Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 What a generous thing to post! I always asked for a side of diflucan back when the gyno prescribed antibiotics for my yeast infections. Now I know why. > > Hi everyone - I've been away for a while - holidays, 2 hard drive > crashes (blasted Dell computer!) out of town visitors, and a trip to > see the folks at Thoughtful House in Austin, TX. This is where Dr. > Jepson/Krigsman/Wakefield practice. > > We are going to do their program/protocol to see if we're missing > something biomedically. I did learn some interesting things and > thought I would pass them on.... > > 1. Anytime our kids get sick enough to warrant an antibiotic, it is > important to start a probiotic + an antifungal the day after you > finish your last dose of medication. The antifungal part was news > to me. I knew about the probiotic. Their reasoning is that the > antibiotic wipes out everything, and the antifungal prevents an > overgrowth of fungus. Yikes! > > 2. They work with a compounding pharmacy for > multivitamins/minerals. In their words, chewables just don't give > enough of what you need - plus they have fillers/sugars/colors that > our kids just don't need. Another Yikes! My kids don't swallow > pills so I've got my fingers crossed that the liquid will taste > somewhat good. > > 3. Fish oil - they recommend Promax(?) Ultra pure fish oil - > supposedly so delicious that they will suck the spoon clean!! > They say this one is purest and has the best EPA/DHA ratios of all > out there. *I need to check that name again - don't have a hard > copy of recommendations yet* > > 4. Urine/stool tests for yeast/fungus/bacteria/parasites - treat as > needed > > 5. After 3 months on new vitamins, check blood levels to see what > they are absorbing and what needs tweaking. If all looks well, then > pre and post challenge tests to check heavy metals. Pre - urine > collection day before challenge. Post - urine collection after > challenge (DMSA) to compare what is coming out. Determine if levels > require chelation. > > 6. If chelation is needed, strict guidelines on blood/liver > functions for duration of chelation. > > 7. Clean, organic diet, naturally. They want us CFGF (again!) for > at least 6 months. Enzymes to support healthy gut. Don't know > which ones yet. > > 8. Check immune system - supplement if needed to regulate > > 9. Neurotransmitters - not really clear on this one, but it is down > on the list. I do remember him saying that a lot of kids are way > off on seratonin levels. > > I wasn't really that surprised - I knew most of this stuff from my > hundreds of hours reading and our earlier experiences. I did learn > that the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months. So, if you are > monitoring absorbtion, you would want to check blood after 3 months > of taking supplements to see what your levels are. Just because you > are taking x amount of x doesn't mean that your body is absorbing > that much. You may need more or less. > > So, here we go again - the list taped inside the kitchen cabinet so > I can make sure we took everything for the day. The watching and > monitoring. I'm not looking for a miracle, but I do want truely > healthy kids with clean, optimally functioning guts. Maybe the > brain will work a little bit better as well? > > Take care ya'll and I'll keep you posted on brands and dosing. > > cheers and happy new year!! > Stephanee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Excellent! yes, thanks - they are top notch over at thaughtful house. did they mention doing HBOT? I've got to tell you that our gut issues, immune issues, yeast and bacteria - seem to be gone after doing 40 dives in a hard chamber with 100% oxygen. We spent 1.5 years building him up w/ supplements- probiotics, diet and hbot was the cake topper. I feel so much better about focusing on chelation knowing that he's so much healthier. I'm very interested in their choice of fish oil - can you check your notes, and post where to get it. I'm using Nordic Naturals assuming that is " the best " . I'm using spectrum for myself but now that i'm preggo - i think i may step it up on the purity/quality. Yes, on the Serotonin - Dr. Rossignal told me to get a low dose lithium to deal with his fragile behavior. But even that has improved after hbot. There was a day when we couldn't so much as whisper the word " no " , he would fall into a puddle. Again, thanks for posting - > > > > Hi everyone - I've been away for a while - holidays, 2 hard drive > > crashes (blasted Dell computer!) out of town visitors, and a trip > to > > see the folks at Thoughtful House in Austin, TX. This is where Dr. > > Jepson/Krigsman/Wakefield practice. > > > > We are going to do their program/protocol to see if we're missing > > something biomedically. I did learn some interesting things and > > thought I would pass them on.... > > > > 1. Anytime our kids get sick enough to warrant an antibiotic, it > is > > important to start a probiotic + an antifungal the day after you > > finish your last dose of medication. The antifungal part was news > > to me. I knew about the