Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 My sincere condolences to you and your whole family....and may this always be a " special " day for all of you....and dear to your heart.... Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Debbie, all my love and prayers to you, your family and especially Cyn and Donna Rose. You are a wonderful mother and grandmother. I'm not an overly religious person, but your grandbaby's with God, and she's happy and healthy now. Much love, in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Debbie, all my love and prayers to you, your family and especially Cyn and Donna Rose. You are a wonderful mother and grandmother. I'm not an overly religious person, but your grandbaby's with God, and she's happy and healthy now. Much love, in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Dear Debby, I am so sorry to hear about the baby. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Dear Debby, I am so sorry to hear about the baby. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 In a message dated 3/13/03 3:39:30 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes: << OT Cyns baby Dona Rose >> from one grandmother to another Debby, when things calm a bit, please feel free to contact me privately. Thank you so much for telling us. I have no doubt the gates of heaven flew open for this little one Dona Rose. This is my two cent's worth for now: Keep an eye on your daughters temperature for the next four weeks minimum, and any pain of any kind, respond with doc visit immediately. This is essential. Do not hesitate to take over. Do not trust her significant other to be able to respond in a timely manner. I mean no judgment, just an effective plan of action. You did all the right things. All of them. You have earned your wings several times over. I know what it is to help and witness a daughter give birth to a deceased child. It takes guts and grace beyond the pale, both. Please make sure you get comfort and tending to also. You have been through alot. This comes with much love for you and Cyn and all members of the family in every direction. I send my deepest understanding and condolences, as I know all here on grad list do too--- for such a loss, many may just have no words, but I know their hearts are overflowing for you. Ceep G-MOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 In a message dated 3/13/03 3:39:30 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes: << OT Cyns baby Dona Rose >> from one grandmother to another Debby, when things calm a bit, please feel free to contact me privately. Thank you so much for telling us. I have no doubt the gates of heaven flew open for this little one Dona Rose. This is my two cent's worth for now: Keep an eye on your daughters temperature for the next four weeks minimum, and any pain of any kind, respond with doc visit immediately. This is essential. Do not hesitate to take over. Do not trust her significant other to be able to respond in a timely manner. I mean no judgment, just an effective plan of action. You did all the right things. All of them. You have earned your wings several times over. I know what it is to help and witness a daughter give birth to a deceased child. It takes guts and grace beyond the pale, both. Please make sure you get comfort and tending to also. You have been through alot. This comes with much love for you and Cyn and all members of the family in every direction. I send my deepest understanding and condolences, as I know all here on grad list do too--- for such a loss, many may just have no words, but I know their hearts are overflowing for you. Ceep G-MOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 My heart goes out to you and your family Debby. I have tears in my eyes and don't know what to say other than know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers. ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.comR http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! R OT Cyns baby Dona Rose Sorry for the cross posts but this is long and hard to wright. Id like to also say Yahoo has been driveing me crazy, they wouldnt let me into my groups on sight or any other way. So if some one posted to me im sorry I didnt respond. I really appreciate all the suport and prayers you all have been sending up for my family. Its been such a tough time for us and I want you all to know how much you have helped me through all this. Thank you for letting me cry on your sholders and for all your comforting words. It helped more than you could ever know. I got 200 emials so looks like im back on this time for sure Grrrrrrrrr. Cyn called me at work on monday around 2 and told me the baby was dead. She had been to the doc and had another ultra sound and they couldnt find a heart beat. She was crying and quite distraunt. had to interp for her she was unable to relay the message to me. I had been expecting the call every since last thursday when we found out the baby had no hope of living, It wasnt parvo or bad blood. Cyn kept saying that this baby was going to beat the odds and live. I knew in my heart it more than likely wasnt. I just prayed for Strength for me to be there and strong for Cyn and and for God to guide me to do and say the right things when the time would come. After the second oppinion I informed the owner of the school that Id have to take a few days off to be there for cyn. I was informed that there were 2 other instructors just waiting to come to Vancouve to work. I was told my job was in jeperdy I said do what ever you want cause im outa here when cyn calls. Then I said if you fire me ill sue your ass and i left and went to lunch to cool off. When I got back from lunch my boss tried to cool me off and be comforting. I informed her I hoped I had a job to come bsck to but if not so be because I will be with my daughter. After Cyn called me this monday 3/10/03 I was so rattled I couldnt think. I had my cell phone with me and took her call in class since I cnt hear on the school phones. I could feel the color drain from my face. I had three new students in class who had no clue on what was going on and had met me only a few hours ago. I couldnt think straight so I said please forgive me im a little rattled right now and could we please have an early break. I then went into the office to call my boss to let her know I was leaving and headed to Tacoma to be with cyn. She informed me that she had to be at the skill center and this wasnt a good time for me to tske off, I simply said im sorry bout that but im outa here and I wont be back tell