Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 My daughter will be having surgery on 12/18. She is having left mandibular and maxofillio (whatever that means.) Her doctor said they don't wire mouths nowadays, but that bands are the more modern way to go. Not to mention, more comfortable for the patient. Either way, I wish us (as mothers,) the best of luck as we are indeed in for a few restless days and nights. Take care! WIRING OR NOT hI, iM NEW HERE, MY DAUGHTER WILL UPPER LA FORTE ON 12-20, JUST SAW OS AND TALKED ABOUT WIRING, HE SAID ALLOT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION OF THE BONE, IF ITS STRONG THEN THE PLATES WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH BUT IF THE BONE IS THIN.....THEN THE WIRING GIVES ADDED STABLILITY FOR THE HEALING, IT MADE SENSE TO ME. I PRAY MY DAUGHTER HAS GOOD BONES. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SHARING. MARY- -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " datlamb " <datlamb@y...> wrote: > > Believe me, they wire people shut....! I had upper/lower and genio > exactly a week ago and I am wired. SO wired. Carrying wirecutters > everywhere just in case (My OS says he never had this happen to any > patient in his career). > > I don't know the exact rationale here though > - from my previous posts with I think she did not have both > upper/lower > - undoubtedly there is an element of surgical style and preference > here. My OS did give me an explanation that I won't do justice to > whereby he says making the jaw totally rigid on a temporary basis > (wiring for 6 weeks) allows him to build (I know this sounds > paradoxical) some tolerance into his work rather than making the work > itself totally rigid (with more flexibility built in to the temporary > relationship). > > Either way (you find a great surgeon you trust and believe). I think > it would be wrong to suggest that wiring is either uncommon or " the > way they used to do it. " (BTW I had two second opinions in NYC and > with the Head of the Faculty in Atlanta before going ahead and all 3 > doctors told me that they would wire me shut). Because clinical > judgement will, I am sure, be the biggest variable here. No-one would > wire you shut unless they were convinced it was the way to do it for > you. > > So far (only one week) it's not been scary. Difficult for lots of > practical reasons but not scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > am just tightly > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > reminds me I am > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > always been true for > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > But its > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > and your surgeon > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 My daughter will be having surgery on 12/18. She is having left mandibular and maxofillio (whatever that means.) Her doctor said they don't wire mouths nowadays, but that bands are the more modern way to go. Not to mention, more comfortable for the patient. Either way, I wish us (as mothers,) the best of luck as we are indeed in for a few restless days and nights. Take care! WIRING OR NOT hI, iM NEW HERE, MY DAUGHTER WILL UPPER LA FORTE ON 12-20, JUST SAW OS AND TALKED ABOUT WIRING, HE SAID ALLOT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION OF THE BONE, IF ITS STRONG THEN THE PLATES WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH BUT IF THE BONE IS THIN.....THEN THE WIRING GIVES ADDED STABLILITY FOR THE HEALING, IT MADE SENSE TO ME. I PRAY MY DAUGHTER HAS GOOD BONES. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SHARING. MARY- -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " datlamb " <datlamb@y...> wrote: > > Believe me, they wire people shut....! I had upper/lower and genio > exactly a week ago and I am wired. SO wired. Carrying wirecutters > everywhere just in case (My OS says he never had this happen to any > patient in his career). > > I don't know the exact rationale here though > - from my previous posts with I think she did not have both > upper/lower > - undoubtedly there is an element of surgical style and preference > here. My OS did give me an explanation that I won't do justice to > whereby he says making the jaw totally rigid on a temporary basis > (wiring for 6 weeks) allows him to build (I know this sounds > paradoxical) some tolerance into his work rather than making the work > itself totally rigid (with more flexibility built in to the temporary > relationship). > > Either way (you find a great surgeon you trust and believe). I think > it would be wrong to suggest that wiring is either uncommon or " the > way they used to do it. " (BTW I had two second opinions in NYC and > with the Head of the Faculty in Atlanta before going ahead and all 3 > doctors told me that they would wire me shut). Because clinical > judgement will, I am sure, be the biggest variable here. No-one would > wire you shut unless they were convinced it was the way to do it for > you. > > So far (only one week) it's not been scary. Difficult for lots of > practical reasons but not scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > am just tightly > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > reminds me I am > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > always been true for > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > But its > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > and your surgeon > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Can I just repeat, Boy do they still wire jaws! In my case - upper,lower,genio, the OS clinical recommendation (in line with 2 other consults) was to wire. THis approach allows for natural healing in the lower jaw. I really think this varies patient by patient. But I think it is wrong to suggest that wiring is 'old-fashioned " . Just " the right thing to do in some cases and/or the preference of some surgeons. " Good luck. I really wish I had had my mom with me.... D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > > am just tightly > > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > > reminds me I am > > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > > always been true for > > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > > But its > > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > > and your surgeon > > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Can I just repeat, Boy do they still wire jaws! In my case - upper,lower,genio, the OS clinical recommendation (in line with 2 other consults) was to wire. THis approach allows for natural healing in the lower jaw. I really think this varies patient by patient. But I think it is wrong to suggest that wiring is 'old-fashioned " . Just " the right thing to do in some cases and/or the preference of some surgeons. " Good luck. I really wish I had had my mom with me.... D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > > am just tightly > > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > > reminds me I am > > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > > always been true for > > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > > But its > > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > > and your surgeon > > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I too pray that you guys and myself. :#) When is the surgery? Sadie meadowlark101 wrote: hI, iM NEW HERE, MY DAUGHTER WILL UPPER LA FORTE ON 12-20, JUST SAW OS AND TALKED ABOUT WIRING, HE SAID ALLOT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION OF THE BONE, IF ITS STRONG THEN THE PLATES WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH BUT IF THE BONE IS THIN.....THEN THE WIRING GIVES ADDED STABLILITY FOR THE HEALING, IT MADE SENSE TO ME. I PRAY MY DAUGHTER HAS GOOD BONES. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SHARING. MARY- -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " datlamb " <datlamb@y...> wrote: > > Believe me, they wire people shut....! I had upper/lower and genio > exactly a week ago and I am wired. SO wired. Carrying wirecutters > everywhere just in case (My OS says he never had this happen to any > patient in his career). > > I don't know the exact rationale here though > - from my previous posts with I think she did not have both > upper/lower > - undoubtedly there is an element of surgical style and preference > here. My OS did give me an explanation that I won't do justice to > whereby he says making the jaw totally rigid on a temporary basis > (wiring for 6 weeks) allows him to build (I know this sounds > paradoxical) some tolerance into his work rather than making the work > itself totally rigid (with more flexibility built in to the temporary > relationship). > > Either way (you find a great surgeon you trust and believe). I think > it would be wrong to suggest that wiring is either uncommon or " the > way they used to do it. " (BTW I had two second opinions in NYC and > with the Head of the Faculty in Atlanta before going ahead and all 3 > doctors told me that they would wire me shut). Because clinical > judgement will, I am sure, be the biggest variable here. No-one would > wire you shut unless they were convinced it was the way to do it for > you. > > So far (only one week) it's not been scary. Difficult for lots of > practical reasons but not scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > am just tightly > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > reminds me I am > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > always been true for > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > But its > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > and your surgeon > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I too pray that you guys and myself. :#) When is the surgery? Sadie meadowlark101 wrote: hI, iM NEW HERE, MY DAUGHTER WILL UPPER LA FORTE ON 12-20, JUST SAW OS AND TALKED ABOUT WIRING, HE SAID ALLOT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION OF THE BONE, IF ITS STRONG THEN THE PLATES WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH BUT IF THE BONE IS THIN.....THEN THE WIRING GIVES ADDED STABLILITY FOR THE HEALING, IT MADE SENSE TO ME. I PRAY MY DAUGHTER HAS GOOD BONES. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SHARING. MARY- -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " datlamb " <datlamb@y...> wrote: > > Believe me, they wire people shut....! I had upper/lower and genio > exactly a week ago and I am wired. SO wired. Carrying wirecutters > everywhere just in case (My OS says he never had this happen to any > patient in his career). > > I don't know the exact rationale here though > - from my previous posts with I think she did not have both > upper/lower > - undoubtedly there is an element of surgical style and preference > here. My OS did give me an explanation that I won't do justice to > whereby he says making the jaw totally rigid on a temporary basis > (wiring for 6 weeks) allows him to build (I know this sounds > paradoxical) some tolerance into his work rather than making the work > itself totally rigid (with more flexibility built in to the temporary > relationship). > > Either way (you find a great surgeon you trust and believe). I think > it would be wrong to suggest that wiring is either uncommon or " the > way they used to do it. " (BTW I had two second opinions in NYC and > with the Head of the Faculty in Atlanta before going ahead and all 3 > doctors told me that they would wire me shut). Because clinical > judgement will, I am sure, be the biggest variable here. No-one would > wire you shut unless they were convinced it was the way to do it for > you. > > So far (only one week) it's not been scary. Difficult for lots of > practical reasons but not scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > am just tightly > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > reminds me I am > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > always been true for > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > But its > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > and your surgeon > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 My interpretation of the terms is that they're doing work on the left upper (maxilla) and the left lower (mandible). But do ask the doctor to explain, because I am only a lay person. My doc used a model of a skull and showed me just where he'd make the cuts. My doc generally doesn't wire folks shut any more, either -- but if you'll read these boards a bit, you'll find that many surgeons still do. I'm glad I didn't have to go through that. I think also that what happens in the operating room can change the approach, with regard to wiring/banding -- or nothing. Good wishes to you and your daughter! Cammie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > > am just tightly > > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > > reminds me I am > > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > > always been true for > > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > > But its > > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > > and your surgeon > > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 My interpretation of the terms is that they're doing work on the left upper (maxilla) and the left lower (mandible). But do ask the doctor to explain, because I am only a lay person. My doc used a model of a skull and showed me just where he'd make the cuts. My doc generally doesn't wire folks shut any more, either -- but if you'll read these boards a bit, you'll find that many surgeons still do. I'm glad I didn't have to go through that. I think also that what happens in the operating room can change the approach, with regard to wiring/banding -- or nothing. Good wishes to you and your daughter! Cammie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dani, > > > > > > > > > > Funny to hear you say you look forward to bands. I > > > > > am just tightly > > > > > banded shut now, and it's no picnic for sure. But it > > > > > reminds me I am > > > > > indeed fortunate. > > > > > > > > > > Nights are definitely harder than days. This has > > > > > always been true for > > > > > me. My mom has even called me a child of the light > > > > > But its > > > > > certainly very true these days! > > > > > > > > > > Hang in there...I'll be sending good thoughts at you > > > > > and your surgeon > > > > > on Thursday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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