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>>Does this sound familiar to any of you??????<<

Oh yeah.

Rosemary, one of the things I noticed about recovering from plastics is that

to battle the fatigue I would reach for sugar. It's that old " I need a little

energy " thing that of course defeats itself in the end. I really had to bear

down and get off the sugar; it was so easy to have it.

I'm glad you are walking; that will help. Make sure when you go for your

next round of plastics that you have plenty of easy-to-grab, NONsweet snacks

around so you have some options. You'll be tired and ready to just eat the

easiest thing. Make sure it's not sweet.

I bought some ready made protein shakes (EAS carb control, chocolate) and put

them in the freezer for an easy treat. I know this probably degraded the

protein somewhat but it was still better than sugar!!

Keep at it; you will figure this out.

hugs,

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>>Does this sound familiar to any of you??????<<

Oh yeah.

Rosemary, one of the things I noticed about recovering from plastics is that

to battle the fatigue I would reach for sugar. It's that old " I need a little

energy " thing that of course defeats itself in the end. I really had to bear

down and get off the sugar; it was so easy to have it.

I'm glad you are walking; that will help. Make sure when you go for your

next round of plastics that you have plenty of easy-to-grab, NONsweet snacks

around so you have some options. You'll be tired and ready to just eat the

easiest thing. Make sure it's not sweet.

I bought some ready made protein shakes (EAS carb control, chocolate) and put

them in the freezer for an easy treat. I know this probably degraded the

protein somewhat but it was still better than sugar!!

Keep at it; you will figure this out.

hugs,

Ann

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Rosemary --

We're in the same boat, somewhat. I've been home recovering from full

panniculectomy since 2/14. I got home on 2/15 weighing 184 (not having eaten

for 48 hours). I weigh myself daily, as I have to. It's a must. I'm one of

those that won't let it get away from me, as that works for me. That's how I

got to initially 314, 2-1/2 years ago. Stopped looking at that damn scale at

200, then boom, like overnight, I was 314.

Anyway, I realize I'm swollen still and will be for months. I realize that I

still have one drainage tube still draining. HOWEVER, I also realize that I

have gained weight, probably from sitting on my butt, and am bored, AND am

able to eat Girl Scout cookies that recently arrived. Or, 1/2 a sandwich.

Or, something else. I'm not working, and I'm not busy. I'm just hanging

out,so to speak.

Yes, I admit it. I have been a bad girl, however, still weighing myself

daily, then actually having the gall to complain about why have I gained

weight, and why do I now weight 191 (the exact weight I went into the

hospital at on 2/14 BEFORE my panni)!! Aaarrrggghhhh!!!

Okay, I'm trying to be serious but keep a sense of humor about it, as I jump

on and off the scale. =) I know what to do, I know how to do it, I just

NEED TO DO IT. No excuses. Protein, protein, protein, water, water, water,

and move my body.

There. I said it. So yes, Rosemary, your story sounds all too familiar to

me!! Good luck and, as we say up here, you know what to do, so just " mush

on. "

Good luck, my dear, and get well. I'm there right beside you.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/24/03 6:39:26 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:18:20 -0000

<<How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

and then go for something. >>

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Rosemary --

We're in the same boat, somewhat. I've been home recovering from full

panniculectomy since 2/14. I got home on 2/15 weighing 184 (not having eaten

for 48 hours). I weigh myself daily, as I have to. It's a must. I'm one of

those that won't let it get away from me, as that works for me. That's how I

got to initially 314, 2-1/2 years ago. Stopped looking at that damn scale at

200, then boom, like overnight, I was 314.

Anyway, I realize I'm swollen still and will be for months. I realize that I

still have one drainage tube still draining. HOWEVER, I also realize that I

have gained weight, probably from sitting on my butt, and am bored, AND am

able to eat Girl Scout cookies that recently arrived. Or, 1/2 a sandwich.

Or, something else. I'm not working, and I'm not busy. I'm just hanging

out,so to speak.

