Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hi, I attended the Mini-DAN! in ville today. One of the speakers, O'Hara, mentioned a ratio of 4:3:1 for DHA/EPA/GLA. The amount of the three fatty acids, combined, should be 1G or more. She said that there is not too much oil in the diet until the stool has oil in it. When there is oil in the poop, back down slightly. She also said to start low and increase incrementally until you got to that point. My son, who used to be on Adderall for ADHD and Tenex for rages, no longer needs them b/c he is doing so well on zinc (a high dose, based on his RBC Elements test), and EFAs in the ratio above. He is 45 lbs, and took 1.1G DHA, 512mg EPA and 260mg GLA daily for more than six months. We use " Mega DHA " caps and Evening Primrose Oil from Nature's Way to get those high doses. We cleared the doses with our ped and DAN! doc, who likes a higher DHA than EPA ratio. We recently had a " Better Brains " profile blood test to check ds's EFA levels. The levels were fine, but his GLA was on the high end of normal, so we have dropped back on the EPO from daily to every other day. HIH, > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. My focus is on hyperactivity. From what I read the > american diet has already to much Omega 6 so is there any sense > supplementing that such as the NN Omega complete? The studies I've > seen all point to the omega 3's for hyperactivity. See the link below. > Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for > hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=16920077 > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 For this combo of fish oils; 4:3:1, DHA/EPA/GLA, you can just add EPO or flax oil to regular old NN Cod Liver Oil as it has the 4:3 of DHA to EPA. [ ] Re: Fish oil confusion Hi, I attended the Mini-DAN! in ville today. One of the speakers, O'Hara, mentioned a ratio of 4:3:1 for DHA/EPA/GLA. The amount of the three fatty acids, combined, should be 1G or more. She said that there is not too much oil in the diet until the stool has oil in it. When there is oil in the poop, back down slightly. She also said to start low and increase incrementally until you got to that point. My son, who used to be on Adderall for ADHD and Tenex for rages, no longer needs them b/c he is doing so well on zinc (a high dose, based on his RBC Elements test), and EFAs in the ratio above. He is 45 lbs, and took 1.1G DHA, 512mg EPA and 260mg GLA daily for more than six months. We use " Mega DHA " caps and Evening Primrose Oil from Nature's Way to get those high doses. We cleared the doses with our ped and DAN! doc, who likes a higher DHA than EPA ratio. We recently had a " Better Brains " profile blood test to check ds's EFA levels. The levels were fine, but his GLA was on the high end of normal, so we have dropped back on the EPO from daily to every other day. HIH, > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. My focus is on hyperactivity. From what I read the > american diet has already to much Omega 6 so is there any sense > supplementing that such as the NN Omega complete? The studies I've > seen all point to the omega 3's for hyperactivity. See the link below. > Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for > hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=16920077 > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. > Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for > hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? Maybe I'm just thick-headed and lazy, but I never managed to work this out on paper. I just tried different combinations and things suggested here until I found something that worked. In my son's case, the wrong oil or combo brought anger within a few days. What eventually worked was NN's ProEFA. Improvements in coordination mostly, maybe some focus too -- which also meant some confidence and calmness. For him, the hyper thing only gets bad with a viral surge. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 For awhile the recommendation was the ProEFA as it was thought that Epa could be converted to Dha but as time went by it was found that for the majority of kids higher Dha is preferred for focus/brain development, higher Epa better for hyperactive kids and/or kids with mood problems. Our's was hyperactive in the beginning, but just regular NN clo was miraculous and did not make her more hyper or create any further mood problems and it is the higher Dha product. Most of the infant formulas now include Dha, not Epa for brain development that mirrors breast milk. Again, kid specific, use what works best for your kid. [ ] Re: Fish oil confusion > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. > Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for > hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? Maybe I'm just thick-headed and lazy, but I never managed to work this out on paper. I just tried different combinations and things suggested here until I found something that worked. In my son's case, the wrong oil or combo brought anger within a few days. What eventually worked was NN's ProEFA. Improvements in coordination mostly, maybe some focus too -- which also meant some confidence and calmness. For him, the hyper thing only gets bad with a viral surge. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. My focus is on hyperactivity. From what I read the > american diet has already to much Omega 6 so is there any sense > supplementing that such as the NN Omega complete? I read that it has too much Omega 9. Maybe it has too much of both? My son needed mito cocktail and amino acids before he tolerated EFAs. And then, I had to preload him for several months with Omega 6 before he would tolerate Omega 3. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 > > I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil > to give my son. My focus is on hyperactivity. From what I read the > american diet has already to much Omega 6 so is there any sense > supplementing that such as the NN Omega complete? The studies I've > seen all point to the omega 3's for hyperactivity. See the link below. > Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for > hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=16920077 > > Thanks > " From what I read the american diet has already to much Omega 6 " You have to consider the generality of this comment first of all. Does your child eat a regular diet like all of these American's they are talking about? I think your safe to go ahead and supplement your Omega 6 and as for Omega 3 I personally use the fish oil provided by Kirkman Labs (kirkmanlabs.com) They make fish oils designed for kids with autism. The oil is not extracted from dead fish, like most oils are. The oils that is used is metal free, they have no gelatin soy yeast gluten, ECT. When it comes to hyper activity the best thing I have found is L- Carnitine. You also have to take a look at what your child eats. How much sugar is the child getting and how much yeast? Both of these are huge factors in the child's activity level. Sugar is everywhere in almost everything. Try switching the type of juice an/or milk your child drinks. We use the gerber brand juices because they have the least amount of sugar we can find. We also dilute half water and half juice. The milk we give my son is gluten free rice milk, this also has the least amount of sugar and no gluten, a double bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 You may be interested in Dr. Stoll's book on Omega 3's. He breaks it all down. There is a chapter in there about ADHD. It's called " The Omega 3 Connection " by Dr. A Stoll. Pamela " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of markautismcharge Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: [ ] Fish oil confusion I'm still having diffucutly trying to decide what combintation of oil to give my son. My focus is on hyperactivity. From what I read the american diet has already to much Omega 6 so is there any sense supplementing that such as the NN Omega complete? The studies I've seen all point to the omega 3's for hyperactivity. See the link below. Is anyone using any of Omega 3 formulas from noridc naturals for hyperactivity? If so which ones? Pro EPA, Pro DHA, Omega 3? http://www.ncbi. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?> nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=16920077 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 My son has a 5 month speech delay (diagnosed in early Dec). Recommend speech once a week. But with the holidays--it seems to have slowed down the process and he has yet to have his first session. I think this is mostly because I wanted an in-home therapist, they are looking for one. They called me 2 wks ago, and then again 4 days ago that they have someone who should call me before the end of the week. I am patient...and am giving them til the end of today to set something up. While I have had time on my hands--I have been googling. I think they will discover my son has verbal apraxia. Coincidentally, a few weeks earlier, I had started him on the Lil Critters Omega 3's--for the obvious benefits. I later discovered fish oils can be beneficial with apraxia. What strength should I be giving him? I keep finding stuff on ProEFA....and then I see the Jr strength. And I am just not sure what route to go. For those who started their kids on fish oils, how quickly did you notice changes? I have actually seen some improvements with the Lil Critters...I am wondering if I should go stronger? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 You don't want him on until after the eval, which should not take this long. > > My son has a 5 month speech delay (diagnosed in early Dec). Recommend > speech once a week. But with the holidays--it seems to have slowed > down the process and he has yet to have his first session. I think > this is mostly because I wanted an in-home therapist, they are looking > for one. They called me 2 wks ago, and then again 4 days ago that they > have someone who should call me before the end of the week. I am > patient...and am giving them til the end of today to set something up. > While I have had time on my hands--I have been googling. I think they > will discover my son has verbal apraxia. Coincidentally, a few weeks > earlier, I had started him on the Lil Critters Omega 3's--for the > obvious benefits. I later discovered fish oils can be beneficial with > apraxia. What strength should I be giving him? I keep finding stuff > on ProEFA....and then I see the Jr strength. And I am just not sure > what route to go. For those who started their kids on fish oils, how > quickly did you notice changes? I have actually seen some improvements > with the Lil Critters...I am wondering if I should go stronger? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i just don't want my young girls to go overboard. i'd reallly like them to go back on clo like they did during winter mos. there is quite a bit required i see and obviously don't know for sure if we're meeting them on a daily basis. we spend quite a bit of time in the sun though. > > > > i've read two different articles on your site. one says to take cod liver oil in the summer bec. we probably still don't get enough vit. d from the sun. the other says to take fish oil + vit. a in the summer and clo in the winter. which is correct? > > > +++Hi , > > " IF " a person can meet all of the requirements for making vitamin D on the skin during the Summer, they don't need to take vitamin D, however it is almost impossible for most people today meet those requirements - see this article: > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sun.php > > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 > > i just don't want my young girls to go overboard. i'd reallly like them to go back on clo like they did during winter mos. there is quite a bit required i see and obviously don't know for sure if we're meeting them on a daily basis. we spend quite a bit of time in the sun though. +++Hi , I just replied to your earlier questions about this, and here's the quote from my article I gave you: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sun.php " Some people may worry that if they are in the sun a lot they will overdose on Vitamin D. However this doesn't happen, and here's why. When you're exposed to the sun, the UVB rays creates vitamin D on your skin, while the UVA rays in the sunlight will tend to destroy excessive levels of vitamin D circulating in your body. That means that even " if " you are taking vitamin D and also getting it from the sun, the UVA rays in sunlight won't allow you to have too much vitamin D. " Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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