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Hi Ray,

I can contribute my post-op holiday meal story. Canadian

Thanksgiving, so maybe 6 or 7 weeks post-op (2 years ago). We brought

mac & beef, which my husband whizzed up a bit. I also had cranberry

sauce and potatoes, and a bit of turnip & squash. It was strange not

to eat turkey, although I've since become a vegetarian so I'm getting

very used to that (and I don't miss it).

It was a tossup whether I or my 1 year old nephew made a bigger mess

on their face. I remember my sister-in-law telling me I had food on

my chin - she said " she can't feel it! " . I used to wipe my face

constantly when eating as I wasn't sure what hadn't made it into my

mouth (that's when I didn't have my locker mirror handy to check).

It was all good times, though. Just a brief stage on the way back to

full recovery.

Glad to hear you're getting some of your braces off soon! but sorry

about the gum issues. Hope things get better.

As for the numb upper palate/gums, I had that for some time post-op.

Eventually it came back for me, but brushing my teeth sure did feel

strange.

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Hi Ray,

I can contribute my post-op holiday meal story. Canadian

Thanksgiving, so maybe 6 or 7 weeks post-op (2 years ago). We brought

mac & beef, which my husband whizzed up a bit. I also had cranberry

sauce and potatoes, and a bit of turnip & squash. It was strange not

to eat turkey, although I've since become a vegetarian so I'm getting

very used to that (and I don't miss it).

It was a tossup whether I or my 1 year old nephew made a bigger mess

on their face. I remember my sister-in-law telling me I had food on

my chin - she said " she can't feel it! " . I used to wipe my face

constantly when eating as I wasn't sure what hadn't made it into my

mouth (that's when I didn't have my locker mirror handy to check).

It was all good times, though. Just a brief stage on the way back to

full recovery.

Glad to hear you're getting some of your braces off soon! but sorry

about the gum issues. Hope things get better.

As for the numb upper palate/gums, I had that for some time post-op.

Eventually it came back for me, but brushing my teeth sure did feel

strange.

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That's the spirit... how to turn something sad into a good thing!

Good for you :)

I got some other good news today. I had a feeling my lower teeth

were in place. Well, I was almost right. My bite is now almost perfect,

and the ortho scheduled me for another appointment, in early

December, to evaluate if the lower braces could be removed in time

for Xmas.. !!!!

On another matter though he wasn't very happy. I need to have root

canal treatments (well, the pivot and the crown need to be put in place

for 4 teeth next year). The wire he's going to install in two weeks is just

attached to one of those teeth. That means the wire is going to be

removed and reinstalled. He wasn't too happy about that. I almost started

an argument with him to get him to understand my situation.

Well, well, well... The moon must not be in a good position, I think :)

Ray

>

> Hi Ray,

>

> I can contribute my post-op holiday meal story. Canadian

> Thanksgiving, so maybe 6 or 7 weeks post-op (2 years ago). We brought

> mac & beef, which my husband whizzed up a bit. I also had cranberry

> sauce and potatoes, and a bit of turnip & squash. It was strange not

> to eat turkey, although I've since become a vegetarian so I'm getting

> very used to that (and I don't miss it).

>

> It was a tossup whether I or my 1 year old nephew made a bigger mess

> on their face. I remember my sister-in-law telling me I had food on

> my chin - she said " she can't feel it! " . I used to wipe my face

> constantly when eating as I wasn't sure what hadn't made it into my

> mouth (that's when I didn't have my locker mirror handy to check).

>

> It was all good times, though. Just a brief stage on the way back to

> full recovery.

>

> Glad to hear you're getting some of your braces off soon! but sorry

> about the gum issues. Hope things get better.

>

> As for the numb upper palate/gums, I had that for some time post-op.

> Eventually it came back for me, but brushing my teeth sure did feel

> strange.

>

>

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That's the spirit... how to turn something sad into a good thing!

Good for you :)

I got some other good news today. I had a feeling my lower teeth

were in place. Well, I was almost right. My bite is now almost perfect,

and the ortho scheduled me for another appointment, in early

December, to evaluate if the lower braces could be removed in time

for Xmas.. !!!!

On another matter though he wasn't very happy. I need to have root

canal treatments (well, the pivot and the crown need to be put in place

for 4 teeth next year). The wire he's going to install in two weeks is just

attached to one of those teeth. That means the wire is going to be

removed and reinstalled. He wasn't too happy about that. I almost started

an argument with him to get him to understand my situation.