this has been resolved.I then hung up and called my husband who proceeded to tell his boss. I called cyn back and said we will be up there tonight. When My husband and I got there Cyn ws some what better she was very relieved to see us. We hugged both her and and told thme how sory we were and that we were there for both of them. Not just Cyn. Cyndies husband is a real jerk never there for her. We were praying that this time he would be. Nope he syarted that monday eve. Cyn realized that with all that was going on she had forgotton to pay her electric bill. very understandable with all thats been going on. She took the bill and check book to to have it do it by phone. Cyn cant cause he still hasnt put her on the bank acount. (avery sore subject since hes going to be deployed) He refused to do it. Period nope she could just go pay it at a pay station. He signed the check and Cyn and I went to the all night pay station. I refrained from voicing my oppinion of . cause it would have just caused cyn more pain. Cyn however proceded to call him names as we drove. I just let her vent. Tues day morning we went to breakfast then headed to the hospital. Cyn her dad and I took one car. took his why I dont know. We arived at the hospital at 8:30 finel arived there at 10 thirty am. Stayed for about 45 min and left. We didnt see him agian tell 2 when he came back to get my husband to take him to his car because needed to come back to Vancouver to work the next day. He was to also meet his parents who were there by 2. His parents stsyed untill 7 that nigh. didnt even stay with cyn nor his folks for those few hours . He left again to go get a buddy. They were inserting a pill into cyns uterus to try and get her labor started it wasnt working. They did this every four hours. came to the hospitlal at midnight and slept untill 7am when cyn woke him to tell him the labor had started. was oblivious to the fact that cyn almost died during the night. She was vomiting profusely and her fever was 105.5. Which meant there was an infection. They tried ice packs, but they wernt working. I was strokeing her forehed with a cold compress. They through her in a coll shower which brought the fever down to 105. Apros 45 min she was given another cold shower. She wanted me to do this, not a nurse so I washed her hair bathed her and towel dried her. This second shower brought the fever to 103 were it stsyed tell the delivery. S she slept restlesly. I spent the night strokeing her hand her head. Crying silently and shakeing like a leaf. I was so scare i was going to loose them both. Around 5 or 6 in the am the docs came and said because of the infection they needed to speed things up alot. They put something in the iv and inserted another pill intoi the uterus. They said if this didnt do the trick they were going to have to try to stretch the uterus to try and get started opening up. Around 7:30 cyns water broke and she was in labor. I said a quick prayer that God allow her to have a speedy delivery. He answered that prayer with a yes. Cyn woke up to inform him she ws in labor and that it was hapening. His responce was I gota go get johm a friedn and split. Donna Rose was delivered at 907 am weighing 2 lbs and thirteen inches long. It was so fast. Cyn went from 0 to 7 fast. She said I gota push the nurse looked saw a little head. One of the other nurses went to get the doc, but the baby hust shot like a flying object and the nurse caught her in a bedpan like a basket ball. It was so quick it cought us all off guard. The baby was a dark purple I was taken back by its apearance. Id never seen a dead baby before. I could she all the swelling, but she was a perfectly formed baby had all her fingers toes legs hands etc. I was so proud of my baby she did so great through all this. She just did what ever was needed to help thme be able to test Donna to try and find out why this all happened. arived back at the hospital friend in tow arount 9:45 He was then mad he had missed the birth and went on a poor me thing. We tried to tell him he wouldnt have been able to tolerate it anyway since he couldnt stand to see some one throuw up. Cyn had been doing that all day tues as well as through the night. either left and didnt come back or he put his sweat shirt over his head. They took the baby to clean her up. They encourage the mother and father to hold the baby for closure and Cyn wanted to do thissss She wanted shawn and I to also do this. refused. After seeing the baby deliverd I wasnt so sure I could hold it either but then I said ok I can do this Id walk through fire if it would help Cyn get through all this. But as it turned out the way they bring the in is done so tastefully. Donna Rose was laying in a basket in a tiny little blanket and hat. She was smileing. She looked as though her face had been made from a jellow mold cause of all the swelling. She looked like a cute little cartoon character. Cyn want me to take pictures of her and the baby so i did. ( one of my co-workers said she might want this, so I brought it just in case) I gota tell you when cyn looked at her precious daughter I could see a calm come over her face and she smiled. She did find some comfort and closure in holding her. I saw shawn look at the baby and just a fast glance. I know this is really hard on him to. I hugged them both and left the room so they could have some time to there selves with Donna Rose. Cyndie named the baby Donna because this ws also the month her Godmother died in and Rose was her maiden name and she felt the bby ws in donna's arms now. The name gave her comfort. I went back into the room and tols cyn to let me know when they wanted the nurses to take the baby. split and we didnt see him again tell 5 pm. They came and got the baby and cyn and I talked. I asked her if she touched the baby and she said no That Donna looked happy and so fragile she was afraid she would break her. I told cyn see she was smileing cause she new you loved her very much and Cyn she loved you very much thats why she died smileing to give you some comfort and to let you know she loved you as much as you loved her. I said cyn no matter that Donna is in heaven now you are her mom and always will be. and march 12 will always be a day I will remember our loving grandaughter donna rose. She said dosnt want to acknoledge this day ever. I said give him time and even if he dosnt you still can. I said bye yourself flowers or give money to charity. Make this a special day, cause Donna Rose was a very special child of God. Cyn said mom has been a butt head through out all this