probiotic. Their reasoning is that the > > antibiotic wipes out everything, and the antifungal prevents an > > overgrowth of fungus. Yikes! > > > > 2. They work with a compounding pharmacy for > > multivitamins/minerals. In their words, chewables just don't give > > enough of what you need - plus they have fillers/sugars/colors that > > our kids just don't need. Another Yikes! My kids don't swallow > > pills so I've got my fingers crossed that the liquid will taste > > somewhat good. > > > > 3. Fish oil - they recommend Promax(?) Ultra pure fish oil - > > supposedly so delicious that they will suck the spoon clean!! > > They say this one is purest and has the best EPA/DHA ratios of all > > out there. *I need to check that name again - don't have a hard > > copy of recommendations yet* > > > > 4. Urine/stool tests for yeast/fungus/bacteria/parasites - treat > as > > needed > > > > 5. After 3 months on new vitamins, check blood levels to see what > > they are absorbing and what needs tweaking. If all looks well, > then > > pre and post challenge tests to check heavy metals. Pre - urine > > collection day before challenge. Post - urine collection after > > challenge (DMSA) to compare what is coming out. Determine if > levels > > require chelation. > > > > 6. If chelation is needed, strict guidelines on blood/liver > > functions for duration of chelation. > > > > 7. Clean, organic diet, naturally. They want us CFGF (again!) for > > at least 6 months. Enzymes to support healthy gut. Don't know > > which ones yet. > > > > 8. Check immune system - supplement if needed to regulate > > > > 9. Neurotransmitters - not really clear on this one, but it is > down > > on the list. I do remember him saying that a lot of kids are way > > off on seratonin levels. > > > > I wasn't really that surprised - I knew most of this stuff from my > > hundreds of hours reading and our earlier experiences. I did learn > > that the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months. So, if you are > > monitoring absorbtion, you would want to check blood after 3 months > > of taking supplements to see what your levels are. Just because > you > > are taking x amount of x doesn't mean that your body is absorbing > > that much. You may need more or less. > > > > So, here we go again - the list taped inside the kitchen cabinet so > > I can make sure we took everything for the day. The watching and > > monitoring. I'm not looking for a miracle, but I do want truely > > healthy kids with clean, optimally functioning guts. Maybe the > > brain will work a little bit better as well? > > > > Take care ya'll and I'll keep you posted on brands and dosing. > > > > cheers and happy new year!! > > Stephanee > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Thank you Stephanee, Printing your post off right now! Janice [sPAM][ ] Re: Our visit to Dr. Jepson's Thoughtful House What a generous thing to post! I always asked for a side of diflucan back when the gyno prescribed antibiotics for my yeast infections. Now I know why. > > Hi everyone - I've been away for a while - holidays, 2 hard drive > crashes (blasted Dell computer!) out of town visitors, and a trip to > see the folks at Thoughtful House in Austin, TX. This is where Dr. > Jepson/Krigsman/Wakefield practice. > > We are going to do their program/protocol to see if we're missing > something biomedically. I did learn some interesting things and > thought I would pass them on.... > > 1. Anytime our kids get sick enough to warrant an antibiotic, it is > important to start a probiotic + an antifungal the day after you > finish your last dose of medication. The antifungal part was news > to me. I knew about the probiotic. Their reasoning is that the > antibiotic wipes out everything, and the antifungal prevents an > overgrowth of fungus. Yikes! > > 2. They work with a compounding pharmacy for > multivitamins/minerals. In their words, chewables just don't give > enough of what you need - plus they have fillers/sugars/colors that > our kids just don't need. Another Yikes! My kids don't swallow > pills so I've got my fingers crossed that the liquid will taste > somewhat good. > > 3. Fish oil - they recommend Promax(?) Ultra pure fish oil - > supposedly so delicious that they will suck the spoon clean!! > They say this one is purest and has the best EPA/DHA ratios of all > out there. *I need to check that name again - don't have a hard > copy of recommendations yet* > > 4. Urine/stool tests for yeast/fungus/bacteria/parasites - treat as > needed > > 5. After 3 months on new vitamins, check blood levels to see what > they are absorbing and what needs tweaking. If all looks well, then > pre and post challenge tests to check heavy metals. Pre - urine > collection day before challenge. Post - urine collection after > challenge (DMSA) to compare what is coming out. Determine if levels > require chelation. > > 6. If chelation is needed, strict guidelines on blood/liver > functions for duration of chelation. > > 7. Clean, organic diet, naturally. They want us CFGF (again!) for > at least 6 months. Enzymes to support healthy gut. Don't know > which ones yet. > > 