Repost: other moisturizers

[Guest guest]

Publicly posting email that was sent to you privately is considered beyond

rude, even unacceptable on any other list that I am on.

on 7/13/02 3:15 PM, emarjency at emarjency@... wrote:

> Apparently I've lost my touch in figuring out what's properly

> directed private email and accidently misdirected public posting. My

> sincere apologies to anyone who I repost inappropriately; I hope

> maintaining anonymity is a sufficient cloaking device. My motives are

> only to share what I think is valuable information or concerns with

> the entire group. My previous comment regarding individuals who

> mispost was intended to readdress an observation so many have made

> already made in this group, not to chastize a particular individual --

> not at all, and I apologize if my words were interpreted as such.

>

> In that spirit, someone emailed me this question, which I feel is

> deserving of responses from other people (mine follows):

[Guest guest]

Publicly posting email that was sent to you privately is considered beyond

rude, even unacceptable on any other list that I am on.

on 7/13/02 3:15 PM, emarjency at emarjency@... wrote:

> Apparently I've lost my touch in figuring out what's properly

> directed private email and accidently misdirected public posting. My

> sincere apologies to anyone who I repost inappropriately; I hope

> maintaining anonymity is a sufficient cloaking device. My motives are

> only to share what I think is valuable information or concerns with

> the entire group. My previous comment regarding individuals who

> mispost was intended to readdress an observation so many have made

> already made in this group, not to chastize a particular individual --

> not at all, and I apologize if my words were interpreted as such.

>

> In that spirit, someone emailed me this question, which I feel is

> deserving of responses from other people (mine follows):

[Guest guest]

Apparently I've lost my touch in figuring out what's properly

directed private email and accidently misdirected public posting. My

sincere apologies to anyone who I repost inappropriately; I hope

maintaining anonymity is a sufficient cloaking device. My motives are

only to share what I think is valuable information or concerns with

the entire group. My previous comment regarding individuals who

mispost was intended to readdress an observation so many have made

already made in this group, not to chastize a particular individual --

not at all, and I apologize if my words were interpreted as such.

In that spirit, someone emailed me this question, which I feel is

deserving of responses from other people (mine follows):

-=-=-=

I thought I would ask u cause I also break out on

tolerian cream, so my question is have u tried the

cea Care cream or Emu Super rich moisturizer?

Im thinking about order rosacea care cream...got a

sample of emu super rich but haven't tried it yet.

-=-==

I have not tried any of the emu products. For the past six months of

so I've intermittently used cea Care's moisturing cream -- it's

very rich so a very little goes a long way. I don't react to it, and

I may even get some anti-inflammatory benefit, but if I use it too

many days in a row I will break out, in pretty much the same fashion

as I do with the Tolerian cream. I even break out in the same fashion

to Oil of Olay's Sensitive formula, again using near-microscopic

amounts.

What are these breakouts from? I don't know. I've assumed they're

clogged pores, but they may well be from emulsifiers or, as Barry

points out, preservatives or other ingredients. I even had a bad

reaction to simple moisturizing oil, although I was literally pouring

that onto my face.

These days, I'm going without any moisturizers. Here's to the person

who said they love eye lines! <g>

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

Apparently I've lost my touch in figuring out what's properly

directed private email and accidently misdirected public posting. My

sincere apologies to anyone who I repost inappropriately; I hope

maintaining anonymity is a sufficient cloaking device. My motives are

only to share what I think is valuable information or concerns with

the entire group. My previous comment regarding individuals who

mispost was intended to readdress an observation so many have made

already made in this group, not to chastize a particular individual --

not at all, and I apologize if my words were interpreted as such.

In that spirit, someone emailed me this question, which I feel is

deserving of responses from other people (mine follows):

-=-=-=

I thought I would ask u cause I also break out on

tolerian cream, so my question is have u tried the

cea Care cream or Emu Super rich moisturizer?

Im thinking about order rosacea care cream...got a

sample of emu super rich but haven't tried it yet.

-=-==

I have not tried any of the emu products. For the past six months of

so I've intermittently used cea Care's moisturing cream -- it's

very rich so a very little goes a long way. I don't react to it, and

I may even get some anti-inflammatory benefit, but if I use it too

many days in a row I will break out, in pretty much the same fashion

as I do with the Tolerian cream. I even break out in the same fashion

to Oil of Olay's Sensitive formula, again using near-microscopic

amounts.

What are these breakouts from? I don't know. I've assumed they're

clogged pores, but they may well be from emulsifiers or, as Barry

points out, preservatives or other ingredients. I even had a bad

reaction to simple moisturizing oil, although I was literally pouring

that onto my face.

