Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 > I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. <g> Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > A number of posters are discussing flakes. Though I'm not certain if > everyone is talking about the same phenomenon, I've noticed that when > my cheeks are most irritated/inflammed they tend to develop a half- > dozen white tissue-thin whisps that respond to moisturizering. I've > never tried to put foundation or tinted sunblock over them without > first moisturizing, and I've never noticed them in response to make- > up or other topicals, esp not immediately as some posters are > describing. > > But I did get a surprise entire faceful of these little flakers an > hour or so after applying Dr. Sy's VitaOil; I also had a more > traditional reaction, with itching and breakout. Each day it got > better, but it took days to completely clear. One of the weirdest > things on my face that I've ever seen. <g> > > I believe that my flakiness is somehow related to impaired barrier > function, since it clears up as my skin normalizes. I would think any > kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose the war, since > exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. > > Has anyone with this problem tried ignoring them for the moment, > leaving them on the face if need be though avoiding those things that > make them visually worse, while concentrating instead on good skin > hygiene for several weeks (Less is More daily cleansing and > moisturizing, nothing else)? I don't know if that's the answer, but > that would be the treatment for repairing an impaired barrier. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 > I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. <g> Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > A number of posters are discussing flakes. Though I'm not certain if > everyone is talking about the same phenomenon, I've noticed that when > my cheeks are most irritated/inflammed they tend to develop a half- > dozen white tissue-thin whisps that respond to moisturizering. I've > never tried to put foundation or tinted sunblock over them without > first moisturizing, and I've never noticed them in response to make- > up or other topicals, esp not immediately as some posters are > describing. > > But I did get a surprise entire faceful of these little flakers an > hour or so after applying Dr. Sy's VitaOil; I also had a more > traditional reaction, with itching and breakout. Each day it got > better, but it took days to completely clear. One of the weirdest > things on my face that I've ever seen. <g> > > I believe that my flakiness is somehow related to impaired barrier > function, since it clears up as my skin normalizes. I would think any > kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose the war, since > exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. > > Has anyone with this problem tried ignoring them for the moment, > leaving them on the face if need be though avoiding those things that > make them visually worse, while concentrating instead on good skin > hygiene for several weeks (Less is More daily cleansing and > moisturizing, nothing else)? I don't know if that's the answer, but > that would be the treatment for repairing an impaired barrier. > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 << I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. <g> >> ohhhhhhh. i thought you were inventing a new word. definition to follow? s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 << I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. <g> >> ohhhhhhh. i thought you were inventing a new word. definition to follow? s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 Hello, I am definitely of the belief that oil and moisturizers are bad for flakines in the long run. Flakiness (seb derm) is caused by pityrosporum yeast/fungus that feeds off oils. This is why people with dandruff are told to not use conditioners on their hair. Yes, moisturizers will soothe your skin and moisturize those dead skin flakes, but in the long run, you are just creating more of a problem. I recently stopped using my moisturizers. The first week or so was awful- I felt like my whole face was falling off. But after a week or so, the flakes died down. I was also perscribed diflucan (10 days) and Loprox cream which I think both helped a lot. -Adam staceyiseman@... wrote: << I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. >> ohhhhhhh. i thought you were inventing a new word. definition to follow? s. -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 Hello, I am definitely of the belief that oil and moisturizers are bad for flakines in the long run. Flakiness (seb derm) is caused by pityrosporum yeast/fungus that feeds off oils. This is why people with dandruff are told to not use conditioners on their hair. Yes, moisturizers will soothe your skin and moisturize those dead skin flakes, but in the long run, you are just creating more of a problem. I recently stopped using my moisturizers. The first week or so was awful- I felt like my whole face was falling off. But after a week or so, the flakes died down. I was also perscribed diflucan (10 days) and Loprox cream which I think both helped a lot. -Adam staceyiseman@... wrote: << I would think any kind of exfoliation would win the battle but lose > the war, since exfoliation would make the barrier more impermiable. I obviously meant *more permeable*. That must be why I misspelled it too. >> ohhhhhhh. i thought you were inventing a new word. definition to follow? s. -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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