and thank you for being here for me cause If you hadnt I would have been all alone . My answere to her was i wouldnt have been any were else. I kissed her told her How much I loved her. The nurses told her while I was standing ther that she had a great mom and that I had been very suportive as well as helpfull to them as well as cyn. That made me feel good cause I was trying to be helpful yet not be pushy or in the way. I gota say the army was so there. They had the chaplan come in 2 of them. s tow big bosses capt came to offer ther e support . greave counslers came so many people. The hard part about them comeing was explaining s absence. I mean the look on his superiors face when cyn sid he was at the apartment was like what the heck. I mean he had er leave to be ther for cyn and he wasntAfter the delivery cyns fevcer started coming down and blood tests showed it wasnt in the blood stream, They put her on strong iv antibiotics through out the day. They wanted to keep her over night to be sure she was inded ok. I felt at this point it was time for me to step out of the picture and make shawn be there so they could spend time just the two of them. Idemaned a promise from that wold be staying the night with her cause she didnt want to be alone at the hospital. He said hed stay the night. Her dad and I left and to go home. I was exhausted a little nervous about leaving her but felt it was the right thign to do. I called her this mornign and did stay the night, He was gone then but she was talking to a grevienc counslor at the time. They are keeping her another night. They want to make sure she dosnt have a fever for 24 hrs before sending her home. They are doing the autopsy on the baby today or early next week. The baby will be buried here in vancouver and the army is takeing care of this expense. I wa s so impressed with the hospital and the army all the doctors and nurses. They really did all they could to ease there suffering and to give this mother and her child the dignity and comfort they so deserved. I will always be gratefull to them for all they have done for my greaving daughter. Im sorry this was so long. And Thank you so much for listening Love Debby R (wa) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 My heart goes out to you and your family Debby. I have tears in my eyes and don't know what to say other than know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers. ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.comR http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! R OT Cyns baby Dona Rose Sorry for the cross posts but this is long and hard to wright. Id like to also say Yahoo has been driveing me crazy, they wouldnt let me into my groups on sight or any other way. So if some one posted to me im sorry I didnt respond. I really appreciate all the suport and prayers you all have been sending up for my family. Its been such a tough time for us and I want you all to know how much you have helped me through all this. Thank you for letting me cry on your sholders and for all your comforting words. It helped more than you could ever know. I got 200 emials so looks like im back on this time for sure Grrrrrrrrr. Cyn called me at work on monday around 2 and told me the baby was dead. She had been to the doc and had another ultra sound and they couldnt find a heart beat. She was crying and quite distraunt. had to interp for her she was unable to relay the message to me. I had been expecting the call every since last thursday when we found out the baby had no hope of living, It wasnt parvo or bad blood. Cyn kept saying that this baby was going to beat the odds and live. I knew in my heart it more than likely wasnt. I just prayed for Strength for me to be there and strong for Cyn and and for God to guide me to do and say the right things when the time would come. After the second oppinion I informed the owner of the school that Id have to take a few days off to be there for cyn. I was informed that there were 2 other instructors just waiting to come to Vancouve to work. I was told my job was in jeperdy I said do what ever you want cause im outa here when cyn calls. Then I said if you fire me ill sue your ass and i left and went to lunch to cool off. When I got back from lunch my boss tried to cool me off and be comforting. I informed her I hoped I had a job to come bsck to but if not so be because I will be with my daughter. After Cyn called me this monday 3/10/03 I was so rattled I couldnt think. I had my cell phone with me and took her call in class since I cnt hear on the school phones. I could feel the color drain from my face. I had three new students in class who had no clue on what was going on and had met me only a few hours ago. I couldnt think straight so I said please forgive me im a little rattled right now and could we please have an early break. I then went into the office to call my boss to let her know I was leaving and headed to Tacoma to be with cyn. She informed me that she had to be at the skill center and this wasnt a good time for me to tske off, I simply said im sorry bout that but im outa here and I wont be back tell this has been resolved.I then hung up and called my husband who proceeded to tell his boss. I called cyn back and said we will be up there tonight. When My husband and I got there Cyn ws some what better she was very relieved to see us. We hugged both her and and told thme how sory we were and that we were there for both of them. Not just Cyn. Cyndies husband is a real jerk never there for her. We were praying that this time he would be. Nope he syarted that monday eve. Cyn realized that with all that was going on she had forgotton to pay her electric bill. very understandable with all thats been going on. She took the bill and check book to to have it do it by phone. Cyn cant cause he still hasnt put her on the bank acount. (avery sore subject since hes going to be deployed) He refused to do it. Period nope she could just go pay it at a pay station. He signed the check and Cyn and I went to the all night pay station. I refrained from voicing my oppinion of . cause it would have just caused cyn more pain. Cyn however proceded to call him names as we drove. I just let her vent. Tues day morning we went to breakfast then headed to the hospital. Cyn her dad and I took one car. took his why I dont know. We arived at the hospital at 8:30 finel arived there at 10 thirty am. Stayed for about 45 min and left. We didnt see him agian tell 2 when he came back to get my husband to take him to his car because needed to come back to Vancouver