Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Hi I am from the UK, although I havnt had or going o have a genioplasty, but I thought I would reply anyway. I am not sure of what the NHS allow, but I am getting jaw surgery to move my lower jaw back, and it is going to be basically for cosmetic reason. Yes, it will improve my bite, but it doesnt have to be done, so I am guessing that you MAY be able to get a genioplasty done on the NHS. You will have to ask your orthodontist. Where are in the UK are you? > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Hi I am from the UK, although I havnt had or going o have a genioplasty, but I thought I would reply anyway. I am not sure of what the NHS allow, but I am getting jaw surgery to move my lower jaw back, and it is going to be basically for cosmetic reason. Yes, it will improve my bite, but it doesnt have to be done, so I am guessing that you MAY be able to get a genioplasty done on the NHS. You will have to ask your orthodontist. Where are in the UK are you? > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I can't give you a precise answer even though I am a brit now living in new york. But I did investigate this surgery in the UK through my private health insurance and got the same line as here. Which is that insrance does not cover genio because of its status as cosmetic. As part of my appeal, I argued that it was essentially reconstructive in my case (I have very little cosmetic impact of the operation - its motivation was entirely functional and I would, without genio have been left weak-chinned....) but no matter what the argument, no dice. I have been out of the UK for 3 years so I may be out of touch but I can't see the UK NHS covering this. No direct experience for you but I would be surprised. Good luck though! > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I can't give you a precise answer even though I am a brit now living in new york. But I did investigate this surgery in the UK through my private health insurance and got the same line as here. Which is that insrance does not cover genio because of its status as cosmetic. As part of my appeal, I argued that it was essentially reconstructive in my case (I have very little cosmetic impact of the operation - its motivation was entirely functional and I would, without genio have been left weak-chinned....) but no matter what the argument, no dice. I have been out of the UK for 3 years so I may be out of touch but I can't see the UK NHS covering this. No direct experience for you but I would be surprised. Good luck though! > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Hi, I'm in the UK and I had genio as well as lower advancement. The latter was covered by insurance but the genio wasn't. I think it is very unfair, as a chin does after all have a function and if you haven't got one you should be able to get it done on NHS/insurance. After all, if you didn't have a nose I'm sure you'd be able to get that sorted on the NHS. Nic. > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Hi, I'm in the UK and I had genio as well as lower advancement. The latter was covered by insurance but the genio wasn't. I think it is very unfair, as a chin does after all have a function and if you haven't got one you should be able to get it done on NHS/insurance. After all, if you didn't have a nose I'm sure you'd be able to get that sorted on the NHS. Nic. > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 > Hi, I'm from UK and had upper jaw surgery & genioplasty on the NHS earlier this year. I really don't think there would be a problem with you getting the genioplasty done on the NHS. My surgeon gave me the option of purely upper jaw surgery or upper jaw surgery with genioplasty. Having looked at the surgeons predicted pictures we decided that I should go for jaw & chin. I would have been left with a weak chin without the genioplasty. The surgeon was pleased that i went for both as he felt it was the best option. Having had the surgery I am very pleased with the results. My surgeon also offered to straighten my nose at a later date but I declined as I didn't even know it wasn't straight until he pointed it out! I suggest you discuss it with your surgeon. Also I wouldn't feel too cheeky about the cost - if you are having your jaw done on the NHS anyway, i can't see that it would cost that much more. So go for it, if you don't ask you'll never know! Good Luck. . > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 > Hi, I'm from UK and had upper jaw surgery & genioplasty on the NHS earlier this year. I really don't think there would be a problem with you getting the genioplasty done on the NHS. My surgeon gave me the option of purely upper jaw surgery or upper jaw surgery with genioplasty. Having looked at the surgeons predicted pictures we decided that I should go for jaw & chin. I would have been left with a weak chin without the genioplasty. The surgeon was pleased that i went for both as he felt it was the best option. Having had the surgery I am very pleased with the results. My surgeon also offered to straighten my nose at a later date but I declined as I didn't even know it wasn't straight until he pointed it out! I suggest you discuss it with your surgeon. Also I wouldn't feel too cheeky about the cost - if you are having your jaw done on the NHS anyway, i can't see that it would cost that much more. So go for it, if you don't ask you'll never know! Good Luck. . > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty would > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved in > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How does > the NHS treat this? > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, ie > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Wow thanks to everyone who replied! I think I will mention it to my surgeon when I see him next, which will probably be next year. My surgeon seems quite open minded to what needs to be done to get the best result, so thats a positive sign, as is the fact that he said he would decide on exactly what needed to be done at a later date, so nothings set in stone yet. Thanks again! > > Hi, I'm from UK and had upper jaw surgery & genioplasty on the NHS > earlier this year. I really don't think there would be a problem > with you getting the genioplasty done on the NHS. > > My surgeon gave me the option of purely upper jaw surgery or upper > jaw surgery with genioplasty. Having looked at the surgeons > predicted pictures we decided that I should go for jaw & chin. I > would have been left with a weak chin without the genioplasty. The > surgeon was pleased that i went for both as he felt it was the best > option. Having had the surgery I am very pleased with the results. > > My surgeon also offered to straighten my nose at a later date but I > declined as I didn't even know it wasn't straight until he pointed > it out! > > I suggest you discuss it with your surgeon. Also I wouldn't feel too > cheeky about the cost - if you are having your jaw done on the NHS > anyway, i can't see that it would cost that much more. So go for it, > if you don't ask you'll never know! > > Good Luck. . > > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty > would > > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved > in > > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How > does > > the NHS treat this? > > > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, > ie > > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Wow thanks to everyone who replied! I think I will mention it to my surgeon when I see him next, which will probably be next year. My surgeon seems quite open minded to what needs to be done to get the best result, so thats a positive sign, as is the fact that he said he would decide on exactly what needed to be done at a later date, so nothings set in stone yet. Thanks again! > > Hi, I'm from UK and had upper jaw surgery & genioplasty on the NHS > earlier this year. I really don't think there would be a problem > with you getting the genioplasty done on the NHS. > > My surgeon gave me the option of purely upper jaw surgery or upper > jaw surgery with genioplasty. Having looked at the surgeons > predicted pictures we decided that I should go for jaw & chin. I > would have been left with a weak chin without the genioplasty. The > surgeon was pleased that i went for both as he felt it was the best > option. Having had the surgery I am very pleased with the results. > > My surgeon also offered to straighten my nose at a later date but I > declined as I didn't even know it wasn't straight until he pointed > it out! > > I suggest you discuss it with your surgeon. Also I wouldn't feel too > cheeky about the cost - if you are having your jaw done on the NHS > anyway, i can't see that it would cost that much more. So go for it, > if you don't ask you'll never know! > > Good Luck. . > > > Have any of the UK people from this board had/or are having a > > genioplasty (on the NHS)? > > > > I just ask because I feel like I have a pretty weak chin now, and > > that if my lower jaw moved back, it was solve my overbite but make > > the weak chin look even worse. Therefore I think a genioplasty > would > > be a good idea but Im unsure about how what criteria are involved > in > > adding a genioplasty to jaw surgery, since genioplasty is always > > cosmetic, whereas you can at least argue that jaw surgery has > > functional reasons, even if you want it done for cosmetic. How > does > > the NHS treat this? > > > > Also I feel sort of cheeky since Im having upper surgery in > > addition, which is basically due to my long face and gummy smile, > ie > > cosmetic reasons, so I cant really complain! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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