8. Check immune system - supplement if needed to regulate > > 9. Neurotransmitters - not really clear on this one, but it is down > on the list. I do remember him saying that a lot of kids are way > off on seratonin levels. > > I wasn't really that surprised - I knew most of this stuff from my > hundreds of hours reading and our earlier experiences. I did learn > that the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months. So, if you are > monitoring absorbtion, you would want to check blood after 3 months > of taking supplements to see what your levels are. Just because you > are taking x amount of x doesn't mean that your body is absorbing > that much. You may need more or less. > > So, here we go again - the list taped inside the kitchen cabinet so > I can make sure we took everything for the day. The watching and > monitoring. I'm not looking for a miracle, but I do want truely > healthy kids with clean, optimally functioning guts. Maybe the > brain will work a little bit better as well? > > Take care ya'll and I'll keep you posted on brands and dosing. > > cheers and happy new year!! > Stephanee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 You are quite welcome, Janice! Liz, what a sweet thing to say. I wanted to share with everyone as groups like this have helped us tremendously in the past. Not everyone has access to places such as Thoughtful House and it is the least that I can do to share our experience and what they are doing. Let's all keep our fingers crossed as I'm thinking there is something nasty residing in the kid's guts. Maybe we can finally clear it up. It will be nice to have an Rx for once vs. hoping and praying that the herbals work. Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the naturals, but there is a time and a place for a prescription. Cheers - Stephanee > > > > Hi everyone - I've been away for a while - holidays, 2 hard drive > > crashes (blasted Dell computer!) out of town visitors, and a trip > to > > see the folks at Thoughtful House in Austin, TX. This is where Dr. > > Jepson/Krigsman/Wakefield practice. > > > > We are going to do their program/protocol to see if we're missing > > something biomedically. I did learn some interesting things and > > thought I would pass them on.... > > > > 1. Anytime our kids get sick enough to warrant an antibiotic, it > is > > important to start a probiotic + an antifungal the day after you > > finish your last dose of medication. The antifungal part was news > > to me. I knew about the probiotic. Their reasoning is that the > > antibiotic wipes out everything, and the antifungal prevents an > > overgrowth of fungus. Yikes! > > > > 2. They work with a compounding pharmacy for > > multivitamins/minerals. In their words, chewables just don't give > > enough of what you need - plus they have fillers/sugars/colors that > > our kids just don't need. Another Yikes! My kids don't swallow > > pills so I've got my fingers crossed that the liquid will taste > > somewhat good. > > > > 3. Fish oil - they recommend Promax(?) Ultra pure fish oil - > > supposedly so delicious that they will suck the spoon clean!! > > They say this one is purest and has the best EPA/DHA ratios of all > > out there. *I need to check that name again - don't have a hard > > copy of recommendations yet* > > > > 4. Urine/stool tests for yeast/fungus/bacteria/parasites - treat > as > > needed > > > > 5. After 3 months on new vitamins, check blood levels to see what > > they are absorbing and what needs tweaking. If all looks well, > then > > pre and post challenge tests to check heavy metals. Pre - urine > > collection day before challenge. Post - urine collection after > > challenge (DMSA) to compare what is coming out. Determine if > levels > > require chelation. > > > > 6. If chelation is needed, strict guidelines on blood/liver > > functions for duration of chelation. > > > > 7. Clean, organic diet, naturally. They want us CFGF (again!) for > > at least 6 months. Enzymes to support healthy gut. Don't know > > which ones yet. > > > > 8. Check immune system - supplement if needed to regulate > > > > 9. Neurotransmitters - not really clear on this one, but it is > down > > on the list. I do remember him saying that a lot of kids are way > > off on seratonin levels. > > > > I wasn't really that surprised - I knew most of this stuff from my > > hundreds of hours reading and our earlier experiences. I did learn > > that the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months. So, if you are > > monitoring absorbtion, you would want to check blood after 3 months > > of taking supplements to see what your levels are. Just because > you > > are taking x amount of x doesn't mean that your body is absorbing > > that much. You may need more or less. > > > > So, here we go again - the list taped inside the kitchen cabinet so > > I can make sure we took everything for the day. The watching and > > monitoring. I'm not looking for a miracle, but I do want truely > > healthy kids with clean, optimally functioning guts. Maybe the > > brain will work a little bit better as well? > > > > Take care ya'll and I'll keep you posted