Well, well, well... The moon must not be in a good position, I think :)

Ray

>

> Hi Ray,

>

> I can contribute my post-op holiday meal story. Canadian

> Thanksgiving, so maybe 6 or 7 weeks post-op (2 years ago). We brought

> mac & beef, which my husband whizzed up a bit. I also had cranberry

> sauce and potatoes, and a bit of turnip & squash. It was strange not

> to eat turkey, although I've since become a vegetarian so I'm getting

> very used to that (and I don't miss it).

>

> It was a tossup whether I or my 1 year old nephew made a bigger mess

> on their face. I remember my sister-in-law telling me I had food on

> my chin - she said " she can't feel it! " . I used to wipe my face

> constantly when eating as I wasn't sure what hadn't made it into my

> mouth (that's when I didn't have my locker mirror handy to check).

>

> It was all good times, though. Just a brief stage on the way back to

> full recovery.

>

> Glad to hear you're getting some of your braces off soon! but sorry

> about the gum issues. Hope things get better.

>

> As for the numb upper palate/gums, I had that for some time post-op.

> Eventually it came back for me, but brushing my teeth sure did feel

> strange.

>

>

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Hey Ray,

It wasn't sad, that's the whole point, I approached it all with a

healthy sense of humour.

Got my fingers, eyes, toes, legs & arms crossed for your braces

coming off for Xmas (does that mean we don't have to buy you a gift

now?)

Be careful fighting with your ortho, though. Those guys/gals can make

your life pretty miserable without a lot of effort (not that they

WOULD, but the thought is kind of scary to me).

>

> That's the spirit... how to turn something sad into a good thing!

> Good for you :)

>

> I got some other good news today. I had a feeling my lower teeth

> were in place. Well, I was almost right. My bite is now almost

perfect,

> and the ortho scheduled me for another appointment, in early

> December, to evaluate if the lower braces could be removed in time

> for Xmas.. !!!!

>

> On another matter though he wasn't very happy. I need to have root

> canal treatments (well, the pivot and the crown need to be put in

place

> for 4 teeth next year). The wire he's going to install in two

weeks is just

> attached to one of those teeth. That means the wire is going to be

> removed and reinstalled. He wasn't too happy about that. I almost

started

> an argument with him to get him to understand my situation.

>

> Well, well, well... The moon must not be in a good position, I

think :)

>

> Ray

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Hey Ray,

It wasn't sad, that's the whole point, I approached it all with a

healthy sense of humour.

Got my fingers, eyes, toes, legs & arms crossed for your braces

coming off for Xmas (does that mean we don't have to buy you a gift

now?)

Be careful fighting with your ortho, though. Those guys/gals can make

your life pretty miserable without a lot of effort (not that they

WOULD, but the thought is kind of scary to me).

>

> That's the spirit... how to turn something sad into a good thing!

> Good for you :)

>

> I got some other good news today. I had a feeling my lower teeth

> were in place. Well, I was almost right. My bite is now almost

perfect,

> and the ortho scheduled me for another appointment, in early

> December, to evaluate if the lower braces could be removed in time

> for Xmas.. !!!!

>

> On another matter though he wasn't very happy. I need to have root

> canal treatments (well, the pivot and the crown need to be put in

place

> for 4 teeth next year). The wire he's going to install in two

weeks is just

> attached to one of those teeth. That means the wire is going to be

> removed and reinstalled. He wasn't too happy about that. I almost

started

> an argument with him to get him to understand my situation.

>

> Well, well, well... The moon must not be in a good position, I

think :)

>

> Ray

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> Hey Ray,

>

> It wasn't sad, that's the whole point, I approached it all with a

> healthy sense of humour.

>

> Got my fingers, eyes, toes, legs & arms crossed for your braces

> coming off for Xmas (does that mean we don't have to buy you a gift

> now?)

>

> Be careful fighting with your ortho, though. Those guys/gals can make

> your life pretty miserable without a lot of effort (not that they

> WOULD, but the thought is kind of scary to me).

>

>

I've already made a list of things for x-mas. I'm getting a combined gift

(both familly and friends). I hope they won't change their minds!!!

