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Hello again everyone.

I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

etc.).

To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

that works before I have my surgery.

Thank you all,

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Hello again everyone.

I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

etc.).

To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

that works before I have my surgery.

Thank you all,

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Two possibilities:

I haven't used it yet myself, but I've heard that Gly-Oxide is great

for cleaning and speeding up the healing process. I'm getting braces

on soon and ordered some through Drugstore.com in preparation.

I've learned that regular toothpastes give me canker sores, so I only

use natural ones now, like Tom's of Maine. Doesn't sound like that's

your problem, but thought I'd mention it anyway. I don't know what the

ingredient is that bothers me, but it never fails if I use regular

toothpastes for a while. And I NEVER get them with Tom's.

Good luck, sounds miserable!

Luna

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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Two possibilities:

I haven't used it yet myself, but I've heard that Gly-Oxide is great

for cleaning and speeding up the healing process. I'm getting braces

on soon and ordered some through Drugstore.com in preparation.

I've learned that regular toothpastes give me canker sores, so I only

use natural ones now, like Tom's of Maine. Doesn't sound like that's

your problem, but thought I'd mention it anyway. I don't know what the

ingredient is that bothers me, but it never fails if I use regular

toothpastes for a while. And I NEVER get them with Tom's.

Good luck, sounds miserable!

Luna

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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I didn't have them, but several folks who did, badly, some time ago

suggested rinsing the mouth with either Maalox or Milk of Magnesia,

diluted considerably, several times a day. Anbesol, I think, is also

helpful.

Ask your ortho, and perhaps a trip to your regular physician is in

order, too. Just to see if he has any suggestions.

I'm figuring these are canker sores, and not cold sores, which are

different critters.

I think Fiddly also had good results from That fizzy stuff,

the name of which has just flown from my brain. Not the fizzy stuff

that is used to clean dentures, but another one -- ah! I'm thinking

Amosan.

Cammie

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip

to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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I didn't have them, but several folks who did, badly, some time ago

suggested rinsing the mouth with either Maalox or Milk of Magnesia,

diluted considerably, several times a day. Anbesol, I think, is also

helpful.

Ask your ortho, and perhaps a trip to your regular physician is in

order, too. Just to see if he has any suggestions.

I'm figuring these are canker sores, and not cold sores, which are

different critters.

I think Fiddly also had good results from That fizzy stuff,

the name of which has just flown from my brain. Not the fizzy stuff

that is used to clean dentures, but another one -- ah! I'm thinking

Amosan.

Cammie

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip

to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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i know this sounds insane, but i noticed i got canker sores every time i ate

chocolate. so, i stopped and only eat it occasionally.

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] canker sores - advice needed

>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:16:15 -0000

>

>Hello again everyone.

>

>I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

>more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

>time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

>inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

>swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

>had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

>etc.).

>

>To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

>have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

>things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

>to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

>that works before I have my surgery.

>

>Thank you all,

>

>

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i know this sounds insane, but i noticed i got canker sores every time i ate

chocolate. so, i stopped and only eat it occasionally.

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] canker sores - advice needed

>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:16:15 -0000

>

>Hello again everyone.

>

>I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

>more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the entire

>time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

>inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip to

>swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face! I've

>had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen glands,

>etc.).

>

>To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

>have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

>things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very difficult

>to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find something

>that works before I have my surgery.

>

>Thank you all,

>

>

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Hi ,

Canker sores are horrible. I get them pretty regularly, and braces

definitely caused me to have more of them.

First, if you're using a " regular " toothpaste like crest or colgate,

you need to switch to one that doesn't use lauryl sulfate (I think

that's the name of the foaming ingredient). I switched to Closys and

have noticed a marked decrease in the frequency of canker sores.

With braces, you need to use wax on every tender spot before they

can turn into sores. Once you have a sore forming, use wax day and

night at that spot to reduce irritation.

Now the cure that works for me - I use Zilactin. If you use it at

the very first sign of a sore, and I mean the same day that you even

suspect you're getting one, then it can significantly reduce the

duration of the sore. Before I started using Zilactin my sores would

take about 3 weeks to get better. With the zilactin they get better

in about 1 week or less. There are different versions of zilactin -

get the version that has benzyl alcohol. They have other versions

that don't have the alcohol, but those don't work for me. I suspect

the alcohol works as an antiseptic to kill the infection, which is

why the sore heals so much faster. Use the zilactin 3 times a day

and you should see fast improvement. If you wait too long to apply

it won't help very much - so it won't help with your current sores

unfortunately.

Good luck, and let me know if my advice helped.

--Neil

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip

to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very

difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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Hi ,

Canker sores are horrible. I get them pretty regularly, and braces

definitely caused me to have more of them.

First, if you're using a " regular " toothpaste like crest or colgate,

you need to switch to one that doesn't use lauryl sulfate (I think

that's the name of the foaming ingredient). I switched to Closys and

have noticed a marked decrease in the frequency of canker sores.

With braces, you need to use wax on every tender spot before they

can turn into sores. Once you have a sore forming, use wax day and

night at that spot to reduce irritation.

Now the cure that works for me - I use Zilactin. If you use it at

the very first sign of a sore, and I mean the same day that you even

suspect you're getting one, then it can significantly reduce the

duration of the sore. Before I started using Zilactin my sores would

take about 3 weeks to get better. With the zilactin they get better

in about 1 week or less. There are different versions of zilactin -

get the version that has benzyl alcohol. They have other versions

that don't have the alcohol, but those don't work for me. I suspect

the alcohol works as an antiseptic to kill the infection, which is

why the sore heals so much faster. Use the zilactin 3 times a day

and you should see fast improvement. If you wait too long to apply

it won't help very much - so it won't help with your current sores

unfortunately.

Good luck, and let me know if my advice helped.

--Neil

> Hello again everyone.

>

> I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a few

> more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

entire

> time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my lip

to

> swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

I've

> had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

glands,

> etc.).

>

> To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very

difficult

> to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

something

> that works before I have my surgery.

>

> Thank you all,

>

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I switched toothpaste and now use all one without the lauryl sulfate

(it's called Biotine or some other). I'm going to get some of the

Zilactin you mention - but is it prescription or OTC? I've never

heard of it before - is it specifically for canker sores or did you

just come across this via trial and error?

Thank you for all of your suggestions / advice.

> > Hello again everyone.

> >

> > I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a

few

> > more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

> entire

> > time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> > inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my

lip

> to

> > swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

> I've

> > had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

> glands,

> > etc.).

> >

> > To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> > have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> > things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very

> difficult

> > to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

> something

> > that works before I have my surgery.

> >

> > Thank you all,

> >

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I switched toothpaste and now use all one without the lauryl sulfate

(it's called Biotine or some other). I'm going to get some of the

Zilactin you mention - but is it prescription or OTC? I've never

heard of it before - is it specifically for canker sores or did you

just come across this via trial and error?

Thank you for all of your suggestions / advice.

> > Hello again everyone.

> >

> > I am in full braces and working my way towards surgery (only a

few

> > more months). I've had serious problems with canker sores the

> entire

> > time I've had braces. I woke up couple days ago with one on the

> > inside of my lower lip that was so large it actually caused my

lip

> to

> > swell to the point it looked like I had bees socked in the face!

> I've

> > had so many at once that they literally made me sick (swollen

> glands,

> > etc.).

> >

> > To the question - has anyone else out there had them this bad and

> > have any of you found anything that works to prevent / heal these

> > things. They are causing me extreme pain and make it very

> difficult

> > to eat / talk / kiss / etc. I'd really like to try to find

> something

> > that works before I have my surgery.

> >

> > Thank you all,

> >

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