Notes to several, note on carbs

[Guest guest]

Crystal -

It's generally accepted that about 2 hours is the time to wait between shakes,

or in separating calcium/iron, etc. For max. absorption, that is. However, if

I am having cravings, or *need* something, I'll have anextra shake. I don't

care if I don't absorb it all, if it keeps me from going nuts, or eating sugar,

or something . . . )

Mimi -

30 grams of protein *per shake*, which should be drunk within 30 min. Letting

them sit around grows bacteria. I drink 6 shakes/day, each with 30 grams of

protein. 180 grams/day total . . .

Deb Dancer -

You parallel *me*? Are you mutant, too, or what? ;o) Hope things are going

well for you, personally, and it sounds like you're doing great weight loss

wise. I gotta cut some of the junk outta my diet. Too much in the way of carbs

lately . . . I actually ate noodles the other day! (with bad result, might I

say?)

To everyone else . . .

I am not really carbophobic. I can't eat them. If you want to eat fruit

everyday, and know that it has a lot of sugar, and 1 piece of fruit is prolly 4

servings . . . go ahead. It's your body, your choice, and your weight loss. I

just want you to know that volume-wise, any piece of fruit is prolly 4 servings,

that it has a lot of sugar, and that it may slow you down. OK, maybe I am

carbophobic, but it's because I feel the results everyday. I experience the ups

and down in blood sugars, the *BIG NAPS* (late dumping), the cravings later.

The funny thing is that while everyone thinks I'm a mutant, most people I talk

to experience at least some of these consequences. Somehow they think " it's the

surgery " , or that it's worth it, or something. Or they don't connect the cause

and effect.

I try to get some carbs from veggies, the occasional 1/4 of an apple or a couple

of berries, or low carb bread. Eating noodles, rice, bread, etc. makes me dump,

and usually messes with my guts for a day or two. I am *very* sensitive to

simple carbs (sugars and white flour) - not my choice, but that's how it is. I

apparently always have been, and that is a large part of the reason I was fat.

And while I am convinced that the true experts in nutrition (research

scientists, people who actually do study nutrition, as opposed to learing the

Gov. pyramid, etc.) are proving everyday that it's the sugar we eat, and not the

fat, not everyone believes this. I do know that we malabsorb at least *some*

fat, and sugar is still absorbed from lips all the way to toilet. IMNHO, it's

better to have half a slice of heavy, whole grain bread, toasted, with butter

and SF jam (not the low sugar, really SF, like Harry & 's) than fruit.

More fiber, less carbs, *much* less sugar!

As always, all opinions expressed here are only my opinions. YMMV.

, who's on her way outside to enjoy a PNW " sunbreak " !

Hawkridge in Washington State.

[Guest guest]

Crystal -

It's generally accepted that about 2 hours is the time to wait between shakes,

or in separating calcium/iron, etc. For max. absorption, that is. However, if

I am having cravings, or *need* something, I'll have anextra shake. I don't

care if I don't absorb it all, if it keeps me from going nuts, or eating sugar,

or something . . . )

Mimi -

30 grams of protein *per shake*, which should be drunk within 30 min. Letting

them sit around grows bacteria. I drink 6 shakes/day, each with 30 grams of

protein. 180 grams/day total . . .

Deb Dancer -

You parallel *me*? Are you mutant, too, or what? ;o) Hope things are going

well for you, personally, and it sounds like you're doing great weight loss

wise. I gotta cut some of the junk outta my diet. Too much in the way of carbs

lately . . . I actually ate noodles the other day! (with bad result, might I

say?)

To everyone else . . .

I am not really carbophobic. I can't eat them. If you want to eat fruit

everyday, and know that it has a lot of sugar, and 1 piece of fruit is prolly 4

servings . . . go ahead. It's your body, your choice, and your weight loss. I

just want you to know that volume-wise, any piece of fruit is prolly 4 servings,

that it has a lot of sugar, and that it may slow you down. OK, maybe I am

carbophobic, but it's because I feel the results everyday. I experience the ups

and down in blood sugars, the *BIG NAPS* (late dumping), the cravings later.

The funny thing is that while everyone thinks I'm a mutant, most people I talk

to experience at least some of these consequences. Somehow they think " it's the

surgery " , or that it's worth it, or something. Or they don't connect the cause

and effect.

I try to get some carbs from veggies, the occasional 1/4 of an apple or a couple

of berries, or low carb bread. Eating noodles, rice, bread, etc. makes me dump,

and usually messes with my guts for a day or two. I am *very* sensitive to

simple carbs (sugars and white flour) - not my choice, but that's how it is. I

apparently always have been, and that is a large part of the reason I was fat.

And while I am convinced that the true experts in nutrition (research

scientists, people who actually do study nutrition, as opposed to learing the

Gov. pyramid, etc.) are proving everyday that it's the sugar we eat, and not the

fat, not everyone believes this. I do know that we malabsorb at least *some*

fat, and sugar is still absorbed from lips all the way to toilet. IMNHO, it's

better to have half a slice of heavy, whole grain bread, toasted, with butter

and SF jam (not the low sugar, really SF, like Harry & 's) than fruit.

More fiber, less carbs, *much* less sugar!

As always, all opinions expressed here are only my opinions. YMMV.

, who's on her way outside to enjoy a PNW " sunbreak " !

Hawkridge in Washington State.