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In a message dated 8/26/01 7:44:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

duodenalswitch writes:

<< Since you can tolerate sweets in your

post op surgery state are you concerned with sabotaging the surgery results

by out of control sugar eating? Would this be a reason to choose rny

instead? >>

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carole

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> << Since you can tolerate sweets in your

> post op surgery state are you concerned with sabotaging the

surgery results

> by out of control sugar eating? Would this be a reason to

choose rny

> instead? >>

> NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Carole

I am increasingly convinced that the RnY-for-dumping crowd are

convinced - either by themselves or their surgeons - that they

must continue to punish themselves for the " character flaw " of

obesity. You can eat sugar after RnY or DS, the only difference is

that it is hoped that the dumping syndrome will act as a negative

reinforcement to eating Big Bad Sugar in RnY patients.

However, like pointed out, dumping is neither

guaranteed or long-term.

Sugar can cause problems in weight regain and/or rate of loss

in DS patients. Part of this is because sugar, especially simple

sugars, begin to be digested and absorbed in the mouth, long

before they reach any part of you that is operated on. The

malabsorption part of the DS (and distal-RnY) surgeries help

you to absorb less calories from fat and other nutrients, but not

so much with sugar. This is why people having DS are told to

avoid sugars, especially in the " window of opportunity " post-op.

It can slow-down the rate of weight-loss. RnY patients are told

the same thing because it *could* make them sick (and

slow-down the weight loss).

-maria

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> << Since you can tolerate sweets in your

> post op surgery state are you concerned with sabotaging the

surgery results

> by out of control sugar eating? Would this be a reason to

choose rny

> instead? >>

> NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Carole

I am increasingly convinced that the RnY-for-dumping crowd are

convinced - either by themselves or their surgeons - that they

must continue to punish themselves for the " character flaw " of

obesity. You can eat sugar after RnY or DS, the only difference is

that it is hoped that the dumping syndrome will act as a negative

reinforcement to eating Big Bad Sugar in RnY patients.

However, like pointed out, dumping is neither

guaranteed or long-term.

Sugar can cause problems in weight regain and/or rate of loss

in DS patients. Part of this is because sugar, especially simple

sugars, begin to be digested and absorbed in the mouth, long

before they reach any part of you that is operated on. The

malabsorption part of the DS (and distal-RnY) surgeries help

you to absorb less calories from fat and other nutrients, but not

so much with sugar. This is why people having DS are told to

avoid sugars, especially in the " window of opportunity " post-op.

It can slow-down the rate of weight-loss. RnY patients are told

the same thing because it *could* make them sick (and

slow-down the weight loss).

-maria

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This is very ture as I have met several RNY patients that are over 3 years out.

And they no longer experience the dumping on sugar that they did in the

beginning. I wonder if that is maybe why they have some weight regain.

Lisbeth

You can eat sugar after RnY or DS, the only difference is

that it is hoped that the dumping syndrome will act as a negative

reinforcement to eating Big Bad Sugar in RnY patients.

However, like pointed out, dumping is neither

guaranteed or long-term.

Sugar can cause problems in weight regain and/or rate of loss

in DS patients. Part of this is because sugar, especially simple

sugars, begin to be digested and absorbed in the mouth, long

before they reach any part of you that is operated on. The

malabsorption part of the DS (and distal-RnY) surgeries help

you to absorb less calories from fat and other nutrients, but not

so much with sugar. This is why people having DS are told to

avoid sugars, especially in the " window of opportunity " post-op.

It can slow-down the rate of weight-loss. RnY patients are told

the same thing because it *could* make them sick (and

slow-down the weight loss).

-maria

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This is very ture as I have met several RNY patients that are over 3 years out.

And they no longer experience the dumping on sugar that they did in the

beginning. I wonder if that is maybe why they have some weight regain.

Lisbeth

You can eat sugar after RnY or DS, the only difference is

that it is hoped that the dumping syndrome will act as a negative

reinforcement to eating Big Bad Sugar in RnY patients.

However, like pointed out, dumping is neither

guaranteed or long-term.

Sugar can cause problems in weight regain and/or rate of loss

in DS patients. Part of this is because sugar, especially simple

sugars, begin to be digested and absorbed in the mouth, long

before they reach any part of you that is operated on. The

malabsorption part of the DS (and distal-RnY) surgeries help

you to absorb less calories from fat and other nutrients, but not

so much with sugar. This is why people having DS are told to

avoid sugars, especially in the " window of opportunity " post-op.

It can slow-down the rate of weight-loss. RnY patients are told

the same thing because it *could* make them sick (and

slow-down the weight loss).

-maria

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Three days ago I realized sugar was once again in control of my life. There

was that day when I ate six ice cream sandwiches, followed by the day I ate

four king size candy bars, and 2 ice cream sandwiches (note to self - do not

buy the 48-pack box of ice cream sandiwiches at Costco no matter what a deal

they are).

So.....today is Day 3 of no sugar. Each time I do this it gets a little bit

harder. I'm waiting for the boost of power I'll get from the superior " I am

strong and in control " emotions which should kick in sometime today. And not

that I like to live and die by the scale - but it is down 2 lbs. from three

days ago. This is a good thing.

And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other groups as

proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my email

address so people can ask me directly!!

Kate

kateseidel@...

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Three days ago I realized sugar was once again in control of my life. There

was that day when I ate six ice cream sandwiches, followed by the day I ate

four king size candy bars, and 2 ice cream sandwiches (note to self - do not

buy the 48-pack box of ice cream sandiwiches at Costco no matter what a deal

they are).

So.....today is Day 3 of no sugar. Each time I do this it gets a little bit

harder. I'm waiting for the boost of power I'll get from the superior " I am

strong and in control " emotions which should kick in sometime today. And not

that I like to live and die by the scale - but it is down 2 lbs. from three

days ago. This is a good thing.

And for whoever it is that likes to cut and paste my posts to other groups as

proof that my surgery is a failure, please be sure to include my email

address so people can ask me directly!!

Kate

kateseidel@...

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