The ortho thing :

Problem is, 4 root canal, a deep gum cleaning (there's a medical word

for it, I can't find it in English now), some other things at two teeth. The

total cost of this is 8000$. Out of my pocket. On top of the 4000$ it

already cost me since the last 24 months. I'm not an ATM.. :-) We

used to make two trips per year (not very expensive ones, but still). It's

been two years now, and I'm sure, I won't be travelling next year as well!

What I argued about is that he said that I never told him I needed that

much additionnal care. Well, if he had paid attention, I did told him.

4 times. It's even written in my file (I made sure because I had a feeling

he would forget at the first occassion... !). So, he started arguing I didn't

need those pivots and crowns (you do know what I'm talking about... a pin

is inserted in a teeth, and then a synthetic crown like thing is applied

over the teeth to prevent further damaging the teeth itself).

Well, I have every confidence in my dentist. And if it wasn't for her,

I wouldn't have had this whole ortho + orthognatic treatment... So I guess

she's indeed right. She cares a great about me, I think I'm her pet project...

She even fixes my teeth for free (not post-poned payment, plain free!)

for the emergency repair I needed over the passed 12 months.

Granted, it's not thousands of dollars, but still, it's better than having to

pay 50$ for each time it happened (five or six times I think).

If she says I need root canal treatment, then I need it. No question.

So, that's it. I don't like arguing (I get drained easily when this happens),

so I made my point, and I quietly left his office once he was finished.

And all this for a stupid damn wire that can be glued again if required.

It's not like if I had to remove braces and put them back on. It's just a tiny

wire...

Ray

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> Hey Ray,

>

> It wasn't sad, that's the whole point, I approached it all with a

> healthy sense of humour.

>

> Got my fingers, eyes, toes, legs & arms crossed for your braces

> coming off for Xmas (does that mean we don't have to buy you a gift

> now?)

>

> Be careful fighting with your ortho, though. Those guys/gals can make

> your life pretty miserable without a lot of effort (not that they

> WOULD, but the thought is kind of scary to me).

>

>

I've already made a list of things for x-mas. I'm getting a combined gift

(both familly and friends). I hope they won't change their minds!!!

The ortho thing :

Problem is, 4 root canal, a deep gum cleaning (there's a medical word

for it, I can't find it in English now), some other things at two teeth. The

total cost of this is 8000$. Out of my pocket. On top of the 4000$ it

already cost me since the last 24 months. I'm not an ATM.. :-) We

used to make two trips per year (not very expensive ones, but still). It's

been two years now, and I'm sure, I won't be travelling next year as well!

What I argued about is that he said that I never told him I needed that

much additionnal care. Well, if he had paid attention, I did told him.

4 times. It's even written in my file (I made sure because I had a feeling

he would forget at the first occassion... !). So, he started arguing I didn't

need those pivots and crowns (you do know what I'm talking about... a pin

is inserted in a teeth, and then a synthetic crown like thing is applied

over the teeth to prevent further damaging the teeth itself).

Well, I have every confidence in my dentist. And if it wasn't for her,

I wouldn't have had this whole ortho + orthognatic treatment... So I guess

she's indeed right. She cares a great about me, I think I'm her pet project...

She even fixes my teeth for free (not post-poned payment, plain free!)

for the emergency repair I needed over the passed 12 months.

Granted, it's not thousands of dollars, but still, it's better than having to

pay 50$ for each time it happened (five or six times I think).

If she says I need root canal treatment, then I need it. No question.

So, that's it. I don't like arguing (I get drained easily when this happens),

so I made my point, and I quietly left his office once he was finished.

And all this for a stupid damn wire that can be glued again if required.

It's not like if I had to remove braces and put them back on. It's just a tiny

wire...

Ray

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I can tell you how to make a bang-up cranberry compote, if you're

into that sort of thing. Get a 10-oz. package of fresh cranberries.

Put them in a saucepan and add 2 cups sugar (I can't translate into

grams or kilos -- sorry, but there are sites that will do it for you,

if you're used to thinking metrically). Let that cook down, adding

some water, but not much, if you need.

When the cranberries start popping, add some allspice, some ground

cloves, some orange peel (only the orange part, not the white, and

there's a term for that, but I can't remember it right now, even in

English!) and any other seasoning you like...

As for the ortho terms, those were sorta beaten into my skull.

