Re:How long until see die off effects after first dose of nystatin?

[Guest guest]

after about 1 week, I noticed some die off with

, not too bad. It lasted about a week. Surprised

kids with yeast afte being on scd. Perhaps you could

go back and do the intro too to help kill the yeast.

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I don't understand what you are saying? Yeast ends on SCD?

>

> after about 1 week, I noticed some die off with

> , not too bad. It lasted about a week. Surprised

> kids with yeast afte being on scd. Perhaps you could

> go back and do the intro too to help kill the yeast.

>

>

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It can be also in 5 to 8 hours too!!! Depends on the child!!! Love, Gabby. :0)

[Guest guest]

Liz did you see this article about the specific carbohydrate diet

(SCD)?

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20060301174333

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[Guest guest]

Yes, SCD is meant to keep yeast under control by starving it out with " legal "

only monosaccharide foods which are easily digestible and the 24 hour SCD

yogurt. You can find out more by going to breakingtheviciouscycle.info

ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...> wrote:

I don't understand what you are saying? Yeast ends on SCD?

>

> after about 1 week, I noticed some die off with

> , not too bad. It lasted about a week. Surprised

> kids with yeast afte being on scd. Perhaps you could

> go back and do the intro too to help kill the yeast.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

What are the effects

>

> It can be also in 5 to 8 hours too!!! Depends on the child!!! Love,

Gabby. :0)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I am really going for the nutritious diet for both kids but

we have a yeast issue in son and likely crohns according to GI) in

daughter so I am looking for ways to help. It is so restrictive and

while I don't mind that I want her to be able to come off it.

>

> Liz did you see this article about the specific carbohydrate diet

> (SCD)?

>

> http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20060301174333

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Hyperactivity, Giddy and silliness... and low eye contact!!! :0)

[Guest guest]

Cant help but add 2 cents here. Hope its useful.

The SCD is a good one for many, but will not in and of itself

preclude yeast. Often yeast runs amok because antibiotics killed

off the " beneficial " bacteria in the gut which normally keeps the

yeast under control. The " Leaky Gut " syndrome can add vulnerability,

as can an sluggish colon. Lots of ways yeast can thrive.

It's further complicated in that not every antifungal kills every

kind of yeast. Thus, the 'antifungal parade'. It may take several

different ones to finish the job. Die off from the yeast toxins only

occurs when the antifungal and the particular yeast were a good

match. Thus the parade. Some children go thru MANY different ones

in succession and get die-off only from some. Different yeasts need

different killers...Some take a week after max dose is reached and

die-off is dramatic, activated charcoal (OTC from pharmacist) can be

a god-send. Realize too that some antifungal drugs are more

aggressive than others. I like to suggest a week where the children

and parents are home, like spring break. It will not be a vacation

you forget, but it will be one that you remember making a profound

difference for your child. Please note too, that not all apraxic

children have yeast issues so best not to go onto this without doctor

diagnosis of yeast. Its been proposed that 99.9% of autistic

children have yeast (symptoms of yeast or not), (Aspergers kids dont

have similar mercury or yeast findings thus all developmental

disorders, even on the same spectrum, shouldnt be indiscriminately

treated the same).

Probiotics are great, but only after healing the gut and clearing the

yeast, otherwise we are feeding the yeast...

Sorry to ramble, I am so passionate about this, and not everyone

wants to hear about it ya know!!

Hope this helps somehow. Best to all..

>

> Liz did you see this article about the specific carbohydrate diet

> (SCD)?

> http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20060301174333

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

My experience is that each child can have quite unique die-off

experience. Toxins are being released, so each child will respond

differently to the particular poison they are transporting out.

Severe reactions have been reported such as tantrums, toe walking, not

responding to their name, frustration, aggitation, aggression,etc.---

This potential is why I advise early trials with all hands on deck and

no big plans for those initial days. Also expect some very loose

stools.

In , martha develbiss

<gabydevelbiss@...> wrote:

>

> Hyperactivity, Giddy and silliness... and low eye contact!!! :0)

>

>

[Guest guest]

With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it determined the

child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a Doctor prescribes or is

it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

marie

[Guest guest]

Big help, as always. Answered many, many questions I had been mulling

over and could not articulate. Thank you!

>

> Cant help but add 2 cents here. Hope its useful.

