Rice DOES swell . . . painfully!

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ, . . . depending on the type of rice, and how much it is

cooked *it can & does swell*. I can only assume that you don't have a lot of

experience with short grain and sticky rices.

Rice is best served al dente, as is pasta. Unfortunately, both of these will

*swell*, if eaten al dente. Sushi rice is particularly bothersome, as it is

served al dente, and is short grained . . .

Basmati rice is better, well cooked. Next are the other longer grained rices,

also well cooked.

Also, be aware that many starches can be stuffed down in large amounts with no

painful consequences, other than slowed weight loss, or gain. YMMV. I eat

protein first, because (in part) it temporarily blocks stoma, producing an

earlier feeling of full. I can eat carbs all day and not feel full, as the

carbs are soft enough to go thru the pouch without stopping. This is why they

were included in your soft foods plan.

You are, of course, always welcome to prove me wrong . . . eat some dense

protein, then eat rice that *hasn't* been cooked to death. Rice that is firm to

bite, not crunchy, just chewy. DOn't call an ambulance when you feel like

you're having a heart attack. Just go walk around outside, and wait for 15-20

min. Or throw up. It helps if, when you start getting foamy, you spit out the

foam, instead of swallowing. Swallowing saliva makes the problem worse.

From: bosarge3@...

Subject: Re: first dumping episode

Rice does not expand in your stomach unless it is raw. That is why the

birds

die is because the raw rice absorbs moisture and then it swells up,

but what

we eat is cooked and therefore it does not swell when eaten. Rice was

included in my soft food stage.

A. B.

LAP RNY 3/22/03

Hawkridge in Washington State.

[Guest guest]

I beg to differ, . . . depending on the type of rice, and how much it is

cooked *it can & does swell*. I can only assume that you don't have a lot of

experience with short grain and sticky rices.

Rice is best served al dente, as is pasta. Unfortunately, both of these will

*swell*, if eaten al dente. Sushi rice is particularly bothersome, as it is

served al dente, and is short grained . . .

Basmati rice is better, well cooked. Next are the other longer grained rices,

also well cooked.

Also, be aware that many starches can be stuffed down in large amounts with no

painful consequences, other than slowed weight loss, or gain. YMMV. I eat

protein first, because (in part) it temporarily blocks stoma, producing an

earlier feeling of full. I can eat carbs all day and not feel full, as the

carbs are soft enough to go thru the pouch without stopping. This is why they

were included in your soft foods plan.

You are, of course, always welcome to prove me wrong . . . eat some dense

protein, then eat rice that *hasn't* been cooked to death. Rice that is firm to

bite, not crunchy, just chewy. DOn't call an ambulance when you feel like

you're having a heart attack. Just go walk around outside, and wait for 15-20

min. Or throw up. It helps if, when you start getting foamy, you spit out the

foam, instead of swallowing. Swallowing saliva makes the problem worse.

From: bosarge3@...

Subject: Re: first dumping episode

Rice does not expand in your stomach unless it is raw. That is why the

birds

die is because the raw rice absorbs moisture and then it swells up,

but what

we eat is cooked and therefore it does not swell when eaten. Rice was

included in my soft food stage.

A. B.

LAP RNY 3/22/03

Hawkridge in Washington State.