Yes, I admit it. I have been a bad girl, however, still weighing myself

daily, then actually having the gall to complain about why have I gained

weight, and why do I now weight 191 (the exact weight I went into the

hospital at on 2/14 BEFORE my panni)!! Aaarrrggghhhh!!!

Okay, I'm trying to be serious but keep a sense of humor about it, as I jump

on and off the scale. =) I know what to do, I know how to do it, I just

NEED TO DO IT. No excuses. Protein, protein, protein, water, water, water,

and move my body.

There. I said it. So yes, Rosemary, your story sounds all too familiar to

me!! Good luck and, as we say up here, you know what to do, so just " mush

on. "

Good luck, my dear, and get well. I'm there right beside you.

Bobbie

Anchorage

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<< Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:18:20 -0000

<<How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

and then go for something. >>

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Rosemary,

This sounds very familiar. The first year post-op, I was losing weight in

spite of all the " bad " things I ate. Very little exercise, I felt

invincible.

Now here I am, 18 months out and still not at goal. I have to " diet " to get

the scale to move. A very big slap in the face.

I try not to buy all the cookies and stuff, but I have a husband and 3 teens

that don't need the deprivation. One could argue that they don't need it

either, but I often bring the stuff home.

I find that " keeping myself away " from a food makes it an obsession that I

can't resist. I now try to keep " safer " snacks available. Keto makes a

cookie that is high protein and low carb. Still a fair amount of calories,

but at least has some nutritional benefit. I don't feel guilty indulging in

them. I also use sugar-free candy. Some folks have trouble with the sugar

substitutes causing worse cravings, but it works for me. I use these things

for desserts after meals. This helps me limit the amount I can eat and the

sweet lets my brain know the meal is over.

This is what works for me.

Good luck to you

Margie in NM

RNY 9-7-01

252/129ish

Hi, need help

> I haven't posted since the 14th, but haven't received any answer to

> anything I write anymore. I have been going for the sweets too often

> now and since I have had my arms done and then the infection, I have

> put on weight. It doesn't seeem to want to go down, I try to stay

> away from the cookies and candy but go so far along into the day, but

> then I give in and take something and it triggers off that thing of

> going back for more. I really do not want to gain, after all I have

> been through to get to this point, I wanted to keep going down in

> weight, but now that it started to go up I am afraid where will it

> reach. I am scheduled to do my breast lift on May 2, and I am afraid

> after that I will be all swollen again and it will even add more.

>

> We all know what we should have and what to do, but when I am

> taking cookies or candy I say this little bite isn't going to matter.

> But it doesn't end up with just that one bite.

>

> How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

> while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

> and then go for something. Today, I made myself get out and went for

> a walk, I haven't started exercise for a long time, so for now I said

> even if I go around the block once and each day add a couple of more

> steps it should get me started again. I will go again tomorrow. I

> need to do it for myself I know that. No one can make me do it, but

> sometime it is much easier to say Oh not now I wait and start another

> day. That day never comes.

>

> Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

>

> Help,

> Rosemary

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary,

This sounds very familiar. The first year post-op, I was losing weight in

spite of all the " bad " things I ate. Very little exercise, I felt

invincible.

Now here I am, 18 months out and still not at goal. I have to " diet " to get

the scale to move. A very big slap in the face.

I try not to buy all the cookies and stuff, but I have a husband and 3 teens

that don't need the deprivation. One could argue that they don't need it

either, but I often bring the stuff home.

I find that " keeping myself away " from a food makes it an obsession that I

can't resist. I now try to keep " safer " snacks available. Keto makes a

cookie that is high protein and low carb. Still a fair amount of calories,

but at least has some nutritional benefit. I don't feel guilty indulging in

them. I also use sugar-free candy. Some folks have trouble with the sugar

substitutes causing worse cravings, but it works for me. I use these things

for desserts after meals. This helps me limit the amount I can eat and the

sweet lets my brain know the meal is over.

This is what works for me.

