types of surgery

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I'm not sure where y'all are getting info . . . but the rise in DS is dramatic.

Many are having it done . . . It *does* involve restriction, and maximum

malabsorption, just not as restricted as RnY. They generally get 4 oz pouch, I

have 1 oz. They have pylorus (bottom stomach valve), I don't. They commonly

get 40 " common channel, I have 60 " . And I'm very distal. They don't dump, I

do.

The old stomach stapling? You talking about VBG? Restriction only? Many of

them have been revised to RnY, but some are still getting it done. One guy here

in Seattle still does 'em regularly. VBGs. <shudders>

As to why DS? They still digest normally, still have access to intrinsic

factor, so don't get B12 deficient. Have restriction, just not as restricted as

we are . . . I would have, if there'd been a doc in area who did DS a year ago.

Wasn't one . . .

Subject: Re: has anyone

Actually, the right answer is yes.

Going back MANY years ago, there was a procedure of just stomach

stapling which was done. A smaller pouch was formed and there was no

other separation of the stomach. It would be akin to use of a band

now of days.

Weight loss varied, and revisions have occured, including having a

complete RNY done.

There is still an operation being done which was derived from the

DS. It works completely on the basis of malabsorption. My question

would be this.... Why have that procedure done so you can still eat

so much and lose weight. Part of the way we afford new clothes is

the cost savings of food. This other surgery teaches us nothing as

how to handle food in a more reasonable fashion. It may be

effective, but IMHO I beieve there are much greater risks long term.

This may cause problems when very old. But at least I will be able

to get there.

has anyone had the

stomach stapled then later had the gastric bypass done?

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> Angie

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Hawkridge in Washington State.

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure where y'all are getting info . . . but the rise in DS is dramatic.

Many are having it done . . . It *does* involve restriction, and maximum

malabsorption, just not as restricted as RnY. They generally get 4 oz pouch, I

have 1 oz. They have pylorus (bottom stomach valve), I don't. They commonly

get 40 " common channel, I have 60 " . And I'm very distal. They don't dump, I

do.

The old stomach stapling? You talking about VBG? Restriction only? Many of

them have been revised to RnY, but some are still getting it done. One guy here

in Seattle still does 'em regularly. VBGs. <shudders>

As to why DS? They still digest normally, still have access to intrinsic

factor, so don't get B12 deficient. Have restriction, just not as restricted as

we are . . . I would have, if there'd been a doc in area who did DS a year ago.

Wasn't one . . .

Subject: Re: has anyone

Actually, the right answer is yes.

Going back MANY years ago, there was a procedure of just stomach

stapling which was done. A smaller pouch was formed and there was no

other separation of the stomach. It would be akin to use of a band

now of days.

Weight loss varied, and revisions have occured, including having a

complete RNY done.

There is still an operation being done which was derived from the

DS. It works completely on the basis of malabsorption. My question

would be this.... Why have that procedure done so you can still eat

so much and lose weight. Part of the way we afford new clothes is

the cost savings of food. This other surgery teaches us nothing as

how to handle food in a more reasonable fashion. It may be

effective, but IMHO I beieve there are much greater risks long term.

This may cause problems when very old. But at least I will be able

to get there.

has anyone had the

stomach stapled then later had the gastric bypass done?

>

>

> Angie

>

Hawkridge in Washington State.