Re: Doing it twice?, first time didn't deliver in all areas

[Guest guest]

You may want to hold off on that chin implant if you're serious about

considering the upper surgery until you've met with an OS. Not that I

think you should have more surgery than necessary, but I have met at

least one person here who was very unhappy with her chin implant, she

had it removed and had, I believe, double jaw surgery and

genioplasty, and was very satisfied with the results. I'm not sure if

her photos are still here, her yahoo id was protrusive_profile and

she's from Vancouver area.

I myself had upper/lower/genio and for the first time in as long as I

can remember, I can actually close my lips. I'm no longer a lifelong

mouth breather. I'm happy with that, although it wasn't a goal of

mine, it was better function of my joints that was the concern.

Hope that helps,

> Hello,

>

> Has anyone here had orthognathic surgery a second time to

> achieve better correction than the first time. I had my lower jaw

> moved forward as well as a genioplasty on my tiny chin ten years

> ago. My bite is good, but the chin is still seriously lacking and

my

> lip incompetence is driving me nuts. At rest my lips are at least

a

> quarter inch apart. My oral surgeon told me AFTER the surgery

> that he could have moved my upper jaw back and that would

> have corrected the lip incompetence. Unfortunately, that option

> was not mentioned pre-op. I went on my merry way, happy to

> have a certain amount of improvement. But now I'm sick of the

> still weak profile and the constant muscle strain to close my lips.

> I'm having a chin implant put in this week to help solve that

> problem and I'm looking into lip advancement possibilities, but I

> am suspecting that my upper jaw needs moved like it should

> have been in the first place. I'll probably consult with an oral

> surgeon soon. I'm hoping to solve this in a less invasive

> manner, but I want it fixed. Any comments will be greatly

> appreciated.

[Guest guest]

You may want to hold off on that chin implant if you're serious about

considering the upper surgery until you've met with an OS. Not that I

think you should have more surgery than necessary, but I have met at

least one person here who was very unhappy with her chin implant, she

had it removed and had, I believe, double jaw surgery and

genioplasty, and was very satisfied with the results. I'm not sure if

her photos are still here, her yahoo id was protrusive_profile and

she's from Vancouver area.

I myself had upper/lower/genio and for the first time in as long as I

can remember, I can actually close my lips. I'm no longer a lifelong

mouth breather. I'm happy with that, although it wasn't a goal of

mine, it was better function of my joints that was the concern.

Hope that helps,

> Hello,

>

> Has anyone here had orthognathic surgery a second time to

> achieve better correction than the first time. I had my lower jaw

> moved forward as well as a genioplasty on my tiny chin ten years

> ago. My bite is good, but the chin is still seriously lacking and

my

> lip incompetence is driving me nuts. At rest my lips are at least

a

> quarter inch apart. My oral surgeon told me AFTER the surgery

> that he could have moved my upper jaw back and that would

> have corrected the lip incompetence. Unfortunately, that option

> was not mentioned pre-op. I went on my merry way, happy to

> have a certain amount of improvement. But now I'm sick of the

> still weak profile and the constant muscle strain to close my lips.

> I'm having a chin implant put in this week to help solve that

> problem and I'm looking into lip advancement possibilities, but I

> am suspecting that my upper jaw needs moved like it should

> have been in the first place. I'll probably consult with an oral

> surgeon soon. I'm hoping to solve this in a less invasive

> manner, but I want it fixed. Any comments will be greatly

> appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had upper widened and shortened & lower advanced 2 weeks

ago and the 1st time I went to see my OS he said he was going

to talk me into getting genio. I have been studying up on this

surgery before I had it done. I knew what it consisted of and

when I told my friend about the genio and how it was done she

thought I ment an implant cuz that's what she saw on that

Extreme Makeovers show. So the next time I went to go see my

OS, my friend went with me and then he explained that an

implant is just a quick fix and in would only last for a while. Plus

he said it's a foreign object in your body and your body might

" reject " it and it could cause infection. Whereas for a genio, they

cut into your bone and new bone grows to fill it in.

I didn't have the genio with my surgery, I kinda wish I would have,

but I guess my surgeon likes to make sure you absolutely don't

need it first.