Good luck to you

Margie in NM

RNY 9-7-01

252/129ish

Hi, need help

> I haven't posted since the 14th, but haven't received any answer to

> anything I write anymore. I have been going for the sweets too often

> now and since I have had my arms done and then the infection, I have

> put on weight. It doesn't seeem to want to go down, I try to stay

> away from the cookies and candy but go so far along into the day, but

> then I give in and take something and it triggers off that thing of

> going back for more. I really do not want to gain, after all I have

> been through to get to this point, I wanted to keep going down in

> weight, but now that it started to go up I am afraid where will it

> reach. I am scheduled to do my breast lift on May 2, and I am afraid

> after that I will be all swollen again and it will even add more.

>

> We all know what we should have and what to do, but when I am

> taking cookies or candy I say this little bite isn't going to matter.

> But it doesn't end up with just that one bite.

>

> How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

> while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

> and then go for something. Today, I made myself get out and went for

> a walk, I haven't started exercise for a long time, so for now I said

> even if I go around the block once and each day add a couple of more

> steps it should get me started again. I will go again tomorrow. I

> need to do it for myself I know that. No one can make me do it, but

> sometime it is much easier to say Oh not now I wait and start another

> day. That day never comes.

>

> Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

>

> Help,

> Rosemary

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary,

This does sound very familiar. I am really hoping that being

able to go swimming this spring/summer will help with the weight loss.

It is totally frustrating. I don't really have any suggestions. I

suppose that is why I haven't really responded before. If you find

something that works, let me know.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:18:20 -0000 " rocommisso1 "

writes:

> I haven't posted since the 14th, but haven't received any answer to

> anything I write anymore. I have been going for the sweets too often

>

> now and since I have had my arms done and then the infection, I have

>

> put on weight. It doesn't seeem to want to go down, I try to stay

> away from the cookies and candy but go so far along into the day,

> but

> then I give in and take something and it triggers off that thing of

>

> going back for more. I really do not want to gain, after all I have

>

> been through to get to this point, I wanted to keep going down in

> weight, but now that it started to go up I am afraid where will it

> reach. I am scheduled to do my breast lift on May 2, and I am

> afraid

> after that I will be all swollen again and it will even add more.

>

> We all know what we should have and what to do, but when I am

> taking cookies or candy I say this little bite isn't going to

> matter.

> But it doesn't end up with just that one bite.

>

> How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

>

> while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

> and then go for something. Today, I made myself get out and went

> for

> a walk, I haven't started exercise for a long time, so for now I

> said

> even if I go around the block once and each day add a couple of more

>

> steps it should get me started again. I will go again tomorrow. I

>

> need to do it for myself I know that. No one can make me do it, but

>

> sometime it is much easier to say Oh not now I wait and start

> another

> day. That day never comes.

>

> Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

>

> Help,

> Rosemary

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary,

This does sound very familiar. I am really hoping that being

able to go swimming this spring/summer will help with the weight loss.

It is totally frustrating. I don't really have any suggestions. I

suppose that is why I haven't really responded before. If you find

something that works, let me know.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:18:20 -0000 " rocommisso1 "

writes:

> I haven't posted since the 14th, but haven't received any answer to

> anything I write anymore. I have been going for the sweets too often

>

> now and since I have had my arms done and then the infection, I have

>

> put on weight. It doesn't seeem to want to go down, I try to stay

> away from the cookies and candy but go so far along into the day,

> but

> then I give in and take something and it triggers off that thing of

>

> going back for more. I really do not want to gain, after all I have

>

> been through to get to this point, I wanted to keep going down in

> weight, but now that it started to go up I am afraid where will it

> reach. I am scheduled to do my breast lift on May 2, and I am

> afraid

> after that I will be all swollen again and it will even add more.

>

> We all know what we should have and what to do, but when I am

> taking cookies or candy I say this little bite isn't going to

> matter.

> But it doesn't end up with just that one bite.

