Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I was only told to keep the sugar under 6 grams a meal and they never said anything about watching carbs. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I was only told to keep the sugar under 6 grams a meal and they never said anything about watching carbs. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 It depends what your doctorn said and what the carbs consist of....If it is sugar alcohol, watch out. Too much sugar alcohol has a laxative effect. If its flour, whatever the doctor says. My doctor said no carbs until 75% weight loss. That included vegetables too. Make sure you talk to your doctor about those kinds of questions, because every doctor is different. Mindi 277/175/125?? Lap RNY 6/26/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 It depends what your doctorn said and what the carbs consist of....If it is sugar alcohol, watch out. Too much sugar alcohol has a laxative effect. If its flour, whatever the doctor says. My doctor said no carbs until 75% weight loss. That included vegetables too. Make sure you talk to your doctor about those kinds of questions, because every doctor is different. Mindi 277/175/125?? Lap RNY 6/26/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I have not had a lot of trouble with carbs. My goal is to eat protein first then vegies and fuits and I am filled by those so carbs are not really an issue for me. I would be interested to hear what your nutrionist says about that cos mine never made it a big deal.. keep me posted > I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. > I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? > > Allan > Lap Rny > 12-15-03 > 312 / 270 / > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I have not had a lot of trouble with carbs. My goal is to eat protein first then vegies and fuits and I am filled by those so carbs are not really an issue for me. I would be interested to hear what your nutrionist says about that cos mine never made it a big deal.. keep me posted > I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. > I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? > > Allan > Lap Rny > 12-15-03 > 312 / 270 / > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I think that I watch carbs, just from being on the Atkins diet for so long(and it not working, by the way)...I approach my food intake differently. I tend to focus on the sugars and the fats, because I don't want to dump. My doc put no restrictions on carbs for me. I figure that if I want a cracker or a bagel, I will eat, I can't eat much, so I figure I am really not consuming that many carbs anyway. One of the first things I was allowed to eat was potatoe soup or mashed potatoes, but they make me sick so I shy away from them...good luck! Hannah open rny 9/29/03 288/210/??? > I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. > I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? > > Allan > Lap Rny > 12-15-03 > 312 / 270 / > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I think that I watch carbs, just from being on the Atkins diet for so long(and it not working, by the way)...I approach my food intake differently. I tend to focus on the sugars and the fats, because I don't want to dump. My doc put no restrictions on carbs for me. I figure that if I want a cracker or a bagel, I will eat, I can't eat much, so I figure I am really not consuming that many carbs anyway. One of the first things I was allowed to eat was potatoe soup or mashed potatoes, but they make me sick so I shy away from them...good luck! Hannah open rny 9/29/03 288/210/??? > I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. > I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? > > Allan > Lap Rny > 12-15-03 > 312 / 270 / > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi Allan, Carbs are your friend as long as you eat the right ones. Remember the old saying about how the car needs gas to burn to run? It is the same thing with people. You will get to a stage where you need to add in some good carbs in order for your body to have something to burn. If you don't, you'll eventually hit a plateau that won't budge until you do. Right now, you may be experiencing alot of fat burning due to the increase in protien and exercise, but with no carbs at all, you will crap out eventually. This whole process of surgery includes the behavior modification which has to do with changing habits and learning to eat again with the making of right choices. Your reading lables and knowing what you are eating is one of the good habits and will give you much skill as this process plays out. Consuming less then 5 sugars in a serving is very fair but the exchange comes in fruits, where they can contain in the 20's of sugars, but these are again the safer carbs and sugars and because they take longer for the body to release. What you want to avoid is granulated sugars, corn syrup and stuff like that which is hidden in alot of products. A sweet potato or yam is awesome for a carb at dinner or lunch, only 1/4 or half with some butter and cinniman is yummy. It's got less calories then a white potato and has more fiber which actually cancels out the fiber carbs. Wild rice is another grain and a good carbo. Just eat it in moderation after eating your steak or turkey for dinner. Gravy isn't bad, just keep it at small amount and make it with cornstarch or wheat flour. I don't know of anyone that follows a 0 carb program. I think the norm is anywhere from 20-60 a day. I have days where I'm less then 20, other days I'm around 30, just one day at a time and vary it. Your eating small portions now so it's just not something you have to worry too much about, just use common since. Hugs! carbs and 0 sugars I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? Allan Lap Rny 12-15-03 312 / 270 / --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi Allan, Carbs are your friend as long as you eat the right ones. Remember the old saying about how the car needs gas to burn to run? It is the same thing with people. You