to work the next day. He was to also meet his parents who were there by 2. His parents stsyed untill 7 that nigh. didnt even stay with cyn nor his folks for those few hours . He left again to go get a buddy. They were inserting a pill into cyns uterus to try and get her labor started it wasnt working. They did this every four hours. came to the hospitlal at midnight and slept untill 7am when cyn woke him to tell him the labor had started. was oblivious to the fact that cyn almost died during the night. She was vomiting profusely and her fever was 105.5. Which meant there was an infection. They tried ice packs, but they wernt working. I was strokeing her forehed with a cold compress. They through her in a coll shower which brought the fever down to 105. Apros 45 min she was given another cold shower. She wanted me to do this, not a nurse so I washed her hair bathed her and towel dried her. This second shower brought the fever to 103 were it stsyed tell the delivery. S she slept restlesly. I spent the night strokeing her hand her head. Crying silently and shakeing like a leaf. I was so scare i was going to loose them both. Around 5 or 6 in the am the docs came and said because of the infection they needed to speed things up alot. They put something in the iv and inserted another pill intoi the uterus. They said if this didnt do the trick they were going to have to try to stretch the uterus to try and get started opening up. Around 7:30 cyns water broke and she was in labor. I said a quick prayer that God allow her to have a speedy delivery. He answered that prayer with a yes. Cyn woke up to inform him she ws in labor and that it was hapening. His responce was I gota go get johm a friedn and split. Donna Rose was delivered at 907 am weighing 2 lbs and thirteen inches long. It was so fast. Cyn went from 0 to 7 fast. She said I gota push the nurse looked saw a little head. One of the other nurses went to get the doc, but the baby hust shot like a flying object and the nurse caught her in a bedpan like a basket ball. It was so quick it cought us all off guard. The baby was a dark purple I was taken back by its apearance. Id never seen a dead baby before. I could she all the swelling, but she was a perfectly formed baby had all her fingers toes legs hands etc. I was so proud of my baby she did so great through all this. She just did what ever was needed to help thme be able to test Donna to try and find out why this all happened. arived back at the hospital friend in tow arount 9:45 He was then mad he had missed the birth and went on a poor me thing. We tried to tell him he wouldnt have been able to tolerate it anyway since he couldnt stand to see some one throuw up. Cyn had been doing that all day tues as well as through the night. either left and didnt come back or he put his sweat shirt over his head. They took the baby to clean her up. They encourage the mother and father to hold the baby for closure and Cyn wanted to do thissss She wanted shawn and I to also do this. refused. After seeing the baby deliverd I wasnt so sure I could hold it either but then I said ok I can do this Id walk through fire if it would help Cyn get through all this. But as it turned out the way they bring the in is done so tastefully. Donna Rose was laying in a basket in a tiny little blanket and hat. She was smileing. She looked as though her face had been made from a jellow mold cause of all the swelling. She looked like a cute little cartoon character. Cyn want me to take pictures of her and the baby so i did. ( one of my co-workers said she might want this, so I brought it just in case) I gota tell you when cyn looked at her precious daughter I could see a calm come over her face and she smiled. She did find some comfort and closure in holding her. I saw shawn look at the baby and just a fast glance. I know this is really hard on him to. I hugged them both and left the room so they could have some time to there selves with Donna Rose. Cyndie named the baby Donna because this ws also the month her Godmother died in and Rose was her maiden name and she felt the bby ws in donna's arms now. The name gave her comfort. I went back into the room and tols cyn to let me know when they wanted the nurses to take the baby. split and we didnt see him again tell 5 pm. They came and got the baby and cyn and I talked. I asked her if she touched the baby and she said no That Donna looked happy and so fragile she was afraid she would break her. I told cyn see she was smileing cause she new you loved her very much and Cyn she loved you very much thats why she died smileing to give you some comfort and to let you know she loved you as much as you loved her. I said cyn no matter that Donna is in heaven now you are her mom and always will be. and march 12 will always be a day I will remember our loving grandaughter donna rose. She said dosnt want to acknoledge this day ever. I said give him time and even if he dosnt you still can. I said bye yourself flowers or give money to charity. Make this a special day, cause Donna Rose was a very special child of God. Cyn said mom has been a butt head through out all this and thank you for being here for me cause If you hadnt I would have been all alone . My answere to her was i wouldnt have been any were else. I kissed her told her How much I loved her. The nurses told her while I was standing ther that she had a great mom and that I had been very suportive as well as helpfull to them as well as cyn. That made me feel good cause I was trying to be helpful yet not be pushy or in the way. I gota say the army was so there. They had the chaplan come in 2 of them. s tow big bosses capt came to offer ther e support . greave counslers came so many people. The hard part about them comeing was explaining s absence. I mean the look on his superiors face when cyn sid he was at the apartment was like what the heck. I mean he had er leave to be ther for cyn and he wasntAfter the delivery cyns fevcer started coming down and blood tests showed it wasnt in the blood stream, They put her on strong iv antibiotics through out the day. They wanted to keep her over night to be sure she was inded ok. I felt at this point it was time for me to step out of the picture and make shawn be there so they could spend time just the two of them. Idemaned a promise from that wold be staying the night with her cause she didnt want to be alone at the hospital. He said hed stay the night. Her dad and I left and to go home. I was exhausted a little nervous about leaving her but felt it was the right thign to do. I called her this