>

> How can I get back on track, I know that I have been in a good

>

> while from not feeling good and I get bored and end up watching TV

> and then go for something. Today, I made myself get out and went

> for

> a walk, I haven't started exercise for a long time, so for now I

> said

> even if I go around the block once and each day add a couple of more

>

> steps it should get me started again. I will go again tomorrow. I

>

> need to do it for myself I know that. No one can make me do it, but

>

> sometime it is much easier to say Oh not now I wait and start

> another

> day. That day never comes.

>

> Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

>

> Help,

> Rosemary

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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It sounds all too familiar. I always have the best intentions, then when I

don't do what I intended to do...I beat myself up over it, instead of just

forgiving myself and continue on. It seems to be a vicious cycle. Funny,

though, once I get into the HABIT (hopefully a GOOD ONE) I am almost

compulsive about it..but once that habit is broken....then I have the WORST

time getting back into the swing of things.

Debbie in Gig Harbor (170cm medial)

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Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

Help,

Rosemary

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It sounds all too familiar. I always have the best intentions, then when I

don't do what I intended to do...I beat myself up over it, instead of just

forgiving myself and continue on. It seems to be a vicious cycle. Funny,

though, once I get into the HABIT (hopefully a GOOD ONE) I am almost

compulsive about it..but once that habit is broken....then I have the WORST

time getting back into the swing of things.

Debbie in Gig Harbor (170cm medial)

ladybostons@...

http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore

-----Original Message-----

From: rocommisso1

Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

Help,

Rosemary

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>

> Help,

> Rosemary

Unfortunately " ALL " to familiar Rosemary. I have been putting an incredible

amount of thought into this lately. Mostly because I am in the same boat!!

I have been thinking back to a comment one of my older sisters said to me

about a year ago......I was complaining to her about the lack of weight

loss, and the fact that I was back to square one with the " obsession " of

having to diet. Her reply was " wow, so this surgery wasn't the magic pill

after all! " I was floored, I didn't realize that I had been (I thought

secretly) portraying and hoping that this surgery would be just that. I

tried NOT to portray it as that......all the while reciting my " mantra " to

any one who would listen.....you know the way it goes..... " this surgery is

NOT a magic pill, cure-all......it is a TOOL, it has to be worked!! " I

guess I was saying it, but not really understanding fully what that meant.

I have come to realize that for me anyway this " tool " was a means to get

" thinner " but it not going to be of much use to me from here on out. I am a

" grazer " ......amounts have never been my problem.....frequency is, I don't

easily dump!! I keep waiting for someone to post about the

" answer " .....every time someone post a please help question I sit and hold

my breath waiting for the magical response. But, much like I

suspected........there isn't one....or I guess there is........it just isn't

as " effortless " as I had secretly hoped for :) I have come to the

conclusion that this battle is going to have to be fought for the rest of my

life.......EVERY single living breathing moment.......I must admit, this was

a very depressing realization for me!! But, once I started to realize this

it freed me up to not be perfect, to relax and make a battle plan.......to

see the " answer " rather than keep looking for it. I saw that for me anyway

the answer was actually the same as it was before surgery and the same

answer that is seen here over and over........protein, exercise, vitamins,

water and NO JUNK (refined carbs!!) I keep thinking about what my pastor

always says....... " you don't have to win every battle to win the

war " .......I am trying to make that my new mantra........I still struggle

horrible with the idea that there isn't going to be an end to this

struggle.....but knowing that there isn't has also helped me to not panic

during my weaker moments......to help myself see that I may have bad days or

even weeks.......but that I don't believe that I would ever allow myself to

go back to the MO person I was! That I am going to be able to build up that

resolve again.....just not always on que. Oh well, now this has gotten sooo

long and probably makes no sense (I tend to babble out loud.)

signed.......a fellow warrior :) P.

Hi, need help

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Does this sound familiar to any of you??????

>

> Help,

> Rosemary

Unfortunately " ALL " to familiar Rosemary. I have been putting an incredible

amount of thought into this lately. Mostly because I am in the same boat!!

