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--Hi Cammie, thanks for the advice! Amazingly i got into the

doctors, fortunate of a cancelled appointment. Im not really sure

whether she checked me out thoroughly enough, not that im an expert

but i didnt feel like she really examined them. She said that its

normal, but im not sure. One has been there for about 5-6 weeks now

and the other under my chin has just appeared. I was surfing the

web and found some info and diagrams explaining lymph nodes, and it

mentioned about lumps in the neck with pics illustrating areas where

i have mine. something to do with them being infected, which i feel

kinda fits as i have had quite bad colds over the past 6 weeks and

its still lingering. I have to have my ears syringed at the

beginning of next month so i am going to see how it all clears up,

if not i am going to go to a 3rd doctor get another opinion. Its

just kinda worrying things being there which in your own mind just

doesnt seem natural and the mind certainly wanders and plays evil

tricks on you..... trying to think good thoughts, dont down myself

with well........you know...which was on a hospital programme the

other day which really doesnt help!!!! Luckly i have a hectic few

weeks with starting back at uni and all, including a visit to the

plactic surgeon im having 6 inches added to my legs, lol.... only

joking. so i am going to try and put it to the back of my mind.

TRY Try TRY.,...

Thanks cammie.

I will be sure to keep you posted. Glad that you are ok from the

storm!!!! Stay well.

Kind regards

Kat_UK

- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , ceast36532

<no_reply@y...> wrote:

> Kat, I don't know anything about this. You are one of a very few

> people I know who got those dissolving plates and screws.

>

> Can you get through to your oral surgeon on the phone to ask him

> about this?

>

> I would definitely get in line to see a doc about it. Swollen

glands

> alone can be symptomatic of everything from an upper respiratory

> infection to... well, let's not go there. But best to get it

checked

> out, in any case.

>

> Cammie

>

>

> > Hi guys. I have a quick question for you. mainly aimed towards

> > those post op.

> >

> > Has anyone had or heard of lumps in the neck from surgery? I

know

> > its been 2 years since mine - but its around this time that my

> > plates and screws will be dissolving and im wondering if theres

a

> > link, hoping there is to prevent my mind trailing off and

thinking

> > other wise -arghhhhhhhhh..

> > I have what feels like a grissle lump just at the side of my

left

> > gland which has been there about 5-6 weeks now. Back then i had

a

> > really bad cold and had gone to see the nurse and she said it

was

> > probably just as my glands were up, could this be the smae lump

> just

> > on a linger? also i have just discovered one at the start of my

> neck

> > directly under my chin, i can grab this one more but it feels as

> > though it is more set than the other one. arghhhhhhhhh please

help

> > im going insaneeeeeeeeeeeee...... feel like some flea biten

animal

> > from the inside out, lol. trying to get an appointment at our

> > doctors is a nightmare, you can wait up to 3-4 weeks its

> > disgusting...explaining why i am going out of my mind. :{

> >

> > Hope those of you who were unfortunatley caught up in the bad

> > weather and hurricanes are ok..... i have been thinking of you.

> > good luck to all pre oppers with up coming surgery and to those

who

> > are recovering....

> >

> > thanks guys!!!!

> >

> > Kind regards

> >

> > Kat_UK

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--Hi Cammie, thanks for the advice! Amazingly i got into the

doctors, fortunate of a cancelled appointment. Im not really sure

whether she checked me out thoroughly enough, not that im an expert

but i didnt feel like she really examined them. She said that its

normal, but im not sure. One has been there for about 5-6 weeks now

and the other under my chin has just appeared. I was surfing the

web and found some info and diagrams explaining lymph nodes, and it

mentioned about lumps in the neck with pics illustrating areas where

i have mine. something to do with them being infected, which i feel

kinda fits as i have had quite bad colds over the past 6 weeks and

its still lingering. I have to have my ears syringed at the

beginning of next month so i am going to see how it all clears up,

if not i am going to go to a 3rd doctor get another opinion. Its

just kinda worrying things being there which in your own mind just

doesnt seem natural and the mind certainly wanders and plays evil

tricks on you..... trying to think good thoughts, dont down myself

with well........you know...which was on a hospital programme the

other day which really doesnt help!!!! Luckly i have a hectic few

weeks with starting back at uni and all, including a visit to the

plactic surgeon im having 6 inches added to my legs, lol.... only

joking. so i am going to try and put it to the back of my mind.

