Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Shelley, I too have heard contradictory information about propylene glycol and so am attentive to its presence in products I use. I don't believe that a Begoun addresses the concern of sensitization (when continued use of a product results in a new allergic dermatitis), which is different from immediate irritation or sensitivity. Despite all the rumors, most people agree with Begoun, regarding propylene glycol as exceptionally safe and effective (on normal skin). For what it's worth, I've not noticed any correlation between irritation or other dermatitis and propylene glycol on my very sensitive skin. But I do look for the newer glycols such as butylene glycol, which don't carry the same rumors. Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may find a foundation in their line that suits you. I'm sure other hypoallergenic non- fragrance lines do as well. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. > ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Shelley, I too have heard contradictory information about propylene glycol and so am attentive to its presence in products I use. I don't believe that a Begoun addresses the concern of sensitization (when continued use of a product results in a new allergic dermatitis), which is different from immediate irritation or sensitivity. Despite all the rumors, most people agree with Begoun, regarding propylene glycol as exceptionally safe and effective (on normal skin). For what it's worth, I've not noticed any correlation between irritation or other dermatitis and propylene glycol on my very sensitive skin. But I do look for the newer glycols such as butylene glycol, which don't carry the same rumors. Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may find a foundation in their line that suits you. I'm sure other hypoallergenic non- fragrance lines do as well. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. > ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Shelley, I too have heard contradictory information about propylene glycol and so am attentive to its presence in products I use. I don't believe that a Begoun addresses the concern of sensitization (when continued use of a product results in a new allergic dermatitis), which is different from immediate irritation or sensitivity. Despite all the rumors, most people agree with Begoun, regarding propylene glycol as exceptionally safe and effective (on normal skin). For what it's worth, I've not noticed any correlation between irritation or other dermatitis and propylene glycol on my very sensitive skin. But I do look for the newer glycols such as butylene glycol, which don't carry the same rumors. Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may find a foundation in their line that suits you. I'm sure other hypoallergenic non- fragrance lines do as well. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. > ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Shelley, I too have heard contradictory information about propylene glycol and so am attentive to its presence in products I use. I don't believe that a Begoun addresses the concern of sensitization (when continued use of a product results in a new allergic dermatitis), which is different from immediate irritation or sensitivity. Despite all the rumors, most people agree with Begoun, regarding propylene glycol as exceptionally safe and effective (on normal skin). For what it's worth, I've not noticed any correlation between irritation or other dermatitis and propylene glycol on my very sensitive skin. But I do look for the newer glycols such as butylene glycol, which don't carry the same rumors. Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may find a foundation in their line that suits you. I'm sure other hypoallergenic non- fragrance lines do as well. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. > ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 propylene glycol advise please. I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My $0.02 worth is that (IMNSHO*)propylene glycol, **at the level normally used in cosmetics**, does not cause problems to the vast majority of people. However ceans are particularly sensitive so I'd be interested to read any comments. As usual though, how can we tell whether it's the prop glycol and not one of the 101 other ingredients? Barry Hunt * = in my not-so-humble opinion - does anyone really have a humble opinion??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 propylene glycol advise please. I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My $0.02 worth is that (IMNSHO*)propylene glycol, **at the level normally used in cosmetics**, does not cause problems to the vast majority of people. However ceans are particularly sensitive so I'd be interested to read any comments. As usual though, how can we tell whether it's the prop glycol and not one of the 101 other ingredients? Barry Hunt * = in my not-so-humble opinion - does anyone really have a humble opinion??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 propylene glycol advise please. I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My $0.02 worth is that (IMNSHO*)propylene glycol, **at the level normally used in cosmetics**, does not cause problems to the vast majority of people. However ceans are particularly sensitive so I'd be interested to read any comments. As usual though, how can we tell whether it's the prop glycol and not one of the 101 other ingredients? Barry Hunt * = in my not-so-humble opinion - does anyone really have a humble opinion??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 propylene glycol advise please. I know Dr Nase has warned against propylene glycol in facial care but there is a foundation I want to try which is 70% water and the 2nd ingredient is propylene glycol. Have people's experiences with this ingredient been ok? I do not mean to undermine what Dr Nase said about this ingredient: I just wanted answers based on people's real experiences with this ingredient. I would especially welcome replies from people who are very sensitive to cosmetics and can use this ingredient with no problem. I read a short piece on paula Begoun's site recently www.cosmeticcop.com in which she claims that the propylene glycol used in cosmetics is actually very safe and has not been found to be irritating - she says that this ingredient has undeservedly received a bad press in recent years mainly at the hands of those pushing 'natural' products which can be just as harsh and damaging to our skin as manmade ingredients. Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart from Jane Iredale or anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. ShellGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My $0.02 worth is that (IMNSHO*)propylene glycol, **at the level normally used in cosmetics**, does not cause problems to the vast majority of people. However ceans are particularly sensitive so I'd be interested to read any comments. As usual though, how can we tell whether it's the prop glycol and not one of the 101 other ingredients? Barry Hunt * = in my not-so-humble opinion - does anyone really have a humble opinion??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I use FANCL Milky Foundation No2, no fragrance or preservatives and it's made for sensitive skin. You can order online at www.fancl.com Here are the ingredints: purified water, squlane, butylene glycol. glycerin, glutaral, jojoba(buxus chinensis)oil, polyoxyethylene hydrogenated castor oil, dioctyldodeceth-2 lauroyl glutamate, glyceryl undecylenate, fagus sylvatica extract, parsley extract, xantan gum, caarbomer, arginine, serine, glycerin esters fo fatty acids, sodium hyaluronate, proline //Kajsa. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart > from Jane Iredale or > anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I use FANCL Milky Foundation No2, no fragrance or preservatives and it's made for sensitive skin. You can order online at www.fancl.com Here are the ingredints: purified water, squlane, butylene glycol. glycerin, glutaral, jojoba(buxus chinensis)oil, polyoxyethylene hydrogenated castor oil, dioctyldodeceth-2 lauroyl glutamate, glyceryl undecylenate, fagus sylvatica extract, parsley extract, xantan gum, caarbomer, arginine, serine, glycerin esters fo fatty acids, sodium hyaluronate, proline //Kajsa. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart > from Jane Iredale or > anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I use FANCL Milky Foundation No2, no fragrance or preservatives and it's made for sensitive skin. You can order online at www.fancl.com Here are the ingredints: purified water, squlane, butylene glycol. glycerin, glutaral, jojoba(buxus chinensis)oil, polyoxyethylene hydrogenated castor oil, dioctyldodeceth-2 lauroyl glutamate, glyceryl undecylenate, fagus sylvatica extract, parsley extract, xantan gum, caarbomer, arginine, serine, glycerin esters fo fatty acids, sodium hyaluronate, proline //Kajsa. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart > from Jane Iredale or > anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I use FANCL Milky Foundation No2, no fragrance or preservatives and it's made for sensitive skin. You can order online at www.fancl.com Here are the ingredints: purified water, squlane, butylene glycol. glycerin, glutaral, jojoba(buxus chinensis)oil, polyoxyethylene hydrogenated castor oil, dioctyldodeceth-2 lauroyl glutamate, glyceryl undecylenate, fagus sylvatica extract, parsley extract, xantan gum, caarbomer, arginine, serine, glycerin esters fo fatty acids, sodium hyaluronate, proline //Kajsa. > Can any one recommend any gentle foundations apart > from Jane Iredale or > anything with fragrance? Thanks. Please reply. _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I had been using metrocream for awhile with no adverse reactions. A new derm insisted that metrogel " was better " . After several weeks of use I could no longer stand the tight, painful, red and irritated skin using metrogel had created. Even though there are more differences between the two topicals than just propylene glycol I was lead to believe from posts from this group as well as my PCP that propylene glycol was the culprit. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I had been using metrocream for awhile with no adverse reactions. A new derm insisted that metrogel " was better " . After several weeks of use I could no longer stand the tight, painful, red and irritated skin using metrogel had created. Even though there are more differences between the two topicals than just propylene glycol I was lead to believe from posts from this group as well as my PCP that propylene glycol was the culprit. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I had been using metrocream for awhile with no adverse reactions. A new derm insisted that metrogel " was better " . After several weeks of use I could no longer stand the tight, painful, red and irritated skin using metrogel had created. Even though there are more differences between the two topicals than just propylene glycol I was lead to believe from posts from this group as well as my PCP that propylene glycol was the culprit. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 I had been using metrocream for awhile with no adverse reactions. A new derm insisted that metrogel " was better " . After several weeks of use I could no longer stand the tight, painful, red and irritated skin using metrogel had created. Even though there are more differences between the two topicals than just propylene glycol I was lead to believe from posts from this group as well as my PCP that propylene glycol was the culprit. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hi Dr. Marjorie, Which Clinique foundation do you use? I did well by your Super City Block SPF 25! Take care - Michele > Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may > find a foundation > in their line that suits you. I'm sure other > hypoallergenic non- > fragrance lines do as well. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hi Dr. Marjorie, Which Clinique foundation do you use? I did well by your Super City Block SPF 25! Take care - Michele > Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may > find a foundation > in their line that suits you. I'm sure other > hypoallergenic non- > fragrance lines do as well. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hi Dr. Marjorie, Which Clinique foundation do you use? I did well by your Super City Block SPF 25! Take care - Michele > Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may > find a foundation > in their line that suits you. I'm sure other > hypoallergenic non- > fragrance lines do as well. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hi Dr. Marjorie, Which Clinique foundation do you use? I did well by your Super City Block SPF 25! Take care - Michele > Clinique make-up uses butylene glycol, so you may > find a foundation > in their line that suits you. I'm sure other > hypoallergenic non- > fragrance lines do as well. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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