I have been thinking back to a comment one of my older sisters said to me

about a year ago......I was complaining to her about the lack of weight

loss, and the fact that I was back to square one with the " obsession " of

having to diet. Her reply was " wow, so this surgery wasn't the magic pill

after all! " I was floored, I didn't realize that I had been (I thought

secretly) portraying and hoping that this surgery would be just that. I

tried NOT to portray it as that......all the while reciting my " mantra " to

any one who would listen.....you know the way it goes..... " this surgery is

NOT a magic pill, cure-all......it is a TOOL, it has to be worked!! " I

guess I was saying it, but not really understanding fully what that meant.

I have come to realize that for me anyway this " tool " was a means to get

" thinner " but it not going to be of much use to me from here on out. I am a

" grazer " ......amounts have never been my problem.....frequency is, I don't

easily dump!! I keep waiting for someone to post about the

" answer " .....every time someone post a please help question I sit and hold

my breath waiting for the magical response. But, much like I

suspected........there isn't one....or I guess there is........it just isn't

as " effortless " as I had secretly hoped for :) I have come to the

conclusion that this battle is going to have to be fought for the rest of my

life.......EVERY single living breathing moment.......I must admit, this was

a very depressing realization for me!! But, once I started to realize this

it freed me up to not be perfect, to relax and make a battle plan.......to

see the " answer " rather than keep looking for it. I saw that for me anyway

the answer was actually the same as it was before surgery and the same

answer that is seen here over and over........protein, exercise, vitamins,

water and NO JUNK (refined carbs!!) I keep thinking about what my pastor

always says....... " you don't have to win every battle to win the

war " .......I am trying to make that my new mantra........I still struggle

horrible with the idea that there isn't going to be an end to this

struggle.....but knowing that there isn't has also helped me to not panic

during my weaker moments......to help myself see that I may have bad days or

even weeks.......but that I don't believe that I would ever allow myself to

go back to the MO person I was! That I am going to be able to build up that

resolve again.....just not always on que. Oh well, now this has gotten sooo

long and probably makes no sense (I tend to babble out loud.)

signed.......a fellow warrior :) P.

Hi, need help

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In a message dated 3/25/03 8:22:17 AM Central Standard Time, nanpug@...

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<< Her reply was " wow, so this surgery wasn't the magic pill

after all! " I was floored, I didn't realize that I had been (I thought

secretly) portraying and hoping that this surgery would be just that. >>

,

This hit me right between the eyes. I think we all harbor that secret

hope and are down right ticked off that we didn't get a magic pill. I think

your statement is right on target and really helpful for those who are

several years out and MAD and disappointed that they have to work this " tool "

so DAMNED hard!

Thank you for putting this into words for me to see.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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In a message dated 3/25/03 8:22:17 AM Central Standard Time, nanpug@...

writes:

<< Her reply was " wow, so this surgery wasn't the magic pill

after all! " I was floored, I didn't realize that I had been (I thought

secretly) portraying and hoping that this surgery would be just that. >>

,

This hit me right between the eyes. I think we all harbor that secret

hope and are down right ticked off that we didn't get a magic pill. I think

your statement is right on target and really helpful for those who are

several years out and MAD and disappointed that they have to work this " tool "

so DAMNED hard!

Thank you for putting this into words for me to see.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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ditto on Bobbie response.

Water, water, water, protein, protein, protein, move, move, move.

Sugar is a drug and we become addicted very easily. Not a tough one

to get off of (no sweats, no tremors, no nausea).

Remember those famous words we were all told at the beginning

" this is just a tool "

It you don't use it, it won't work

Good luck.. take care of yourself

CAT

232/107

2/5/2002 Dr Alvarado

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ditto on Bobbie response.

Water, water, water, protein, protein, protein, move, move, move.

Sugar is a drug and we become addicted very easily. Not a tough one

to get off of (no sweats, no tremors, no nausea).

Remember those famous words we were all told at the beginning

" this is just a tool "

It you don't use it, it won't work

Good luck.. take care of yourself

CAT

232/107

2/5/2002 Dr Alvarado

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