TRY Try TRY.,...

Thanks cammie.

I will be sure to keep you posted. Glad that you are ok from the

storm!!!! Stay well.

Kind regards

Kat_UK

- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , ceast36532

<no_reply@y...> wrote:

> Kat, I don't know anything about this. You are one of a very few

> people I know who got those dissolving plates and screws.

>

> Can you get through to your oral surgeon on the phone to ask him

> about this?

>

> I would definitely get in line to see a doc about it. Swollen

glands

> alone can be symptomatic of everything from an upper respiratory

> infection to... well, let's not go there. But best to get it

checked

> out, in any case.

>

> Cammie

>

>

> > Hi guys. I have a quick question for you. mainly aimed towards

> > those post op.

> >

> > Has anyone had or heard of lumps in the neck from surgery? I

know

> > its been 2 years since mine - but its around this time that my

> > plates and screws will be dissolving and im wondering if theres

a

> > link, hoping there is to prevent my mind trailing off and

thinking

> > other wise -arghhhhhhhhh..

> > I have what feels like a grissle lump just at the side of my

left

> > gland which has been there about 5-6 weeks now. Back then i had

a

> > really bad cold and had gone to see the nurse and she said it

was

> > probably just as my glands were up, could this be the smae lump

> just

> > on a linger? also i have just discovered one at the start of my

> neck

> > directly under my chin, i can grab this one more but it feels as

> > though it is more set than the other one. arghhhhhhhhh please

help

> > im going insaneeeeeeeeeeeee...... feel like some flea biten

animal

> > from the inside out, lol. trying to get an appointment at our

> > doctors is a nightmare, you can wait up to 3-4 weeks its

> > disgusting...explaining why i am going out of my mind. :{

> >

> > Hope those of you who were unfortunatley caught up in the bad

> > weather and hurricanes are ok..... i have been thinking of you.

> > good luck to all pre oppers with up coming surgery and to those

who

> > are recovering....

> >

> > thanks guys!!!!

> >

> > Kind regards

> >

> > Kat_UK

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Sure, I'll send it to you. But note that he does suggest the

possibility of that nasality that's troubling you.

And far as I know, the change in my friends voice is noted, but not

troublesome.

C.

> > >

> > > , et als --

> > >

> > > I still refuse to believe that there isn't an expert out there

> who

> > > can help with this question. So, I finally had an idea. I e-

> mailed

> > > the AAOMS with it, and got this nice reply today:

> > >

> > > Good Day!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I shared your e-mail with colleagues here at AAOMS

headquarters.

> > > They will contact some of our members to help you out. You

will

> > hear

> > > back from someone within a few days. Should that not happen,

> > please

> > > let me know.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cordially,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Marquita Hynes

> > >

> > > Senior Communications Associate

> > >

> > > American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons

> > >

> > > 9700 West Bryn Mawr Avenue

> > >

> > > Rosemont, Illinois 60018-5701

> > >

> > > www.aaoms.org

> > >

> > > , ext. 4317 fax:

> > >

> > > mhynes@a...

> > >

> > > My post to her:

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Cammie

> > >

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:29 PM

> > > To: inquiries

> > > Subject: singing and surgery

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Question, friends...