mornign and did stay the night, He was gone then but she was talking to a grevienc counslor at the time. They are keeping her another night. They want to make sure she dosnt have a fever for 24 hrs before sending her home. They are doing the autopsy on the baby today or early next week. The baby will be buried here in vancouver and the army is takeing care of this expense. I wa s so impressed with the hospital and the army all the doctors and nurses. They really did all they could to ease there suffering and to give this mother and her child the dignity and comfort they so deserved. I will always be gratefull to them for all they have done for my greaving daughter. Im sorry this was so long. And Thank you so much for listening Love Debby R (wa) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Dear Debby, I am so so sorry for the heartache that has come on you and Cyn. I am so sorry that little Donna Rose had to fly away so soon. I read your post and it just opened the flood gates for me, made me cry for poor Cyn, and you and little Donna Rose. You have been so woderful for Cyn, and I know that she will forever be appreciative for your love and understanding.. I know how hard it is to loose a child, and I wish so badly I could keep others from having to go through this pain. I will keep you and the whole family in my prayers. I know some really good grief sites, and some newsletters for family that have lost a child, just let me know if you would like any of them. Again, I am so sorry. Lots and lots of hugs, Chandra mommy to Angel Helaina-Lee , and her 2 little brothers, Noah and Jonah.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Dear Debby, I am so so sorry for the heartache that has come on you and Cyn. I am so sorry that little Donna Rose had to fly away so soon. I read your post and it just opened the flood gates for me, made me cry for poor Cyn, and you and little Donna Rose. You have been so woderful for Cyn, and I know that she will forever be appreciative for your love and understanding.. I know how hard it is to loose a child, and I wish so badly I could keep others from having to go through this pain. I will keep you and the whole family in my prayers. I know some really good grief sites, and some newsletters for family that have lost a child, just let me know if you would like any of them. Again, I am so sorry. Lots and lots of hugs, Chandra mommy to Angel Helaina-Lee , and her 2 little brothers, Noah and Jonah.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 I am so sorry for your loss, and everything that you have been through. God Bless > Sorry for the cross posts but this is long and hard to wright. Id > like to also say Yahoo has been driveing me crazy, they wouldnt > let me into my groups on sight or any other way. So if some > one posted to me im sorry I didnt respond. I really appreciate > all the suport and prayers you all have been sending up for my > family. Its been such a tough time for us and I want you all to > know how much you have helped me through all this. Thank you for > letting me cry on your sholders and for all your comforting words. > It helped more than you could ever know. I got 200 emials so > looks like im back on this time for sure Grrrrrrrrr. > Cyn called me at work on monday around 2 and told me the baby was > dead. She had been to the doc and had another ultra sound and > they couldnt find a heart beat. She was crying and quite distraunt. > had to interp for her she was unable to relay the message > to me. I had been expecting the call every since last thursday > when we found out the baby had no hope of living, It wasnt parvo > or bad blood. > Cyn kept saying that this baby was going to beat the odds and > live. I knew in my heart it more than likely wasnt. I just > prayed for Strength for me to be there and strong for Cyn and > and for God to guide me to do and say the right things > when the time would come. > After the second oppinion I informed the owner of the school that > Id have to take a few days off to be there for cyn. I was > informed that there were 2 other instructors just waiting to come > to Vancouve to work. I was told my job was in jeperdy I said do > what ever you want cause im outa here when cyn calls. Then I > said if you fire me ill sue your ass and i left and went to > lunch to cool off. > When I got back from lunch my boss tried to cool me off and be > comforting. I informed her I hoped I had a job to come bsck to > but if not so be because I will be with my daughter. > After Cyn called me this monday 3/10/03 I was so rattled I couldnt > think. I had my cell phone with me and took her call in class > since I cnt hear on the school phones. > I could feel the color drain from my face. > I had three new students in class who had no clue on what was > going on and had met me only a few hours ago. I couldnt think > straight so I said please forgive me im a little rattled right > now and could we please have an early break. > I then went into the office to call my boss to let her know I > was leaving and headed to Tacoma to be with cyn. > She informed me that she had to be at the skill center and > this wasnt a good time for me to tske off, I simply said im > sorry bout that but im outa here and I wont be back tell this > has been resolved.I then hung up and called my husband who > proceeded to tell his boss. > I called cyn back and said we will be up there tonight. > When My husband and I got there > Cyn ws some what better she was very relieved to see us. We > hugged both her and and told thme how sory we were and that > we were there for both of them. Not just Cyn. > Cyndies husband is a real jerk never there for her. We were > praying that this time he would be. Nope he syarted that monday > eve. Cyn realized that with all that was going on she had > forgotton to pay her electric bill. very understandable with all > thats been going on. She took the bill and check book to > to have it do it by phone. Cyn cant cause he still hasnt put > her on the bank acount. (avery sore subject since hes going to > be deployed) > He refused to do it. Period nope she could just go pay it at a > pay station. He signed the check and Cyn and I went to the all > night pay station. I refrained from voicing my oppinion of . > cause it would have just caused cyn more pain. Cyn however > proceded to call him names as we drove. I just let her vent. > Tues day morning we went to breakfast then headed to the hospital. > Cyn her dad and I took one car. took his why I dont > know. > We arived at the hospital at 8:30 finel arived there at 10 > thirty am. Stayed for about 45 min and left. We didnt see him > agian tell 2 when he came back to get my husband to take him to > his car because needed to come back to Vancouver to work > the next day. He was to also meet his parents who were there by > 2. > His parents stsyed untill 7 that nigh. didnt even stay with > cyn nor his folks for those few hours . He left again to go > get a buddy. They were inserting a pill into cyns uterus to try > and get her labor started it wasnt working. They did this every > four hours. came to the hospitlal at midnight and slept > untill 7am when cyn woke him to tell him the labor had started. > was oblivious to the fact that cyn almost died during the > night. She was vomiting profusely and her fever was 105.5. Which > meant there was an infection. They tried ice packs, but they wernt > working. I was strokeing her forehed with a cold compress. They > through her in a coll shower which brought the fever down to > 105. Apros 45 min she was given another cold shower. She wanted > me to do this, not a nurse so I washed her hair bathed her and > towel dried her. This second shower brought the fever to 103 were > it stsyed tell the delivery. > S she slept restlesly. I spent the night strokeing her hand her head. > Crying silently and shakeing like a leaf. I was so scare i was > going to loose them both. > Around 5 or 6 in the am the docs came and said because of the > infection they needed to speed things up alot. They put something > in the iv and inserted another pill intoi the uterus. They said if > this didnt do the trick they were going to have to try to > stretch the uterus to try and get started opening up. Around 7:30 > cyns water broke and she was in labor. I said a quick prayer that > God allow her to have a speedy delivery. He answered that > prayer with a yes. Cyn woke up to inform him she ws in > labor and that it was hapening. His responce was I gota go get > johm a friedn and split. Donna Rose was delivered at 907 am weighing > 2 lbs and thirteen inches long. It was so fast. Cyn went from 0 > to 7 fast. She said I gota push the nurse looked saw a little > head. One of the other nurses went to get the doc, but the baby > hust shot like a flying object and the nurse caught her in a > bedpan like a basket ball. It was so quick it cought us all off > guard. The baby was a dark purple I was taken back by its > apearance. Id never seen a dead baby before. I could she all the > swelling, but she was a perfectly formed baby had all her > fingers toes legs hands etc. > I was so proud of my baby she did so great through all this. > She just did what ever was needed to help thme be able to test > Donna to try and find out why this all happened. > arived back at the hospital friend in tow arount 9:45 > He was then mad he had missed the birth and went on a poor me > thing. We tried to tell him he wouldnt have been able to tolerate > it anyway since he couldnt stand to see some one throuw up. > Cyn had been doing that all day tues as well as through the > night. either left and didnt come back or he put his sweat > shirt over his head. > They took the baby to clean her up. They encourage the mother and > father to hold the baby for closure and Cyn wanted to do thissss > She wanted shawn and I to also do this. refused. > After seeing the baby deliverd I wasnt so sure I could hold it > either but then I said ok I can do this Id walk through fire > if it would help Cyn get through all this. > But as it turned out the way they bring the in is done so > tastefully. Donna Rose was laying in a basket in a tiny little > blanket and hat. She was smileing. > She looked as though her face had been made from a jellow mold > cause of all the swelling. She looked like a cute little cartoon > character. > Cyn want me to take pictures of her and the baby so i did. ( one > of my co-workers said she might want this, so I brought it just > in case) > I gota tell you when cyn looked at her precious daughter I could > see a calm come over her face and she smiled. She did find some > comfort and closure in holding her. I saw shawn look at the baby > and just a fast glance. I know this is really hard on him to. > I hugged them both and left the room so they could have some > time to there selves with Donna Rose. > Cyndie named the baby Donna because this ws also the month her > Godmother died in and Rose was her maiden name and she felt the > bby ws in donna's arms now. The name gave her comfort. > I went back into the room and tols cyn to let me know when they > wanted the nurses to take the baby. > split and we didnt see him again tell 5 pm. > They came and got the baby and cyn and I talked. I asked her > if she touched the baby and she said no That Donna looked happy > and so fragile she was afraid she would break her. I told cyn > see she was smileing cause she new you loved her very much and > Cyn she loved you very much thats why she died smileing to give > you some comfort and to let you know she loved you as much as > you loved her. I said cyn no matter that Donna is in heaven now > you are her mom and always will be. and march 12 will always be a > day I will remember our loving grandaughter donna rose. She said > dosnt want to acknoledge this day ever. I said give him > time and even if he dosnt you still can. I said bye yourself > flowers or give money to charity. Make this a special day, cause > Donna Rose was a very special child of God. > Cyn said mom has been a butt head through out all this and > thank you for being here for me cause If you hadnt I would have > been all alone . My answere to her was i wouldnt have been any > were else. I kissed her told her How much I loved her. The > nurses told her while I was standing ther that she had a great > mom and that I had been very suportive as well as helpfull to > them as well as cyn. That made me feel good cause I was trying > to be helpful yet not be pushy or in the way. > I gota say the army was so there. They had the chaplan come in > 2 of them. s tow big bosses capt came to offer ther e support > . greave counslers came so many people. The hard part about them > comeing was explaining s absence. I mean the look on his > superiors face when cyn sid he was at the apartment was like what > the heck. I mean he had er leave to be ther for cyn and he > wasntAfter the delivery cyns fevcer started coming down and blood > tests showed it wasnt in the blood stream, They put her on strong > iv antibiotics through out the day. They wanted to keep her over > night to be sure she was inded ok. I felt at this point it was > time for me to step out of the picture and make shawn be there so > they could spend time just the two of them. Idemaned a promise from > that wold be staying the night with her cause she didnt want > to be alone at the hospital. He said hed stay the night. Her dad and I > left and to go home. I was exhausted a little nervous about leaving her > but felt it was the right thign to do. I called her this > mornign and did stay the night, He was gone then but she > was talking to a grevienc counslor at the time. They are keeping > her another night. They want to make sure she dosnt have a fever > for 24 hrs before sending her home. They are doing the autopsy on > the baby today or early next week. The baby will be buried here > in vancouver and the army is takeing care of this expense. I wa s > so impressed with the hospital and the army all the doctors and > nurses. They really did all they could to ease there suffering > and to give this mother and her child the dignity and comfort > they so deserved. I will always be gratefull to them for all they > have done for my greaving daughter. > Im sorry this was so long. > And Thank you so much for listening Love Debby R (wa) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 I am so sorry for your loss, and everything that you have been through. God Bless > Sorry for the cross posts but this is long and hard to wright. Id > like to also say Yahoo has been driveing me crazy, they wouldnt > let me into my groups on sight or any other way. So if some > one posted to me im sorry I didnt respond. I really appreciate > all the suport and prayers you all have been sending up for my > family. Its been such a tough time for us and I want you all to > know how much you have helped me through all this. Thank you for > letting me cry on your sholders and for all your comforting words. > It helped more than you could ever know. I got 200 emials so > looks like im back on this time for sure Grrrrrrrrr. > Cyn called me at work on monday around 2 and told me the baby was > dead. She had been to the doc and had another ultra sound and > they couldnt find a heart beat. She was crying and quite distraunt. > had to interp for her she was unable to relay the message > to me. I had been expecting the call every since last thursday > when we found out the baby had no hope of living, It wasnt parvo > or bad blood. > Cyn kept saying that this baby was going to beat the odds and > live. I knew in my heart it more than likely wasnt. I just > prayed for Strength for me to be there and strong for Cyn and > and for God to guide me to do and say the right things > when the time would come. > After the second oppinion I informed the owner of the school that > Id have to take a few days off to be there for cyn. I was > informed that there were 2 other instructors just waiting to come > to Vancouve to work. I was told my job was in jeperdy I said do > what ever you want cause im outa here when cyn calls. Then I > said if you fire me ill sue your ass and i left and went to > lunch to cool off. > When I got back from lunch my boss tried to cool me off and be > comforting. I informed her I hoped I had a job to come bsck to > but if not so be because I will be with my daughter. > After Cyn called me this monday 3/10/03 I was so rattled I couldnt > think. I had my cell phone with me and took her call in class > since I cnt hear on the school phones. > I could feel the color drain from my face. > I had three new students in class who had no clue on what was > going on and had met me only a few hours ago. I couldnt think > straight so I said please forgive me im a little rattled right > now and could we please have an early break. > I then went into the office to call my boss to let her know I > was leaving and headed to Tacoma to be with cyn. > She informed me that she had to be at the skill center and > this wasnt a good time for me to tske off, I simply said im > sorry bout that but im outa here and I wont be back tell this > has been resolved.I then hung up and called my husband who > proceeded to tell his boss. > I called cyn back and said we will be up there tonight. > When My husband and I got there > Cyn ws some what better she was very relieved to see us. We > hugged both her and and told thme how sory we were and that > we were there for both of them. Not just Cyn. > Cyndies husband is a real jerk never there for her. We were > praying that this time he would be. Nope he syarted that monday > eve. Cyn realized that with all that was going on she had > forgotton to pay her electric bill. very understandable with all > thats been going on. She took the bill and check book to > to have it do it by phone. Cyn cant cause he still hasnt put > her on the bank acount. (avery sore subject since hes going to > be deployed) > He refused to do it. Period nope she could just go pay it at a > pay station. He signed the check and Cyn and I went to the all > night pay station. I refrained from voicing my oppinion of . > cause it would have just caused cyn more pain. Cyn however > proceded to call him names as we drove. I just let her vent. > Tues day morning we went to breakfast then headed to the hospital. > Cyn her dad and I took one car. took his why I dont > know. > We arived at the hospital at 8:30 finel arived there at 10 > thirty am. Stayed for about 45 min and left. We didnt see him > agian tell 2 when he came back to get my husband to take him to > his car because needed to come back to Vancouver to work > the next day. He was to also meet his parents who were there by > 2. > His parents stsyed untill 7 that nigh. didnt even stay with > cyn nor his folks for those few hours . He left again to go > get a buddy. They were inserting a pill into cyns uterus to try > and get her labor started it wasnt working. They did this every > four hours. came to the hospitlal at midnight and slept > untill 7am when cyn woke him to tell him the labor had started. > was oblivious to the fact that cyn almost died during the > night. She was vomiting profusely and her fever was 105.5. Which > meant there was an infection. They tried ice packs, but they wernt > working. I was strokeing her forehed with a cold compress. They > through her in a coll shower which brought the fever down to > 105. Apros 45 min she was given another cold shower. She wanted > me to do this, not a nurse so I washed her hair bathed her and > towel dried her. This second shower brought the fever to 103 were > it stsyed tell the delivery. > S she slept restlesly. I spent the night strokeing her hand her head. > Crying silently and