Mindy

> Hello,

>

> Has anyone here had orthognathic surgery a second time to

> achieve better correction than the first time. I had my lower jaw

> moved forward as well as a genioplasty on my tiny chin ten

years

> ago. My bite is good, but the chin is still seriously lacking and

my

> lip incompetence is driving me nuts. At rest my lips are at least

a

> quarter inch apart. My oral surgeon told me AFTER the surgery

> that he could have moved my upper jaw back and that would

> have corrected the lip incompetence. Unfortunately, that option

> was not mentioned pre-op. I went on my merry way, happy to

> have a certain amount of improvement. But now I'm sick of the

> still weak profile and the constant muscle strain to close my

lips.

> I'm having a chin implant put in this week to help solve that

> problem and I'm looking into lip advancement possibilities, but

I

> am suspecting that my upper jaw needs moved like it should

> have been in the first place. I'll probably consult with an oral

> surgeon soon. I'm hoping to solve this in a less invasive

> manner, but I want it fixed. Any comments will be greatly

> appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had upper widened and shortened & lower advanced 2 weeks

ago and the 1st time I went to see my OS he said he was going

to talk me into getting genio. I have been studying up on this

surgery before I had it done. I knew what it consisted of and

when I told my friend about the genio and how it was done she

thought I ment an implant cuz that's what she saw on that

Extreme Makeovers show. So the next time I went to go see my

OS, my friend went with me and then he explained that an

implant is just a quick fix and in would only last for a while. Plus

he said it's a foreign object in your body and your body might

" reject " it and it could cause infection. Whereas for a genio, they

cut into your bone and new bone grows to fill it in.

I didn't have the genio with my surgery, I kinda wish I would have,

but I guess my surgeon likes to make sure you absolutely don't

need it first.

Mindy

> Hello,

>

> Has anyone here had orthognathic surgery a second time to

> achieve better correction than the first time. I had my lower jaw

> moved forward as well as a genioplasty on my tiny chin ten

years

> ago. My bite is good, but the chin is still seriously lacking and

my

> lip incompetence is driving me nuts. At rest my lips are at least

a

> quarter inch apart. My oral surgeon told me AFTER the surgery

> that he could have moved my upper jaw back and that would

> have corrected the lip incompetence. Unfortunately, that option

> was not mentioned pre-op. I went on my merry way, happy to

> have a certain amount of improvement. But now I'm sick of the

> still weak profile and the constant muscle strain to close my

lips.

> I'm having a chin implant put in this week to help solve that

> problem and I'm looking into lip advancement possibilities, but

I

> am suspecting that my upper jaw needs moved like it should

> have been in the first place. I'll probably consult with an oral

> surgeon soon. I'm hoping to solve this in a less invasive

> manner, but I want it fixed. Any comments will be greatly

> appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Quote: " In my case, the ortho and oral surgeon believe that chin

implant may eat my chin bone sooner or later... "

Having images of pac-man here (am I dating myself now????)

Heehee!

> I had both braces and chin implant four years ago, without jaw

surgery. Chin implant is still good and my teeth are still

strienght, but my facial profile is not perfect enough. After a

serial discussion with my ortho, I decide that I will have to go one

more round for upper jaw impact, lower jaw advancement, and genio.

In my case, the ortho and oral surgeon believe that chin implant may

eat my chin bone sooner or later, and since I will have to have

surgery I should take the implant out and replace it with genio.

>

> So in your case, you might need upper impact, instead of chin

implant, to make your lip more competent. I am saving my money for

that one more round of brace and surgery. Seems to me that chin

implant is not a bad idea, If someone already have a blance pair of

jaw. But if someone has a balance jaw, why does he/she need a chin

since balanced jaw will define strong chin. Anyone can answer this?

[Guest guest]

Quote: " In my case, the ortho and oral surgeon believe that chin

implant may eat my chin bone sooner or later... "

Having images of pac-man here (am I dating myself now????)

Heehee!

> I had both braces and chin implant four years ago, without jaw

surgery. Chin implant is still good and my teeth are still

strienght, but my facial profile is not perfect enough. After a

serial discussion with my ortho, I decide that I will have to go one

more round for upper jaw impact, lower jaw advancement, and genio.

In my case, the ortho and oral surgeon believe that chin implant may

eat my chin bone sooner or later, and since I will have to have

surgery I should take the implant out and replace it with genio.

>

> So in your case, you might need upper impact, instead of chin

implant, to make your lip more competent. I am saving my money for

that one more round of brace and surgery. Seems to me that chin

implant is not a bad idea, If someone already have a blance pair of

jaw. But if someone has a balance jaw, why does he/she need a chin

since balanced jaw will define strong chin. Anyone can answer this?