> The SCD is a good one for many, but will not in and of itself

> preclude yeast. Often yeast runs amok because antibiotics killed

> off the " beneficial " bacteria in the gut which normally keeps the

> yeast under control. The " Leaky Gut " syndrome can add

vulnerability,

> as can an sluggish colon. Lots of ways yeast can thrive.

>

> It's further complicated in that not every antifungal kills every

> kind of yeast. Thus, the 'antifungal parade'. It may take several

> different ones to finish the job. Die off from the yeast toxins

only

> occurs when the antifungal and the particular yeast were a good

> match. Thus the parade. Some children go thru MANY different ones

> in succession and get die-off only from some. Different yeasts

need

> different killers...Some take a week after max dose is reached and

> die-off is dramatic, activated charcoal (OTC from pharmacist) can

be

> a god-send. Realize too that some antifungal drugs are more

> aggressive than others. I like to suggest a week where the

children

> and parents are home, like spring break. It will not be a vacation

> you forget, but it will be one that you remember making a profound

> difference for your child. Please note too, that not all apraxic

> children have yeast issues so best not to go onto this without

doctor

> diagnosis of yeast. Its been proposed that 99.9% of autistic

> children have yeast (symptoms of yeast or not), (Aspergers kids

dont

> have similar mercury or yeast findings thus all developmental

> disorders, even on the same spectrum, shouldnt be indiscriminately

> treated the same).

>

> Probiotics are great, but only after healing the gut and clearing

the

> yeast, otherwise we are feeding the yeast...

>

> Sorry to ramble, I am so passionate about this, and not everyone

> wants to hear about it ya know!!

>

> Hope this helps somehow. Best to all..

>

>

[Guest guest]

Never, ever saw any die off reactions - even at full dosing.

>

> My experience is that each child can have quite unique die-off

> experience. Toxins are being released, so each child will respond

> differently to the particular poison they are transporting out.

> Severe reactions have been reported such as tantrums, toe walking,

not

> responding to their name, frustration, aggitation, aggression,etc.-

--

> This potential is why I advise early trials with all hands on deck

and

> no big plans for those initial days. Also expect some very loose

> stools.

>

[Guest guest]

Okay......

I'm glad that you're passionate about this since I need you right about now!

We are doing Round 2 of DMSA and my boy is looking at me wild eyed whispering

" YEAST! " and trying desparately not to scratch his 'privates' in public. We

race home and I break out the Candex.... HURRY!!!!!

On round one, we didn't have any yeast symptoms until the round was over but now

we are having yeast symptoms within 8 hours of beginning the round. I have

Candex and I also have some Primal Defense by Garden of Life that my Doc gave

me. Which one is better to use with the DMSA in your opinion? Both?

When should I be treating for yeast? Should I continue to treat on Off days as

well as On days? How long do I wait to give the yeast after giving the DMSA?

Has anyone found a 'method' by which they handle this yeast that kicks up? What

is the yeast secret? Mark is NOT a yeasty kid but this stuff just brings it

right up and stirs the pot! (Kind of like me on anti-biotics...... yeast city!)

I KNOW that I have to keep a good control over this.

Any advice would be much appreciated. I can experiment but I would love the

benefit of the experiences of those who have gone before..... ye wise ones!

Other than the yeast, the round is going well and I know it is coming out of

him...... Gotta love that DMSA urine!

Janice

[sPAM][ ] Re:How long until see die off effects

after first dose of nystatin?

Cant help but add 2 cents here. Hope its useful.

The SCD is a good one for many, but will not in and of itself

preclude yeast. Often yeast runs amok because antibiotics killed

off the " beneficial " bacteria in the gut which normally keeps the

yeast under control. The " Leaky Gut " syndrome can add vulnerability,

as can an sluggish colon. Lots of ways yeast can thrive.