shakeing like a leaf. I was so scare i was > going to loose them both. > Around 5 or 6 in the am the docs came and said because of the > infection they needed to speed things up alot. They put something > in the iv and inserted another pill intoi the uterus. They said if > this didnt do the trick they were going to have to try to > stretch the uterus to try and get started opening up. Around 7:30 > cyns water broke and she was in labor. I said a quick prayer that > God allow her to have a speedy delivery. He answered that > prayer with a yes. Cyn woke up to inform him she ws in > labor and that it was hapening. His responce was I gota go get > johm a friedn and split. Donna Rose was delivered at 907 am weighing > 2 lbs and thirteen inches long. It was so fast. Cyn went from 0 > to 7 fast. She said I gota push the nurse looked saw a little > head. One of the other nurses went to get the doc, but the baby > hust shot like a flying object and the nurse caught her in a > bedpan like a basket ball. It was so quick it cought us all off > guard. The baby was a dark purple I was taken back by its > apearance. Id never seen a dead baby before. I could she all the > swelling, but she was a perfectly formed baby had all her > fingers toes legs hands etc. > I was so proud of my baby she did so great through all this. > She just did what ever was needed to help thme be able to test > Donna to try and find out why this all happened. > arived back at the hospital friend in tow arount 9:45 > He was then mad he had missed the birth and went on a poor me > thing. We tried to tell him he wouldnt have been able to tolerate > it anyway since he couldnt stand to see some one throuw up. > Cyn had been doing that all day tues as well as through the > night. either left and didnt come back or he put his sweat > shirt over his head. > They took the baby to clean her up. They encourage the mother and > father to hold the baby for closure and Cyn wanted to do thissss > She wanted shawn and I to also do this. refused. > After seeing the baby deliverd I wasnt so sure I could hold it > either but then I said ok I can do this Id walk through fire > if it would help Cyn get through all this. > But as it turned out the way they bring the in is done so > tastefully. Donna Rose was laying in a basket in a tiny little > blanket and hat. She was smileing. > She looked as though her face had been made from a jellow mold > cause of all the swelling. She looked like a cute little cartoon > character. > Cyn want me to take pictures of her and the baby so i did. ( one > of my co-workers said she might want this, so I brought it just > in case) > I gota tell you when cyn looked at her precious daughter I could > see a calm come over her face and she smiled. She did find some > comfort and closure in holding her. I saw shawn look at the baby > and just a fast glance. I know this is really hard on him to. > I hugged them both and left the room so they could have some > time to there selves with Donna Rose. > Cyndie named the baby Donna because this ws also the month her > Godmother died in and Rose was her maiden name and she felt the > bby ws in donna's arms now. The name gave her comfort. > I went back into the room and tols cyn to let me know when they > wanted the nurses to take the baby. > split and we didnt see him again tell 5 pm. > They came and got the baby and cyn and I talked. I asked her > if she touched the baby and she said no That Donna looked happy > and so fragile she was afraid she would break her. I told cyn > see she was smileing cause she new you loved her very much and > Cyn she loved you very much thats why she died smileing to give > you some comfort and to let you know she loved you as much as > you loved her. I said cyn no matter that Donna is in heaven now > you are her mom and always will be. and march 12 will always be a > day I will remember our loving grandaughter donna rose. She said > dosnt want to acknoledge this day ever. I said give him > time and even if he dosnt you still can. I said bye yourself > flowers or give money to charity. Make this a special day, cause > Donna Rose was a very special child of God. > Cyn said mom has been a butt head through out all this and > thank you for being here for me cause If you hadnt I would have > been all alone . My answere to her was i wouldnt have been any > were else. I kissed her told her How much I loved her. The > nurses told her while I was standing ther that she had a great > mom and that I had been very suportive as well as helpfull to > them as well as cyn. That made me feel good cause I was trying > to be helpful yet not be pushy or in the way. > I gota say the army was so there. They had the chaplan come in > 2 of them. s tow big bosses capt came to offer ther e support > . greave counslers came so many people. The hard part about them > comeing was explaining s absence. I mean the look on his > superiors face when cyn sid he was at the apartment was like what > the heck. I mean he had er leave to be ther for cyn and he > wasntAfter the delivery cyns fevcer started coming down and blood > tests showed it wasnt in the blood stream, They put her on strong > iv antibiotics through out the day. They wanted to keep her over > night to be sure she was inded ok. I felt at this point it was > time for me to step out of the picture and make shawn be there so > they could spend time just the two of them. Idemaned a promise from > that wold be staying the night with her cause she didnt want > to be alone at the hospital. He said hed stay the night. Her dad and I > left and to go home. I was exhausted a little nervous about leaving her > but felt it was the right thign to do. I called her this > mornign and did stay the night, He was gone then but she > was talking to a grevienc counslor at the time. They are keeping > her another night. They want to make sure she dosnt have a fever > for 24 hrs before sending her home. They are doing the autopsy on > the baby today or early next week. The baby will be buried here > in vancouver and the army is takeing care of this expense. I wa s > so impressed with the hospital and the army all the doctors and > nurses. They really did all they could to ease there suffering > and to give this mother and her child the dignity and comfort > they so deserved. I will always be gratefull to them for all they > have done for my greaving daughter. > Im sorry this was so long. > And Thank you so much for listening Love Debby R (wa) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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