Re: To Liz - the elephant with the tailight person

[Guest guest]

I'm gonna wade into this again because you're taking issue with a

good friend of mine.

Cammie is one of the most generous and helpful people on this board.

It's just not accurate to suggest that she is discouraging people

from posting here. This board has benefited greatly from her caring

and compassionate posts. Yes, she often does suggest that people

contact their surgeon, as do I. But as I said before, that's one

opinion, others are free to make their own suggestions.

If you want to take some more pot shots, you can fire them at me, but

please, let's do it off the board. And yes, my tone is quite serious.

> Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or message

> boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there is

> nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

To

> encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to do

> but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

thats

> a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

have

> that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

away "

> and thats it.

>

> Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

I'm gonna wade into this again because you're taking issue with a

good friend of mine.

Cammie is one of the most generous and helpful people on this board.

It's just not accurate to suggest that she is discouraging people

from posting here. This board has benefited greatly from her caring

and compassionate posts. Yes, she often does suggest that people

contact their surgeon, as do I. But as I said before, that's one

opinion, others are free to make their own suggestions.

If you want to take some more pot shots, you can fire them at me, but

please, let's do it off the board. And yes, my tone is quite serious.

> Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or message

> boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there is

> nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

To

> encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to do

> but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

thats

> a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

have

> that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

away "

> and thats it.

>

> Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

and clearly you havn't read a single thing I have written are reading

what I have written with a very negative tone to which I can not

control as that is your choice and yours alone. there were absolutly

NO pot shots except yours. And again there is nothing wrong with

suggesting a person call their surgeon however saying the person NOT

post on the communtiy well that is wrong.

so lets all grow up a little and become a little less senstive and

defensive, as far as I was concerned this issue was over. you appear

to say people are entilted to their own opinions--then why on earth

are you attacking me and my opinions???????????????? esepcially since

it doesn't concern you.

I would appreciate if you stop making trouble where there is none,

where its not warranted,or needed.

> > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

message

> > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

is

> > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

> To

> > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

do

> > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> thats

> > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

> have

> > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> away "

> > and thats it.

> >

> > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

and clearly you havn't read a single thing I have written are reading

what I have written with a very negative tone to which I can not

control as that is your choice and yours alone. there were absolutly

NO pot shots except yours. And again there is nothing wrong with

suggesting a person call their surgeon however saying the person NOT

post on the communtiy well that is wrong.

so lets all grow up a little and become a little less senstive and

defensive, as far as I was concerned this issue was over. you appear

to say people are entilted to their own opinions--then why on earth

are you attacking me and my opinions???????????????? esepcially since

it doesn't concern you.

I would appreciate if you stop making trouble where there is none,

where its not warranted,or needed.

> > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

message

> > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

is

> > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

> To

> > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

do

> > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> thats

> > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

> have

> > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> away "

> > and thats it.

> >

> > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. this board wasn't made as a place to point

fingers. it was made as a place to share experiences, thoughts, and

for support. everyone has their own opinion and unique experience to

share...that's what i really love about it. you get to see things

from all different angles and views. all i've seen since i joined

this board a couple months ago is a group of people who wants to help

everyone else out. some people's suggestions and methods are

different than others. but i appreciate all of them. i think

everyone on this board means well and those looking for answers and

support are very lucky to have all these people here. i know i

appreciate everyone's input!!

Tom

> > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

message

> > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

is

> > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

> To

> > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

do

> > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> thats

> > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

> have

> > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> away "

> > and thats it.

> >

> > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. this board wasn't made as a place to point

fingers. it was made as a place to share experiences, thoughts, and

for support. everyone has their own opinion and unique experience to

share...that's what i really love about it. you get to see things

from all different angles and views. all i've seen since i joined

this board a couple months ago is a group of people who wants to help

everyone else out. some people's suggestions and methods are

different than others. but i appreciate all of them. i think

everyone on this board means well and those looking for answers and

support are very lucky to have all these people here. i know i

appreciate everyone's input!!

