for those who have had second surgery

[Guest guest]

Hi,

For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor results

the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people looking

at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed within

seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my mind

a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very hard

to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

this.)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor results

the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people looking

at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed within

seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my mind

a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very hard

to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

this.)

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

results

> the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

> have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

> can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

> my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

looking

> at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

within

> seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

mind

> a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

> be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

hard

> to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

> this.)

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

results

> the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

> have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

> can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

> my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

looking

> at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

within

> seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

mind

> a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

> be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

hard

> to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

> this.)

[Guest guest]

katie, I know exactly what you're going thru. I don't think insurance

will cover it unless deemed medically necessary like the first time

not just cosmetic. I got my doc to waive his fees but ironically he

only charges about 3500 for a lefort 1 while the hospital and icu and

hardware costs are about 15000. my insurance ran out after the first

time and may not cover it now. still waiting but scheduled for the

16th. the good thing for you is they should be able to do it

outpatient which is much cheaper. eric

> Hi,

>

> For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor results

> the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

> have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

> can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

> my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people looking

> at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed within

> seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my mind

> a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

> be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very hard

> to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

> this.)

[Guest guest]

katie, I know exactly what you're going thru. I don't think insurance

will cover it unless deemed medically necessary like the first time

not just cosmetic. I got my doc to waive his fees but ironically he

only charges about 3500 for a lefort 1 while the hospital and icu and

hardware costs are about 15000. my insurance ran out after the first

time and may not cover it now. still waiting but scheduled for the

16th. the good thing for you is they should be able to do it

outpatient which is much cheaper. eric

> Hi,

>

> For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor results

> the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want to )

> have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure i

> can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not want

> my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people looking

> at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed within

> seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my mind

> a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and will

> be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very hard

> to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get over

> this.)

[Guest guest]

, what is it exactly that you are having redone? I really don't

know what the issue is that is making me off center. i don't know if

it is the upper jaw not screwed in right and making me off center

although all attached below it is " in line " , or what. All i know is

right now the OS said that my teeth and chin are all centered,

(midlines all centered) but we have not gone further to talk about

why it all looks SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT. As mentioned before, if i

get the guts and can technologically do it, i will post pictures so

you guys can see what i am talking about.

> > Hi,

> >

> > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

results

> > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want

to )

> > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure

i

> > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not

want

> > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

looking

> > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

within

> > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

mind

> > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and

will

> > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

hard

> > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

over

> > this.)

[Guest guest]

, what is it exactly that you are having redone? I really don't

know what the issue is that is making me off center. i don't know if

it is the upper jaw not screwed in right and making me off center

although all attached below it is " in line " , or what. All i know is

right now the OS said that my teeth and chin are all centered,

(midlines all centered) but we have not gone further to talk about

why it all looks SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT. As mentioned before, if i

get the guts and can technologically do it, i will post pictures so

you guys can see what i am talking about.

> > Hi,

> >

> > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

results

> > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want

to )

> > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure

i

> > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not

want

> > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

looking

> > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

within

> > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

mind

> > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and

will

> > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

hard

> > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

over

> > this.)

[Guest guest]

katie, have you had post xrays yet? they may give an indication what

is wrong. I was so mad i got a second opinion and he took xrays of

which i got a copy. looks pretty freaky with all the screws and

plates. I don't know what went wrong with my surgery cuz the doc only

looks and says umh huh, i can fix that! to the best of my guessing

the maxilla wasn't cut on plane so that when it was advanced one side

was lower than the other so I only touch in the back on one molar on

one side. he should be able to just go in and trim it even. how is

your bite? if it's ok maybe your chin slipped from sleeping on one

side. i was always worried about that then i saw the size of the plate

holding it and it is huge! my genio was the only thing that i don't

have problems with. could you have more swelling on one side than the

other? that might give the appearance of being off center. eric

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

> results

> > > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> > > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want

> to )

> > > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure

> i

> > > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not

> want

> > > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

> looking

> > > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

> within

> > > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

> mind

> > > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and

> will

> > > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

> hard

> > > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

> over

> > > this.)