The deep gum cleaning, around here, is usually called " root planing. "

Now: the pivots and crowns -- I'm not familiar with that, unless

these are implants. To do usual crowns, here, they grind down what's

left of the tooth, then put the synthetic tooth over it. To do

implants, they remove the tooth (I think) and put in a metal post,

which may be attached to an underlying steel curving rod, if you have

to have many of them side by side. Then the synthetic tooth goes over

the metal post. At least that's how they did it some years ago, when

I did a newspaper story about it.

Good luck!

Cammie

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I can tell you how to make a bang-up cranberry compote, if you're

into that sort of thing. Get a 10-oz. package of fresh cranberries.

Put them in a saucepan and add 2 cups sugar (I can't translate into

grams or kilos -- sorry, but there are sites that will do it for you,

if you're used to thinking metrically). Let that cook down, adding

some water, but not much, if you need.

When the cranberries start popping, add some allspice, some ground

cloves, some orange peel (only the orange part, not the white, and

there's a term for that, but I can't remember it right now, even in

English!) and any other seasoning you like...

As for the ortho terms, those were sorta beaten into my skull.

The deep gum cleaning, around here, is usually called " root planing. "

Now: the pivots and crowns -- I'm not familiar with that, unless

these are implants. To do usual crowns, here, they grind down what's

left of the tooth, then put the synthetic tooth over it. To do

implants, they remove the tooth (I think) and put in a metal post,

which may be attached to an underlying steel curving rod, if you have

to have many of them side by side. Then the synthetic tooth goes over

the metal post. At least that's how they did it some years ago, when

I did a newspaper story about it.

Good luck!

Cammie

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> I can tell you how to make a bang-up cranberry compote, if you're

> into that sort of thing. Get a 10-oz. package of fresh cranberries.

> Put them in a saucepan and add 2 cups sugar (I can't translate into

> grams or kilos -- sorry, but there are sites that will do it for you,

> if you're used to thinking metrically). Let that cook down, adding

> some water, but not much, if you need.

>

> When the cranberries start popping, add some allspice, some ground

> cloves, some orange peel (only the orange part, not the white, and

> there's a term for that, but I can't remember it right now, even in

> English!) and any other seasoning you like...

>

> As for the ortho terms, those were sorta beaten into my skull.

>

> The deep gum cleaning, around here, is usually called " root planing. "

>

> Now: the pivots and crowns -- I'm not familiar with that, unless

> these are implants. To do usual crowns, here, they grind down what's

> left of the tooth, then put the synthetic tooth over it. To do

> implants, they remove the tooth (I think) and put in a metal post,

> which may be attached to an underlying steel curving rod, if you have

> to have many of them side by side. Then the synthetic tooth goes over

> the metal post. At least that's how they did it some years ago, when

> I did a newspaper story about it.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Cammie

Thanks for the recipe!

I think we're tallking about the same tooth treatment here. Only here,

they keep a part of the real tooth.

(It's a secret plan to charge higher rates.. haha!)

Ray

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> I can tell you how to make a bang-up cranberry compote, if you're

> into that sort of thing. Get a 10-oz. package of fresh cranberries.

> Put them in a saucepan and add 2 cups sugar (I can't translate into

> grams or kilos -- sorry, but there are sites that will do it for you,

> if you're used to thinking metrically). Let that cook down, adding

> some water, but not much, if you need.

>

> When the cranberries start popping, add some allspice, some ground

> cloves, some orange peel (only the orange part, not the white, and

> there's a term for that, but I can't remember it right now, even in

> English!) and any other seasoning you like...

>

> As for the ortho terms, those were sorta beaten into my skull.

>

> The deep gum cleaning, around here, is usually called " root planing. "

>

> Now: the pivots and crowns -- I'm not familiar with that, unless

> these are implants. To do usual crowns, here, they grind down what's

> left of the tooth, then put the synthetic tooth over it. To do

> implants, they remove the tooth (I think) and put in a metal post,

> which may be attached to an underlying steel curving rod, if you have

> to have many of them side by side. Then the synthetic tooth goes over

> the metal post. At least that's how they did it some years ago, when

> I did a newspaper story about it.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Cammie

Thanks for the recipe!

I think we're tallking about the same tooth treatment here. Only here,

they keep a part of the real tooth.

(It's a secret plan to charge higher rates.. haha!)

Ray

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