These days, I'm going without any moisturizers. Here's to the person

who said they love eye lines! <g>

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> These days, I'm going without any moisturizers. Here's to the

person

> who said they love eye lines! <g>

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

Merle Norman has a new moisturizer for sensitive skin -- even

specifies for rosacea. No spf, and supposedly free of all

ingredients known to be harsh. They didn't have samples, but

maintain they stand by all their products. I just started using

Supercity 25 and don't use more than one new thing at a time, so will

I will try it later. I do use their powder base makeup. It works

well for me and provides good coverage w/ zinc oxide protection.

[Guest guest]

> These days, I'm going without any moisturizers. Here's to the

person

> who said they love eye lines! <g>

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

Merle Norman has a new moisturizer for sensitive skin -- even

specifies for rosacea. No spf, and supposedly free of all

ingredients known to be harsh. They didn't have samples, but

maintain they stand by all their products. I just started using

Supercity 25 and don't use more than one new thing at a time, so will

I will try it later. I do use their powder base makeup. It works

well for me and provides good coverage w/ zinc oxide protection.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

On Saturday, 13 July 2002, at 11:25:55 [GMT +0000] you wrote:

C> Publicly posting email that was sent to you privately is considered beyond

C> rude, even unacceptable on any other list that I am on.

I don't believe that this is the general case. What is rude is when you

want to copy a heated email to the group and say `look what they said to

me' this will contribute to getting you banned - especially for the

trouble makers in our group who troll and then get all righteous.

Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email conversations

between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying to the

group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts is also

probably the right thing to do.

cheers,

davidp.

--

Pascoe, mailto:dp@..., Western Australia

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

On Saturday, 13 July 2002, at 11:25:55 [GMT +0000] you wrote:

C> Publicly posting email that was sent to you privately is considered beyond

C> rude, even unacceptable on any other list that I am on.

I don't believe that this is the general case. What is rude is when you

want to copy a heated email to the group and say `look what they said to

me' this will contribute to getting you banned - especially for the

trouble makers in our group who troll and then get all righteous.

Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email conversations

between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying to the

group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts is also

probably the right thing to do.

cheers,

davidp.

--

Pascoe, mailto:dp@..., Western Australia

[Guest guest]

The only problem with that statement is that is seems with this list 90% of

the time you can NOT post to the list you are forced to email a response. I

for one am not all that bright when it comes to message boards and prefer the

way the other lists are run giving me an option to post to the board. If I

email someone and you want to post it please do - I don't have the time or IQ

to figure it out how to get it done without an active " reply ALL " button.

In a message dated 7/14/2002 6:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

carriei@... writes:

> Since you bring it up, If someone emails another list member privately I

> have found that that it is considered " common courtesy " to respect that

> and keep the communication private. If the the recipient does not want

> to do private email then s/he need not respond. I personally don't think

> it's the recipient's business to decide to post publicly an email

> obviously meant to be private.

>

[Guest guest]

The only problem with that statement is that is seems with this list 90% of

the time you can NOT post to the list you are forced to email a response. I

for one am not all that bright when it comes to message boards and prefer the

way the other lists are run giving me an option to post to the board. If I

email someone and you want to post it please do - I don't have the time or IQ

to figure it out how to get it done without an active " reply ALL " button.

In a message dated 7/14/2002 6:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

carriei@... writes:

> Since you bring it up, If someone emails another list member privately I

> have found that that it is considered " common courtesy " to respect that

> and keep the communication private. If the the recipient does not want

> to do private email then s/he need not respond. I personally don't think

> it's the recipient's business to decide to post publicly an email

> obviously meant to be private.

>

[Guest guest]

> Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email

conversations

> between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying

to the

> group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts

is also

> probably the right thing to do.

, that's part of it, but most of the mail I repost is from

people who I strongly suspect intended the post for the group. You

may have missed the group discussion on misdirected posts a few weeks

ago on this topic. Reposting isn't an ideal solution, since it

interferes with archival searches and the flow of threaded

discussions.

Can anything be done to assist new members, many of whom don't seem

to be heeding your appropriate group warning and never adjust the

Yahoo online To: menu, which presently defaults to the author of the

post? Perhaps a To: setting that forces posters to select an address

from several options in the dropdown list, rather than an automatic

default to any one address?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email

conversations

> between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying

to the

> group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts

is also

> probably the right thing to do.

, that's part of it, but most of the mail I repost is from

people who I strongly suspect intended the post for the group. You

may have missed the group discussion on misdirected posts a few weeks

ago on this topic. Reposting isn't an ideal solution, since it

interferes with archival searches and the flow of threaded

discussions.

Can anything be done to assist new members, many of whom don't seem

to be heeding your appropriate group warning and never adjust the

Yahoo online To: menu, which presently defaults to the author of the

post? Perhaps a To: setting that forces posters to select an address

from several options in the dropdown list, rather than an automatic

default to any one address?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email

conversations

> between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying

to the

> group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts

is also

> probably the right thing to do.

, that's part of it, but most of the mail I repost is from

people who I strongly suspect intended the post for the group. You

may have missed the group discussion on misdirected posts a few weeks

ago on this topic. Reposting isn't an ideal solution, since it

interferes with archival searches and the flow of threaded

discussions.