It's further complicated in that not every antifungal kills every

kind of yeast. Thus, the 'antifungal parade'. It may take several

different ones to finish the job. Die off from the yeast toxins only

occurs when the antifungal and the particular yeast were a good

match. Thus the parade. Some children go thru MANY different ones

in succession and get die-off only from some. Different yeasts need

different killers...Some take a week after max dose is reached and

die-off is dramatic, activated charcoal (OTC from pharmacist) can be

a god-send. Realize too that some antifungal drugs are more

aggressive than others. I like to suggest a week where the children

and parents are home, like spring break. It will not be a vacation

you forget, but it will be one that you remember making a profound

difference for your child. Please note too, that not all apraxic

children have yeast issues so best not to go onto this without doctor

diagnosis of yeast. Its been proposed that 99.9% of autistic

children have yeast (symptoms of yeast or not), (Aspergers kids dont

have similar mercury or yeast findings thus all developmental

disorders, even on the same spectrum, shouldnt be indiscriminately

treated the same).

Probiotics are great, but only after healing the gut and clearing the

yeast, otherwise we are feeding the yeast...

Sorry to ramble, I am so passionate about this, and not everyone

wants to hear about it ya know!!

Hope this helps somehow. Best to all..

[Guest guest]

Marie,

The answer to your question " how is it determined the child has a

yeast problem? " Our doc listened to his history: cradle cap, colic

(defined as baby that rarely sleeps, draws legs up with gastro pain,

passing a lot of gas), chronic athletes foot from age 1 on,

chronically touching his genitals and anal area (much worse than most

little boys who were just " discovering " ), malabsorption and strong

evidence of a " leaky gut " (which yeast can cause), recurring sinusitis

with repeated rounds of antibiotics.

We are on week 3 of a special compounded version of nystatin. For us,

we've seen the die-off happening and I increased slowly until this

past Sunday when we went to full dose. We saw increased

proprioceptive sensory seeking, some vestibular but not as bad, poorer

attention, hyperactivity, poor sleeping habits (waking very early due

to the need for proprioceptive sensory input). In the early days of

it I actually saw some low-grade fever.

I often wondered about the touching his genitals and anal area thing.

I had preschool and church nursery teachers complaining about this

(rightfully so) and referring to it as " self-stimming " , but then I

would scour the sensory books for this being a form of stim - and came

up with nothing. (That's not to say that somewhere and by some people

it is considered stimming - but I couldn't find it in the several

books I have.)

Now that started the nystatin - he doesn't do that anymore. Turns out

for him it wasn't stimming. The poor little guy was probably itching

BEYOND badly (if any of you girls have ever had a yeast infection -

whew - you know what I mean). And because he couldn't tell us, he had

to endure being told to stop. I want to cry just thinking about it.

I don't think there are any good, reliable tests for yeast, although

there may be. He has definitely reacted to the nystatin, so I think

the doc is right.

A good book to look at is The Yeast Connection by Dr. G.

Crook. It gives a lot of symptoms, a lot of info about nystatin and

other antifungals.

>

> With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a

Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

>

>

> marie

>

[Guest guest]

Great question. To be real sure, run a stool sample. Unfortunately

even that is not conclusive. I've seen 2 stools sent from the same

child on the same day, lab results clean on one, and the other full of

yeast, parasites, etc (and that was from a doctor's child so the

sample was taken and mixed appropriately)--- Most cases will show up

in a stool sample, in fact a LOT of people have bad colon environment

(high yeast, high bad bacteria, low good...), we dont need to do the

lab. If they've been on antiobiotics and have significant health

problems, I'd put money on it...

There are outward signs we note on small children. Often they have a

rounded gut since its bloated (yeast rising...). They also seem to

have wasted looking gluts (butt muscles). Redness around anus is

another sign. These are great signs on textbook cases. There are more

subtle signs we can chat about some other time if anyone wants to

hear..

The only behaviors that would make me think Yeast automatically would

be the rubbing of genitals or anus-- yeast makes these real itchy. I

get really miffed when I hear that I child was labeled " hormonal "

because of their constant rubbing against the couch, etc. Aint no way

a kid who is 2-10 is rubbing because of hormones. It's (almost)

always a yeast issue.

Love y'all,

Dr. Mom

In , " Marie Spence "

<mariespence@...> wrote:

>

> With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a

Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

>

>

> marie

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I'll have to look into that book.

Marie

[ ] Re:How long until see die off effects after

first dose of nystatin?

Marie,

The answer to your question " how is it determined the child has a

yeast problem? " Our doc listened to his history: cradle cap, colic

(defined as baby that rarely sleeps, draws legs up with gastro pain,

passing a lot of gas), chronic athletes foot from age 1 on,

chronically touching his genitals and anal area (much worse than most

little boys who were just " discovering " ), malabsorption and strong

evidence of a " leaky gut " (which yeast can cause), recurring sinusitis

with repeated rounds of antibiotics.