on brands and dosing. > > > > cheers and happy new year!! > > Stephanee > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thoughtful House, Dr. Jepson, Dr. McCandless, Dr. Usman, Dr. Rimland, etc. etc. the next great Dr.! Our heros! Thanks to these and many more who remain unknown.... the men who are saving our children..... Stephanee, I would die and go to heaven to be a client of Thoughtful House. If my relationship ever breaks up, I`m packing my bags and moving to Austin! Thats a promise! Thank you so much for your detailing of this experience.... My doctor called Friday wanting to see me..... scared what the iron tests may reveal but Mark is doing so well. He has a cold this week.... and he actually has the cold! No, half day cold which eerily disappears mid-virus...... Is it not strange to be so excited to have a cold for a whole 5 days.... You girls are the only ones who understand this type of strange joy! Janice [sPAM][ ] Re: Our visit to Dr. Jepson's Thoughtful House You are quite welcome, Janice! Liz, what a sweet thing to say. I wanted to share with everyone as groups like this have helped us tremendously in the past. Not everyone has access to places such as Thoughtful House and it is the least that I can do to share our experience and what they are doing. Let's all keep our fingers crossed as I'm thinking there is something nasty residing in the kid's guts. Maybe we can finally clear it up. It will be nice to have an Rx for once vs. hoping and praying that the herbals work. Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the naturals, but there is a time and a place for a prescription. Cheers - Stephanee > > > > Hi everyone - I've been away for a while - holidays, 2 hard drive > > crashes (blasted Dell computer!) out of town visitors, and a trip > to > > see the folks at Thoughtful House in Austin, TX. This is where Dr. > > Jepson/Krigsman/Wakefield practice. > > > > We are going to do their program/protocol to see if we're missing > > something biomedically. I did learn some interesting things and > > thought I would pass them on.... > > > > 1. Anytime our kids get sick enough to warrant an antibiotic, it > is > > important to start a probiotic + an antifungal the day after you > > finish your last dose of medication. The antifungal part was news > > to me. I knew about the probiotic. Their reasoning is that the > > antibiotic wipes out everything, and the antifungal prevents an > > overgrowth of fungus. Yikes! > > > > 2. They work with a compounding pharmacy for > > multivitamins/minerals. In their words, chewables just don't give > > enough of what you need - plus they have fillers/sugars/colors that > > our kids just don't need. Another Yikes! My kids don't swallow > > pills so I've got my fingers crossed that the liquid will taste > > somewhat good. > > > > 3. Fish oil - they recommend Promax(?) Ultra pure fish oil - > > supposedly so delicious that they will suck the spoon clean!! > > They say this one is purest and has the best EPA/DHA ratios of all > > out there. *I need to check that name again - don't have a hard > > copy of recommendations yet* > > > > 4. Urine/stool tests for yeast/fungus/bacteria/parasites - treat > as > > needed > > > > 5. After 3 months on new vitamins, check blood levels to see what > > they are absorbing and what needs tweaking. If all looks well, > then > > pre and post challenge tests to check heavy metals. Pre - urine > > collection day before challenge. Post - urine collection after > > challenge (DMSA) to compare what is coming out. Determine if > levels > > require chelation. > > > > 6. If chelation is needed, strict guidelines on blood/liver > > functions for duration of chelation. > > > > 7. Clean, organic diet, naturally. They want us CFGF (again!) for > > at least 6 months. Enzymes to support healthy gut. Don't know > > which ones yet. > > > > 8. Check immune system - supplement if needed to regulate > > > > 9. Neurotransmitters - not really clear on this one, but it is > down > > on the list. I do remember him saying that a lot of kids are way > > off on seratonin levels. > > > > I wasn't really that surprised - I knew most of this stuff from my > > hundreds of hours reading and our earlier experiences. I did learn > > that the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months. So, if you are > > monitoring absorbtion, you would want to check blood after 3 months > > of taking supplements to see what your levels are. Just because > you > > are taking x amount of x doesn't mean that your body is absorbing > > that much. You may need more or less. > > > > So, here we go again - the list taped inside the kitchen cabinet so > > I can make sure we took everything for the day. The watching and > > monitoring. I'm not looking for a miracle, but I do want truely > > healthy kids with clean, optimally functioning guts. Maybe the > > brain will work a little bit better as well? > > > > Take care ya'll and I'll keep you posted on brands and dosing. > > > > cheers and happy new year!! > > Stephanee > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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