchase anything.

>

>There may be exceptions to the above, and this policy may be limited

>to the US, but Clinique (actually, all of Estee Lauder) prides itself

>on providing the same sampling service that upscale European stores.

>Or so they tell me.

>

>Re: refunds. It is Clinique's policy to accept returns with sales

>slips from products purchased at a counter. If the store refuses (it

>happened to me once last year) try contacting Clinique online -- they

>directed me to customer relations, who heard my story and just sent

>me a check for the amount I spent.

>

>I'm looking to time the new sunblock with a bonus pack, but just my

>luck, it probably costs $15.50 (with the minimum purchase of $16.50

>required for a free bonus pack <g>).

>

>Marjorie

>

>Marjorie Lazoff, MD

>

> > > >

> > > > > don't. Clinique is good about giving out samples at their

> > counters.

> > > >

> > > > Not any more - unless this is a Canuck thing. I recently tried

>to

> > > solicitate

> > > > some samples (of the already mentioned sunblocks) and not only

> > did I go

> > > home

> > > > empty handed, I was also told that Clinique doesn't provide

> > samples any

> > > > more. Anybody tried in Canada recently?

> > > >

> > > > Alena

> > > >

> > > > --

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>book.

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July 9, 2002

> But I've never asked for a sample without buying something from them

> at the same time. I would imagine their reluctance to hand out free

> samples to a stranger unless they had a demo right there -- that

> doesn't cost them a thing. But I could see them being understandably

> reluctant to open a brand new bottle that would otherwise be

> purchased, esp if it's a high-turnover product, just to turn it into

> a demo for someone who isn't likely to purchase anything.

Marjorie,

What you are saying makes sense, except that this whole thing is a catch

22 - I can't buy something unless I try it first, but I can't get a sample

unless I buy something - LOL. I did explain the reason why I was asking for

a sample (rosacea). But why I am writing this - I actually do not expect

Clinique's staff to open up a brand new jar to give me a sample - I would

imagine that they have samples available in small pouches (like what you

sometimes get with a magazine, or shampoo samples that are distributed to

every house). The next time I am in a department store I will try again,

though lately my interest in cosmetics is waning away, the last time I was

at Sears I went straight to their tools department and got myself a compound

mitre saw (an excellent deal on the occassion of Fathers' Day). And I am a

lot more excited about it than I would be about a new eye shadow or some

such. <G>

I know what you mean with the minimum purchase price and the bonus - I

always ended up being a dollar or so short. Though in general, I find the

bonus packs useless - it's always one colour of lipstick, regardless of

what's your complexion or colour preference - and of course the colour was

never one I would have picked up anyway. But I digress ----

Alena

July 9, 2002