We are on week 3 of a special compounded version of nystatin. For us,

we've seen the die-off happening and I increased slowly until this

past Sunday when we went to full dose. We saw increased

proprioceptive sensory seeking, some vestibular but not as bad, poorer

attention, hyperactivity, poor sleeping habits (waking very early due

to the need for proprioceptive sensory input). In the early days of

it I actually saw some low-grade fever.

I often wondered about the touching his genitals and anal area thing.

I had preschool and church nursery teachers complaining about this

(rightfully so) and referring to it as " self-stimming " , but then I

would scour the sensory books for this being a form of stim - and came

up with nothing. (That's not to say that somewhere and by some people

it is considered stimming - but I couldn't find it in the several

books I have.)

Now that started the nystatin - he doesn't do that anymore. Turns out

for him it wasn't stimming. The poor little guy was probably itching

BEYOND badly (if any of you girls have ever had a yeast infection -

whew - you know what I mean). And because he couldn't tell us, he had

to endure being told to stop. I want to cry just thinking about it.

I don't think there are any good, reliable tests for yeast, although

there may be. He has definitely reacted to the nystatin, so I think

the doc is right.

A good book to look at is The Yeast Connection by Dr. G.

Crook. It gives a lot of symptoms, a lot of info about nystatin and

other antifungals.

>

> With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a

Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

>

>

> marie

>

[Guest guest]

,

We have the same history only never had the antibiotics

except in utero and no feet stuff. I do notice the genital thing is

something he wakes up with and it is after calmag which pulls out the

fluoride. It is bad on calmag days which are few these days. General

interest is something he has on off days in the morning only which

makes me think it is the pee. When we first started the probiotic the

pants were always off. I think it stirred up yeast bigtime. I will

read your book. I think Dans use the poop test. The GI's test for

yeast but do nothing if it is there. Not sure what a urologist would

do.

Don't beat yourself up. You are going to the mat for your boy. I have

beat myself up so many times and each time it is more unproductive

than the last.

L

> >

> > With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

> determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic

test a

> Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just

wondering....

> >

> >

> > marie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Janice,

I know that Charlie is a little guy and we were at ground zero again on Wed,

back from our Crazy Sunday. So we have him on the anti-fungal drops again

and only 1 drop of the metal detox today and yesterday.

Saw him toe walk on one foot both today and yesterday. Nothing bad or

significant like last Sun. I think this crazy behavior is yeast as well.

So I dont have any hard info to offer, other than to share, this detox stuff

is drumming up yeast in the least little bit of detox.

Charlie is very busy today and wide-eyed as you described Mark. Found him in

his bathroom on the sink with playing with the water after his nap.

He kindly washed the glass and leather coffee table for me today with plenty

of papertowels strung out on the floor. When I saw it and made a sigh he

said... " Outstanding! " Andy and I looked at each other and could not believe

he said that word. Then he flushed the toilet and said " down, down, down,

down, down. "

So with some irratic behavior, we have also gotten a 3 syllable word and a 5

single word singing sentence.

Who knows what tomorrow brings with this detox stuff. Hopefully we will be

okay staying on the antifungal.

Colleen

Mother of Charlie 30 months

[ ] Re:How long until see die off effects after

first dose of nystatin?

Okay......

I'm glad that you're passionate about this since I need you right about now!

We are doing Round 2 of DMSA and my boy is looking at me wild eyed

whispering " YEAST! " and trying desparately not to scratch his 'privates' in

public. We race home and I break out the Candex.... HURRY!!!!!

On round one, we didn't have any yeast symptoms until the round was over but

now we are having yeast symptoms within 8 hours of beginning the round. I

have Candex and I also have some Primal Defense by Garden of Life that my

Doc gave me. Which one is better to use with the DMSA in your opinion? Both?

When should I be treating for yeast? Should I continue to treat on Off days

as well as On days? How long do I wait to give the yeast after giving the

DMSA?

Has anyone found a 'method' by which they handle this yeast that kicks up?

What is the yeast secret? Mark is NOT a yeasty kid but this stuff just

brings it right up and stirs the pot! (Kind of like me on anti-biotics......

yeast city!) I KNOW that I have to keep a good control over this.