Tom

> > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

message

> > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

is

> > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor, however

> > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > discourage a person from posting on the board is not appropriete.

> To

> > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

do

> > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> thats

> > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else doesn't

> have

> > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> away "

> > and thats it.

> >

> > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend it.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Tom.

This person apparently has some unrelieved hostilities. I don't, and

I think you don't, so we'll all weather this stuff. I am not gonna

answer again, as I apparently trigger her, um, difficulties, and she

definitly pushes my buttons, although I have tried to " make nice. "

Clearly I can't help her, and she isn't doing much for me.

But I hope you're not distracted from your healing proceedures by all

this poop. It's insignificant in the scheme of things. I just wasn't

ready to curl up (although my hubby and I have had major medical

troubles this week) and subside...

Take care, heal well and be of good cheer, as am I, and grateful for

the blessings we have received.

Cammie

> > > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

> message

> > > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

> is

> > > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor,

however

> > > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > > discourage a person from posting on the board is not

appropriete.

> > To

> > > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

> do

> > > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> > thats

> > > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else

doesn't

> > have

> > > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> > away "

> > > and thats it.

> > >

> > > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend

it.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Tom.

This person apparently has some unrelieved hostilities. I don't, and

I think you don't, so we'll all weather this stuff. I am not gonna

answer again, as I apparently trigger her, um, difficulties, and she

definitly pushes my buttons, although I have tried to " make nice. "

Clearly I can't help her, and she isn't doing much for me.

But I hope you're not distracted from your healing proceedures by all

this poop. It's insignificant in the scheme of things. I just wasn't

ready to curl up (although my hubby and I have had major medical

troubles this week) and subside...

Take care, heal well and be of good cheer, as am I, and grateful for

the blessings we have received.

Cammie

> > > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

> message

> > > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

> is

> > > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor,

however

> > > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > > discourage a person from posting on the board is not

appropriete.

> > To

> > > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

> do

> > > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> > thats

> > > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else

doesn't

> > have

> > > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> > away "

> > > and thats it.

> > >

> > > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend

it.

[Guest guest]

Liz, you chose to personally flame me on private e-mail, which I

requested, in order to get this type of thing off this board. Then in

a second private e-mail to me, you told me that you were " blocking my

e-mail address " so I couldn't respond to you. So why are you now

carrying on about it again?

Please, let it go. I have. We've all said what needs to be said, and

more. Let's move on.

> > > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

> message

> > > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

> is

> > > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor,

however

> > > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > > discourage a person from posting on the board is not

appropriete.

> > To

> > > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

> do

> > > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> > thats

> > > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else

doesn't

> > have

> > > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> > away "

> > > and thats it.

> > >

> > > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend

it.

[Guest guest]

Liz, you chose to personally flame me on private e-mail, which I

requested, in order to get this type of thing off this board. Then in

a second private e-mail to me, you told me that you were " blocking my

e-mail address " so I couldn't respond to you. So why are you now

carrying on about it again?

Please, let it go. I have. We've all said what needs to be said, and

more. Let's move on.

> > > Sometimes it is hard to convey what one means in e-mail or

> message

> > > boards because you can not read tone or faicial gestures. there

> is

> > > nothing wrong with suggesting a person call their doctor,

however

> > > what is said and how it is said are two diffrent things. To

> > > discourage a person from posting on the board is not

appropriete.

> > To

> > > encourage a person to call their doctor is the correct thing to

> do

> > > but adding on the bit about not posting it on the board---well

> > thats

> > > a differnt matter. How are you to know that someone else

doesn't

> > have

> > > that same problem. all that needed to be said was " hey, thats

> > > something that sounds rather odd you need to call your DR right

> > away "

> > > and thats it.

> > >

> > > Do with your time as you wish it is not up to me how you spend

it.