> > >

> > > I had orthognathic surgery two years ago, (simple, minimal

lower

> > > advancement and a bit of a sideways slide, in the hands of a

> genius

> > > at it, Dr. Greg Zieman of Mobile, Ala.) am happy and satisfied

> with

> > > the results. And I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, as the

> saying

> > > goes, before surgery, and still can't. But I became active in

> some

> > > online groups, which helped me a lot in calming my fears. There

> is

> > > now a young man who is, I believe, a professional singer, needs

> > > orthognathic surgery and is concerned about whether the surgery

> > will

> > > affect his voice.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have a good friend who is well-trained as a classical

musician

> (a

> > > violinist with a mom who sings lieder) and believes that her

> voice

> > > was lowered by the surgery -- upper, lower and genio. I can't

> hear

> > > it, but she can.

> > >

> > > Anyhow, the fellow facing the decision can't find a doc who

knows

> > > about singing, nor a voice coach who knows about surgery. I'm

> > > guessing that somewhere among your members there is likely to

be

> a

> > > singing surgeon who specializes in oral and maxillofacial

> troubles.

> > > Is that possible?

> > >

> > > Any help would be welcome.

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Back to me:

> > >

> > > I don't mind being the middle person, or you may want to

contact

> > the

> > > lady directly. If you do the latter, let her know where you're

> > coming

> > > from, and that it's the same inquiry, please. If I hear from a

> > > surgeon, I'll probably forward name etc., directly to ,

> unless

> > > there's someone else who's in the same quandary...

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Cammie

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Sure, I'll send it to you. But note that he does suggest the

possibility of that nasality that's troubling you.

And far as I know, the change in my friends voice is noted, but not

troublesome.

C.

> > >

> > > , et als --

> > >

> > > I still refuse to believe that there isn't an expert out there

> who

> > > can help with this question. So, I finally had an idea. I e-

> mailed

> > > the AAOMS with it, and got this nice reply today:

> > >

> > > Good Day!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I shared your e-mail with colleagues here at AAOMS

headquarters.

> > > They will contact some of our members to help you out. You

will

> > hear

> > > back from someone within a few days. Should that not happen,

> > please

> > > let me know.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cordially,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Marquita Hynes

> > >

> > > Senior Communications Associate

> > >

> > > American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons

> > >

> > > 9700 West Bryn Mawr Avenue

> > >

> > > Rosemont, Illinois 60018-5701

> > >

> > > www.aaoms.org

> > >

> > > , ext. 4317 fax:

> > >

> > > mhynes@a...

> > >

> > > My post to her:

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Cammie

> > >

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:29 PM

> > > To: inquiries

> > > Subject: singing and surgery

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Question, friends...

> > >

> > > I had orthognathic surgery two years ago, (simple, minimal

lower

> > > advancement and a bit of a sideways slide, in the hands of a

> genius

> > > at it, Dr. Greg Zieman of Mobile, Ala.) am happy and satisfied

> with

> > > the results. And I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, as the

> saying

> > > goes, before surgery, and still can't. But I became active in

> some

> > > online groups, which helped me a lot in calming my fears. There

> is

> > > now a young man who is, I believe, a professional singer, needs

> > > orthognathic surgery and is concerned about whether the surgery

> > will

> > > affect his voice.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have a good friend who is well-trained as a classical

musician

> (a

> > > violinist with a mom who sings lieder) and believes that her

> voice

> > > was lowered by the surgery -- upper, lower and genio. I can't

> hear

> > > it, but she can.

> > >

> > > Anyhow, the fellow facing the decision can't find a doc who

knows

> > > about singing, nor a voice coach who knows about surgery. I'm

> > > guessing that somewhere among your members there is likely to

be

> a

> > > singing surgeon who specializes in oral and maxillofacial

> troubles.

> > > Is that possible?

> > >

> > > Any help would be welcome.

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Back to me:

> > >

> > > I don't mind being the middle person, or you may want to

contact

> > the

> > > lady directly. If you do the latter, let her know where you're

> > coming

> > > from, and that it's the same inquiry, please. If I hear from a

> > > surgeon, I'll probably forward name etc., directly to ,

> unless

> > > there's someone else who's in the same quandary...

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Cammie

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