will get to a stage where you need to add in some good carbs in order for your body to have something to burn. If you don't, you'll eventually hit a plateau that won't budge until you do. Right now, you may be experiencing alot of fat burning due to the increase in protien and exercise, but with no carbs at all, you will crap out eventually. This whole process of surgery includes the behavior modification which has to do with changing habits and learning to eat again with the making of right choices. Your reading lables and knowing what you are eating is one of the good habits and will give you much skill as this process plays out. Consuming less then 5 sugars in a serving is very fair but the exchange comes in fruits, where they can contain in the 20's of sugars, but these are again the safer carbs and sugars and because they take longer for the body to release. What you want to avoid is granulated sugars, corn syrup and stuff like that which is hidden in alot of products. A sweet potato or yam is awesome for a carb at dinner or lunch, only 1/4 or half with some butter and cinniman is yummy. It's got less calories then a white potato and has more fiber which actually cancels out the fiber carbs. Wild rice is another grain and a good carbo. Just eat it in moderation after eating your steak or turkey for dinner. Gravy isn't bad, just keep it at small amount and make it with cornstarch or wheat flour. I don't know of anyone that follows a 0 carb program. I think the norm is anywhere from 20-60 a day. I have days where I'm less then 20, other days I'm around 30, just one day at a time and vary it. Your eating small portions now so it's just not something you have to worry too much about, just use common since. Hugs! carbs and 0 sugars I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? Allan Lap Rny 12-15-03 312 / 270 / --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I wouldn't recommend white rice, but brown rice and wild rice is good stuff!!! Lotsa fiber!!! Re: carbs and 0 sugars I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I wouldn't recommend white rice, but brown rice and wild rice is good stuff!!! Lotsa fiber!!! Re: carbs and 0 sugars I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Allan, I too was told to watch the sugars, but nothing about the carbs. I brought it up to the doctor at my 6 week check, and she told me to not worry about them for now. Once again, doctors are all different. Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Allan, I too was told to watch the sugars, but nothing about the carbs. I brought it up to the doctor at my 6 week check, and she told me to not worry about them for now. Once again, doctors are all different. Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I was told to avoid white rice, but that brown rice was fine. Lots of opinions! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Re: carbs and 0 sugars I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I was told to avoid white rice, but that brown rice was fine. Lots of opinions! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Re: carbs and 0 sugars I didn't think we could have rice anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Allan just to confirm what wrote. My doc put me on 70% protein, 20% fruits and vegs, 10% carbs when I was allowed back on regular diet. But the carb provision was NOTHING WHITE!!! No rice (except brown or wild), no white bread, no white flour, no sugar etc.... When I was 10 weeks out I was still exhausted and had almost no strength. I could still not go grocery shopping by myself because I could not walk the whole store. My doc at that point told me to get one serving of carbs at every meal. For me that means 1/2 slice of low carb bread or something about that size. Things really changed for me after that. I could move again. I never felt so grateful for anything in my whole life. What you care about is the " effective " carbs. Those are the carbs which effect your glucose levels. Not many products show that but you can always buy a good diabetic carb counting book which will tell you what is what, or you can use Atkins products (but they are pricey) which normally tell you how many " Effective carbs " something has or (and this is the easiest and cheapest way) just keep to the rule of nothing white and avoid anything processed. Anything in it's most natural form will usually be ok. Candi carbs and 0 sugars I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? Allan Lap Rny 12-15-03 312 / 270 / --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Allan just to confirm what wrote. My doc put me on 70% protein, 20% fruits and vegs, 10% carbs when I was allowed back on regular diet. But the carb provision was NOTHING WHITE!!! No rice (except brown or wild), no white bread, no white flour, no sugar etc.... When I was 10 weeks out I was still exhausted and had almost no strength. I could still not go grocery shopping by myself because I could not walk the whole store. My doc at that point told me to get one serving of carbs at every meal. For me that means 1/2 slice of low carb bread or something about that size. Things really changed for me after that. I could move again. I never felt so grateful for anything in my whole life. What you care about is the " effective " carbs. Those are the carbs which effect your glucose levels. Not many products show that but you can always buy a good diabetic carb counting book which will tell you what is what, or you can use Atkins products (but they are pricey) which normally tell you how many " Effective carbs " something has or (and this is the easiest and cheapest way) just keep to the rule of nothing white and avoid anything processed. Anything in it's most natural form will usually be ok. Candi carbs and 0 sugars I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0 sugars. I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have those few carbs? Allan Lap Rny 12-15-03 312 / 270 / --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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