Any advice would be much appreciated. I can experiment but I would love the

benefit of the experiences of those who have gone before..... ye wise ones!

Other than the yeast, the round is going well and I know it is coming out of

him...... Gotta love that DMSA urine!

Janice

[sPAM][ ] Re:How long until see die off effects

after first dose of nystatin?

Cant help but add 2 cents here. Hope its useful.

The SCD is a good one for many, but will not in and of itself

preclude yeast. Often yeast runs amok because antibiotics killed

off the " beneficial " bacteria in the gut which normally keeps the

yeast under control. The " Leaky Gut " syndrome can add vulnerability,

as can an sluggish colon. Lots of ways yeast can thrive.

It's further complicated in that not every antifungal kills every

kind of yeast. Thus, the 'antifungal parade'. It may take several

different ones to finish the job. Die off from the yeast toxins only

occurs when the antifungal and the particular yeast were a good

match. Thus the parade. Some children go thru MANY different ones

in succession and get die-off only from some. Different yeasts need

different killers...Some take a week after max dose is reached and

die-off is dramatic, activated charcoal (OTC from pharmacist) can be

a god-send. Realize too that some antifungal drugs are more

aggressive than others. I like to suggest a week where the children

and parents are home, like spring break. It will not be a vacation

you forget, but it will be one that you remember making a profound

difference for your child. Please note too, that not all apraxic

children have yeast issues so best not to go onto this without doctor

diagnosis of yeast. Its been proposed that 99.9% of autistic

children have yeast (symptoms of yeast or not), (Aspergers kids dont

have similar mercury or yeast findings thus all developmental

disorders, even on the same spectrum, shouldnt be indiscriminately

treated the same).

Probiotics are great, but only after healing the gut and clearing the

yeast, otherwise we are feeding the yeast...

Sorry to ramble, I am so passionate about this, and not everyone

wants to hear about it ya know!!

Hope this helps somehow. Best to all..

[Guest guest]

Am I reading this correctly. A probiotic is feeding yeast in detox?

[ ] Re:How long until see die off effects after

first dose of nystatin?

Big help, as always. Answered many, many questions I had been mulling

over and could not articulate. Thank you!

>

> Cant help but add 2 cents here. Hope its useful.

> The SCD is a good one for many, but will not in and of itself

> preclude yeast. Often yeast runs amok because antibiotics killed

> off the " beneficial " bacteria in the gut which normally keeps the

> yeast under control. The " Leaky Gut " syndrome can add

vulnerability,

> as can an sluggish colon. Lots of ways yeast can thrive.

>

> It's further complicated in that not every antifungal kills every

> kind of yeast. Thus, the 'antifungal parade'. It may take several

> different ones to finish the job. Die off from the yeast toxins

only

> occurs when the antifungal and the particular yeast were a good

> match. Thus the parade. Some children go thru MANY different ones

> in succession and get die-off only from some. Different yeasts

need

> different killers...Some take a week after max dose is reached and

> die-off is dramatic, activated charcoal (OTC from pharmacist) can

be

> a god-send. Realize too that some antifungal drugs are more

> aggressive than others. I like to suggest a week where the

children

> and parents are home, like spring break. It will not be a vacation

> you forget, but it will be one that you remember making a profound

> difference for your child. Please note too, that not all apraxic

> children have yeast issues so best not to go onto this without

doctor

> diagnosis of yeast. Its been proposed that 99.9% of autistic

> children have yeast (symptoms of yeast or not), (Aspergers kids

dont

> have similar mercury or yeast findings thus all developmental

> disorders, even on the same spectrum, shouldnt be indiscriminately

> treated the same).

>

> Probiotics are great, but only after healing the gut and clearing

the

> yeast, otherwise we are feeding the yeast...

>

> Sorry to ramble, I am so passionate about this, and not everyone

> wants to hear about it ya know!!

>

> Hope this helps somehow. Best to all..

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah,

If any of you have ever had a yeast infection.... the itch is enough to make you

climb the walls in agony! It is the same way for our kids.... as Mark will

attest.... loudly....aaaaaaaaah! Stop the yeast! Pleeeaaaaase!

Janice

[sPAM][ ] Re:How long until see die off effects

after first dose of nystatin?

