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it's the same as ruptured,hurneated,or slipped(a misnomer). its more

like squished. years of poor lifting habits with a few bouts of

straining the milk and one day you bend over to pick up the straw that

breaks the camel's back. the disc actually elongates on one side and

extrudes the nuclei thru the breached annulus (fiberous rings that

contain the nucleus) putting pressure on the nerve. the only cure is

time(usually a year) or micro surgery. ruptured in january, started

physical training in march and chiro in april. didn't get any worse

until jaw surgery and stresses made it flair up. i've got no real back

pain just sciatica which limits mobility. if after a year it's still

bad i'll have surgery cuz can't even hold down a job as it is now.

forces me to have too much asstime but hey i get to bone up on my

typing skills! eric

> > I agree with you susan. I have a chiro and MT for a blown disc in

> my

> > lower back. while I couldn't get adjustments to my neck or lie

face

> > down until the hardware was removed the neck work was great. then

> at 8

> > weeks a major kink in my neck was removed. while my back is still

> AFU

> > the trauma to my head and neck from surgery is gone. ps-as of last

> > year i think i now qualify a professional patient. eric

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it's the same as ruptured,hurneated,or slipped(a misnomer). its more

like squished. years of poor lifting habits with a few bouts of

straining the milk and one day you bend over to pick up the straw that

breaks the camel's back. the disc actually elongates on one side and

extrudes the nuclei thru the breached annulus (fiberous rings that

contain the nucleus) putting pressure on the nerve. the only cure is

time(usually a year) or micro surgery. ruptured in january, started

physical training in march and chiro in april. didn't get any worse

until jaw surgery and stresses made it flair up. i've got no real back

pain just sciatica which limits mobility. if after a year it's still

bad i'll have surgery cuz can't even hold down a job as it is now.

forces me to have too much asstime but hey i get to bone up on my

typing skills! eric

> > I agree with you susan. I have a chiro and MT for a blown disc in

> my

> > lower back. while I couldn't get adjustments to my neck or lie

face

> > down until the hardware was removed the neck work was great. then

> at 8

> > weeks a major kink in my neck was removed. while my back is still

> AFU

> > the trauma to my head and neck from surgery is gone. ps-as of last

> > year i think i now qualify a professional patient. eric

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they have a new procedure called microendoscopic disectomy where the

incision is only about the size of a dime. they can put a light,camera

retractor,and scissors in the tube and snip away the part of the disc

thats touching the nerve and best of all done under local. hope it

doesn't come to that but time will tell. already got my first no but

thats standard procedure to discourage surgery and let time try to

heal it. eric

> > > > I agree with you susan. I have a chiro and MT for a blown disc

> in

> > > my

> > > > lower back. while I couldn't get adjustments to my neck or lie

> > face

> > > > down until the hardware was removed the neck work was great.

> then

> > > at 8

> > > > weeks a major kink in my neck was removed. while my back is

> still

> > > AFU

> > > > the trauma to my head and neck from surgery is gone. ps-as of

> last

> > > > year i think i now qualify a professional patient. eric

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they have a new procedure called microendoscopic disectomy where the

incision is only about the size of a dime. they can put a light,camera

retractor,and scissors in the tube and snip away the part of the disc

thats touching the nerve and best of all done under local. hope it

doesn't come to that but time will tell. already got my first no but

thats standard procedure to discourage surgery and let time try to

heal it. eric

> > > > I agree with you susan. I have a chiro and MT for a blown disc

> in

> > > my

> > > > lower back. while I couldn't get adjustments to my neck or lie

> > face

> > > > down until the hardware was removed the neck work was great.

> then

> > > at 8

> > > > weeks a major kink in my neck was removed. while my back is

> still

> > > AFU

> > > > the trauma to my head and neck from surgery is gone. ps-as of

> last

> > > > year i think i now qualify a professional patient. eric

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only time will tell. if the pain goes away i'll be glad he said no.

for most people that is the case. but if it doesn't go away I'll be

disappointed i didn't get it done when i had the insurance to pay for

it. as i said i'm not working and my cobra has since run out. they go

in with a retractor to move the nerve aside while the cut the

protruding disc material out of the way and then cauterize it. should

be as good as new cuz the disc has already lost its moisture (which

they do as we age) and just won't be a shock absorber any more. good

thing it's on the bottom L5-S1. once the nerve is relieved I should

have reasonably normal function however i don't think i'll ever lift

again without first paying attention to what i'm doing. recovery is

painless and only a couple of weeks. first thing i'm gonna do is go

play a round of golf! eric

> > they have a new procedure called microendoscopic disectomy where

> the

> > incision is only about the size of a dime. they can put a

> light,camera

> > retractor,and scissors in the tube and snip away the part of the

> disc

> > thats touching the nerve and best of all done under local. hope it

> > doesn't come to that but time will tell. already got my first no

> but

> > thats standard procedure to discourage surgery and let time try to

> > heal it. eric

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only time will tell. if the pain goes away i'll be glad he said no.

for most people that is the case. but if it doesn't go away I'll be

disappointed i didn't get it done when i had the insurance to pay for

it. as i said i'm not working and my cobra has since run out. they go

in with a retractor to move the nerve aside while the cut the

protruding disc material out of the way and then cauterize it. should

be as good as new cuz the disc has already lost its moisture (which

they do as we age) and just won't be a shock absorber any more. good

thing it's on the bottom L5-S1. once the nerve is relieved I should

have reasonably normal function however i don't think i'll ever lift

again without first paying attention to what i'm doing. recovery is

painless and only a couple of weeks. first thing i'm gonna do is go

play a round of golf! eric

> > they have a new procedure called microendoscopic disectomy where

> the

> > incision is only about the size of a dime. they can put a

> light,camera

> > retractor,and scissors in the tube and snip away the part of the

> disc

> > thats touching the nerve and best of all done under local. hope it

> > doesn't come to that but time will tell. already got my first no

> but

> > thats standard procedure to discourage surgery and let time try to

> > heal it. eric

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