[Guest guest]

katie, have you had post xrays yet? they may give an indication what

is wrong. I was so mad i got a second opinion and he took xrays of

which i got a copy. looks pretty freaky with all the screws and

plates. I don't know what went wrong with my surgery cuz the doc only

looks and says umh huh, i can fix that! to the best of my guessing

the maxilla wasn't cut on plane so that when it was advanced one side

was lower than the other so I only touch in the back on one molar on

one side. he should be able to just go in and trim it even. how is

your bite? if it's ok maybe your chin slipped from sleeping on one

side. i was always worried about that then i saw the size of the plate

holding it and it is huge! my genio was the only thing that i don't

have problems with. could you have more swelling on one side than the

other? that might give the appearance of being off center. eric

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

> results

> > > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i cannot

> > > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or want

> to )

> > > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not sure

> i

> > > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would not

> want

> > > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

> looking

> > > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

> within

> > > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on my

> mind

> > > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd and

> will

> > > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this very

> hard

> > > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

> over

> > > this.)

[Guest guest]

, definitely not a swelling issue, i was hoping and praying it

was. I have very little swelling left if any at all, althought here

are still some things i would like to still change, tissue wise, if

that is to be the case. i DID see my post op xrays, but i really

didn't know what ot look for so it all looked oK to me. the doctor

never said anything about it looking improper. i almost feel like i

want a full frontal skull xray. slipping genio? never heard of it,

but i suppose it is likely. So i was in the produce section of the

store today and who walks up but him, my OS and his lovely bride. i

practically shopped the whole store with them. they were oogling and

oggling at my baby. Anyway, i just burned a cd with pix and will

write a letter so he can preview before our next visit. i am

ASSUMING that the only thing that can be done is a redo of my chin

at my expense. i don;t know, but i am sure he could prove that he

did nothing wrong, as he keeps talking about lining up the lines he

draws actually in surgery. i just need to know how and why this

happened. Oh, my bite. i was almost closed on one side and

quite a bit apart on the other (which i think has something to do

with this whole problem, but elastics are pulling the teeth

together, the wide open side is ALMOST there. i am getting my

surgical wires out in three weeks. i wear 11 bands all the time

except for eating.

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

> > results

> > > > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i

cannot

> > > > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or

want

> > to )

> > > > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not

sure

> > i

> > > > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would

not

> > want

> > > > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

> > looking

> > > > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

> > within

> > > > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on

my

> > mind

> > > > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd

and

> > will

> > > > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this

very

> > hard

> > > > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

> > over

> > > > this.)

[Guest guest]

, definitely not a swelling issue, i was hoping and praying it

was. I have very little swelling left if any at all, althought here

are still some things i would like to still change, tissue wise, if

that is to be the case. i DID see my post op xrays, but i really

didn't know what ot look for so it all looked oK to me. the doctor

never said anything about it looking improper. i almost feel like i

want a full frontal skull xray. slipping genio? never heard of it,

but i suppose it is likely. So i was in the produce section of the

store today and who walks up but him, my OS and his lovely bride. i

practically shopped the whole store with them. they were oogling and

oggling at my baby. Anyway, i just burned a cd with pix and will

write a letter so he can preview before our next visit. i am

ASSUMING that the only thing that can be done is a redo of my chin

at my expense. i don;t know, but i am sure he could prove that he

did nothing wrong, as he keeps talking about lining up the lines he

draws actually in surgery. i just need to know how and why this

happened. Oh, my bite. i was almost closed on one side and

quite a bit apart on the other (which i think has something to do

with this whole problem, but elastics are pulling the teeth

together, the wide open side is ALMOST there. i am getting my

surgical wires out in three weeks. i wear 11 bands all the time

except for eating.

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > For anyone who has had to have a second surgery due to poor

> > results

> > > > the first time, what is the deal with cost coverage? i

cannot

> > > > imagine insurance covering it again, but if i have to (or

want

> > to )

> > > > have another surgery to correct being off center, i am not

sure

> > i

> > > > can afford it. I can LIVE with the way it is, but i would

not

> > want

> > > > my picture taken, EVER, and i would always wonder if people

> > looking

> > > > at me see how off center i am as i do ( and my chiro noticed

> > within

> > > > seconds after working on me). As you can tell, this is on

my

> > mind

> > > > a lot. (p.s. I am putting pictures together on a cd

and

> > will

> > > > be writing a letter to my OS to discuss. i am finding this

very

> > hard

> > > > to discuss with him, as i really like him, but i have to get

> > over

> > > > this.)