Great question. To be real sure, run a stool sample. Unfortunately

even that is not conclusive. I've seen 2 stools sent from the same

child on the same day, lab results clean on one, and the other full of

yeast, parasites, etc (and that was from a doctor's child so the

sample was taken and mixed appropriately)--- Most cases will show up

in a stool sample, in fact a LOT of people have bad colon environment

(high yeast, high bad bacteria, low good...), we dont need to do the

lab. If they've been on antiobiotics and have significant health

problems, I'd put money on it...

There are outward signs we note on small children. Often they have a

rounded gut since its bloated (yeast rising...). They also seem to

have wasted looking gluts (butt muscles). Redness around anus is

another sign. These are great signs on textbook cases. There are more

subtle signs we can chat about some other time if anyone wants to

hear..

The only behaviors that would make me think Yeast automatically would

be the rubbing of genitals or anus-- yeast makes these real itchy. I

get really miffed when I hear that I child was labeled " hormonal "

because of their constant rubbing against the couch, etc. Aint no way

a kid who is 2-10 is rubbing because of hormones. It's (almost)

always a yeast issue.

Love y'all,

Dr. Mom

In , " Marie Spence "

<mariespence@...> wrote:

>

> With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a

Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

>

>

> marie

>

[Guest guest]

There are direct and indirect indicators. Lab-wise, there are direct

tests for yeast, but there are always lots of substances and imbalances

from which you can infer a yeast problem. Additionally, there can be

topical, behaviorial, and/or BM evidence of a yeast problem. I think

www.danaswview.net and www.enzymestuff.com both have descriptions of

yeast clues and also treatments. There are both natural and

prescription remedies, special diets, enzymes, etc. if you need to

tackle this problem. There are so many ways to come at this problem,

and you need to find the one that works best for your child.

in NJ

>

> With all these yeast questions lately, I'm wondering " How is it

determined the child has a yeast problem? " Is this a diagnostic test a

Doctor prescribes or is it determined by behavior?? just wondering....

>

>

> marie

>

[Guest guest]

Is it that or that plus placing bacteria where it does not belong if

gut remains unhealed. This one is stopping me in my tracks. I'd hate

to think I am recycling a problem.

>

> Am I reading this correctly. A probiotic is feeding yeast in detox?

>

>

[Guest guest]

We actually had a microbial oats test from Great Plains Laboratory that showed

high yeast. But I could tell by their behaviour and other signs: Low ability

to focus, constant jumping, extreme discomfort when off of solid ground (that

comes and goes as yeast comes and goes), extremely silly, very bloated, rounded

belly, night waking, shaking head back and forth. Lots and lots of signs. I am

praying that getting nystatin in their system will clear this, but we will have

to chelate also I am sure to get the metals out and take care of the yeast once

and for all. They showed high in mercury, lead, and arsenic.

Dana, Garrett, and

Dana

and Garrett, 3 years old SCD 1 1/2 years!!!!!

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

[Guest guest]

Janice -

You have got to continue treating for yeast on the OFF days as well

as on days. Once you get a yeast problem going, it is a battle to

keep it in check. DMSA brings on the yeast and you will have to

battle it the entire time you are chelating - on days and off.

We did lots of garlic bread with fresh garlic - good yeast fighter

(spaghetti night), low sugar and lots of water.

We were also doing Nystatin and mega probiotics.

- Jepson says probiotics have to be in the 'billions, at least 10-

20 billion' to do any good. We're not chelating right now, but it

is a definite possibility in our near future depending upon what the

challenges show in a few months.

Maybe your environmental doc can suggest something topical for him

to apply to his private area to get rid of the itching?

Hange in there Mom!

Stephanee

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> When should I be treating for yeast? Should I continue to treat

on Off days as well as On days? How long do I wait to give the

yeast after giving the DMSA?

>

> Has anyone found a 'method' by which they handle this yeast that

kicks up? What is the yeast secret? Mark is NOT a yeasty kid but

this stuff just brings it right up and stirs the pot! (Kind of like

me on anti-biotics...... yeast city!) I KNOW that I have to keep a

good control over this.

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated. I can experiment but I

would love the benefit of the experiences of those who have gone

before..... ye wise ones! Other than the yeast, the round is going

well and I know it is coming out of him...... Gotta love that DMSA

urine!

>

> Janice