Can anything be done to assist new members, many of whom don't seem

to be heeding your appropriate group warning and never adjust the

Yahoo online To: menu, which presently defaults to the author of the

post? Perhaps a To: setting that forces posters to select an address

from several options in the dropdown list, rather than an automatic

default to any one address?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> Marjorie has said that she doesn't want to carry out email

conversations

> between individuals, but rather use the public nature of replying

to the

> group. This choice is fine and her politeness in anonymising posts

is also

> probably the right thing to do.

, that's part of it, but most of the mail I repost is from

people who I strongly suspect intended the post for the group. You

may have missed the group discussion on misdirected posts a few weeks

ago on this topic. Reposting isn't an ideal solution, since it

interferes with archival searches and the flow of threaded

discussions.

Can anything be done to assist new members, many of whom don't seem

to be heeding your appropriate group warning and never adjust the

Yahoo online To: menu, which presently defaults to the author of the

post? Perhaps a To: setting that forces posters to select an address

from several options in the dropdown list, rather than an automatic

default to any one address?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

Woody,

It doesn't take a high IQ.....if you are responding to a message directly

from the Yahoo site all you do select the " To: " address from the pull down

menu. As it is now D. Pascoe has it set up to default to the individual

sender, but if you want to send the message to the board then select the

rosacea support group address.

could change the default setting so that it defaults to the cea

group address instead of the individual sender. However I must say I find it

very strange that only one or two people on this group seem to have this

very frequent " need to re-post messages " problem...

Hth,

carrie

on 7/14/02 10:52 AM, woody1046@... at woody1046@... wrote:

> The only problem with that statement is that is seems with this list 90% of

> the time you can NOT post to the list you are forced to email a response. I

> for one am not all that bright when it comes to message boards and prefer the

> way the other lists are run giving me an option to post to the board. If I

> email someone and you want to post it please do - I don't have the time or IQ

> to figure it out how to get it done without an active " reply ALL " button.

>

>

> In a message dated 7/14/2002 6:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> carriei@... writes:

>

>

>> Since you bring it up, If someone emails another list member privately I

>> have found that that it is considered " common courtesy " to respect that

>> and keep the communication private. If the the recipient does not want

>> to do private email then s/he need not respond. I personally don't think

>> it's the recipient's business to decide to post publicly an email

>> obviously meant to be private.

[Guest guest]

Woody,

It doesn't take a high IQ.....if you are responding to a message directly

from the Yahoo site all you do select the " To: " address from the pull down

menu. As it is now D. Pascoe has it set up to default to the individual

sender, but if you want to send the message to the board then select the

rosacea support group address.

could change the default setting so that it defaults to the cea

group address instead of the individual sender. However I must say I find it

very strange that only one or two people on this group seem to have this

very frequent " need to re-post messages " problem...

Hth,

carrie

on 7/14/02 10:52 AM, woody1046@... at woody1046@... wrote:

> The only problem with that statement is that is seems with this list 90% of

> the time you can NOT post to the list you are forced to email a response. I

> for one am not all that bright when it comes to message boards and prefer the

> way the other lists are run giving me an option to post to the board. If I

> email someone and you want to post it please do - I don't have the time or IQ

> to figure it out how to get it done without an active " reply ALL " button.

>

>

> In a message dated 7/14/2002 6:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> carriei@... writes:

>

>

>> Since you bring it up, If someone emails another list member privately I

>> have found that that it is considered " common courtesy " to respect that

>> and keep the communication private. If the the recipient does not want

>> to do private email then s/he need not respond. I personally don't think

>> it's the recipient's business to decide to post publicly an email

>> obviously meant to be private.

[Guest guest]

Maybe that's my problem since I never go on line. I do something AOL calls

flash mail which takes all of 7 seconds on my phone bill then I answer off

line in email. For AOL there is no pulling down the " To: " to for me either.

That's OK anyway - I'm here for the education anyway.

In a message dated 7/14/2002 5:52:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

carriei@... writes:

> It doesn't take a high IQ.....if you are responding to a message directly

> from the Yahoo site all you do select the " To: " address from the pull down

> menu. As it is now D. Pascoe has it set up to default to the individual

> sender, but if you want to send the message to the board then select the

> rosacea support group address.

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe that's my problem since I never go on line. I do something AOL calls

flash mail which takes all of 7 seconds on my phone bill then I answer off

line in email. For AOL there is no pulling down the " To: " to for me either.

That's OK anyway - I'm here for the education anyway.

In a message dated 7/14/2002 5:52:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

carriei@... writes:

> It doesn't take a high IQ.....if you are responding to a message directly

> from the Yahoo site all you do select the " To: " address from the pull down

> menu. As it is now D. Pascoe has it set up to default to the individual

> sender, but if you want to send the message to the board then select the

> rosacea support group address.

>