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For cleansing, I've tried quite a lot of stuff, and have given up. I just wash

with mildly warm water, once a day. It's all my dry, inflammed skin can cope

with. For me, this is the least bad washing solution.

Also, I seem tohave more lines under my eyes than is usual for people of my age

(31). I just wondered if anyone else had noticed this as a symptom of seb derm

or rosacea.

best wishes,

jesse

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For cleansing, I've tried quite a lot of stuff, and have given up. I just wash

with mildly warm water, once a day. It's all my dry, inflammed skin can cope

with. For me, this is the least bad washing solution.

Also, I seem tohave more lines under my eyes than is usual for people of my age

(31). I just wondered if anyone else had noticed this as a symptom of seb derm

or rosacea.

best wishes,

jesse

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, look up some old posts that talk about the relationship

between irritated, inflamed skin and dry skin. They'll explain what's

going on: irritation/inflammation from any source breaks down the

epithelial protective barrier, which allows water to leave the skin

(leaving it dry) and anything put on the skin to be more easily

absorbed (increasing skin sensitivity and so

irritation/inflammation).

Lines around the eyes are the first to appear on the face, and are

usually the result of hereditary and long term damage from prior sun

exposure, not conditions like rosacea or seb derm. But lines anywhere

on the face will always appear worse when the skin is dry and

inflammed.

Keep in mind that water is regarded as a mild irritant, esp when

warm, and won't effectively remove sunblock which is unfortunately

necessary for long term care of rosacea. Too cold water damages the

skin, but many find they are less sensitive to cleansers when using

cool water.

I've been using very tiny amounts of cea Care, which suds up well

and removes my Super City Block without irritating my face. I haven't

found a totally inert protective barrier yet, so I've been going

without these days.

Has anyone try water-based petroleum jelly as a protective barrier?

That should be inert, and might avoid some of the problems I

experienced with oils?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> For cleansing, I've tried quite a lot of stuff, and have given up.

I just wash with mildly warm water, once a day. It's all my dry,

inflammed skin can cope with. For me, this is the least bad washing

solution.

>

> Also, I seem tohave more lines under my eyes than is usual for

people of my age (31). I just wondered if anyone else had noticed

this as a symptom of seb derm or rosacea.

>

> best wishes,

>

> jesse

>

>

>

>

>

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, look up some old posts that talk about the relationship

between irritated, inflamed skin and dry skin. They'll explain what's

going on: irritation/inflammation from any source breaks down the

epithelial protective barrier, which allows water to leave the skin

(leaving it dry) and anything put on the skin to be more easily

absorbed (increasing skin sensitivity and so

irritation/inflammation).

Lines around the eyes are the first to appear on the face, and are

usually the result of hereditary and long term damage from prior sun

exposure, not conditions like rosacea or seb derm. But lines anywhere

on the face will always appear worse when the skin is dry and

inflammed.

Keep in mind that water is regarded as a mild irritant, esp when

warm, and won't effectively remove sunblock which is unfortunately

necessary for long term care of rosacea. Too cold water damages the

skin, but many find they are less sensitive to cleansers when using

cool water.

I've been using very tiny amounts of cea Care, which suds up well

and removes my Super City Block without irritating my face. I haven't

found a totally inert protective barrier yet, so I've been going

without these days.

Has anyone try water-based petroleum jelly as a protective barrier?

That should be inert, and might avoid some of the problems I

experienced with oils?

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> For cleansing, I've tried quite a lot of stuff, and have given up.

I just wash with mildly warm water, once a day. It's all my dry,

inflammed skin can cope with. For me, this is the least bad washing

solution.

>

> Also, I seem tohave more lines under my eyes than is usual for

people of my age (31). I just wondered if anyone else had noticed

this as a symptom of seb derm or rosacea.

>

> best wishes,

>

> jesse

>

>

>

>

>

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