Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 Hi Jill: Yes! it sounds like you have one of those " male Stubbornness " living in your house. I don't know what can be done about them. ) I don't think they ever change. I know Fred hasn't. Took out the King size bed in what was our master bedroom and put in Fred's hospital bed in there to give him room to drive around it with his electric w/c. Trying to make it easy for him , so he can use it and get pass the door's without falling. I have the whole room arranged now, but guess what? You got it, he want's to use the walker now, and has his electric w/c outside in the garage. You would think he would get sick of the fall's, but I guess he likes the hard knock's. You take Care Vera Hi there, There was some 'talk' recently about male stubbornness. How about this story......... has 'his chair' in our house, as do we all, the occupation health people have fitted an attachment which has hired the chair so that can sit down and stand up easier. He now uses another chair,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, JILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 Hi Jill: Yes! it sounds like you have one of those " male Stubbornness " living in your house. I don't know what can be done about them. ) I don't think they ever change. I know Fred hasn't. Took out the King size bed in what was our master bedroom and put in Fred's hospital bed in there to give him room to drive around it with his electric w/c. Trying to make it easy for him , so he can use it and get pass the door's without falling. I have the whole room arranged now, but guess what? You got it, he want's to use the walker now, and has his electric w/c outside in the garage. You would think he would get sick of the fall's, but I guess he likes the hard knock's. You take Care Vera Hi there, There was some 'talk' recently about male stubbornness. How about this story......... has 'his chair' in our house, as do we all, the occupation health people have fitted an attachment which has hired the chair so that can sit down and stand up easier. He now uses another chair,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, JILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Bill: You know it makes my day , anytime I can pick on you. It really makes life a joy and always put's the biggest smile on my face. See ) Now about not turning the way Fred said when I took you to the air port. It wasn't I didn't listen to him, I just wanted you to see the rest of Los Angeles while you were here. ). That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Do you think that all people with MSA tell the Doctor's that we caregiver's beat them. Fred been good about doing that lately. I sure wouldn't want to try and tell the police that I didnt' really do it. I'm one that get's nervous and I start laughing, then for sure they would take me in thinking that I think the whole thing is funny. I'm suprise that they haven't checked it out ,really. As many times as his been hurt lately and there could of been more if I hadn't got him first or yelled to tell him to watch out . They sure can be fast when you don't watch or your not around. After two weeks Fred's eye is now a light blue , green and yellow from the last bad fall he had. Fred drove his electric w/c up to the store yesterday and I walked behind him. He told me I walk pretty fast for being my age. Little does he know you have to be , when it comes to keeping up with him. ;o) . Takecare Vera Vera, :-) Careful now, remember that I have met you :-) Fred is not the only stubborn one in your family ;-) I remember that Fred told you to turn one way to go to the airport, and you said no - it's this way - who was stubborn then We did get there I used to get frustrated when Charlotte would decide to sit halfway between the bed and chair also. Charlotte also had her share of falls often because I could not get there immediately when she decided she needed something. I remember once - I was at work and due home at noon, (fall day temperature in the 60's, sun shining) the kids came over and let our dog out (also gave her fresh water outside) at 9:30 AM and checked on Charlotte. They left the dog out as it was so nice. The dog barked to come in around 10 AM so Charlotte transferred to her wheelchair and went to let the dog in, but a chair would not let Charlotte get all the way to the door - SO rather than let the dog stay out (there was also shade), Charlotte decided to get up and let her in. I called at 11 AM to check on Charlotte as I needed another hour to finish an experiment, and no answer. My daughter had gone on to work, so I hurried home. I found Charlotte on the floor at the back door with the w/c on top of her AND the dog was still out (sleeping peacefully in the sun). Luckily she only had a slight rug burn on her face that time, but it could have been a total disaster. I had to re run the entire experiment the next day (4 hours of work). As early as 1995, she was not supposed to go down the stairs to the laundry - but if I was not there - she would. So I went to the drug store to pick up a prescription (already ready) and came home to find her at the bottom of the steps on the floor. Another ER trip and two (not one) black eyes for about two weeks - told the ER nurse and doctor (she was just kidding) that I had beat her and I had to explain the thing to the police. It is not just men You just love to pick on us Take care, Bill Werre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Bill: You know it makes my day , anytime I can pick on you. It really makes life a joy and always put's the biggest smile on my face. See ) Now about not turning the way Fred said when I took you to the air port. It wasn't I didn't listen to him, I just wanted you to see the rest of Los Angeles while you were here. ). That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Do you think that all people with MSA tell the Doctor's that we caregiver's beat them. Fred been good about doing that lately. I sure wouldn't want to try and tell the police that I didnt' really do it. I'm one that get's nervous and I start laughing, then for sure they would take me in thinking that I think the whole thing is funny. I'm suprise that they haven't checked it out ,really. As many times as his been hurt lately and there could of been more if I hadn't got him first or yelled to tell him to watch out . They sure can be fast when you don't watch or your not around. After two weeks Fred's eye is now a light blue , green and yellow from the last bad fall he had. Fred drove his electric w/c up to the store yesterday and I walked behind him. He told me I walk pretty fast for being my age. Little does he know you have to be , when it comes to keeping up with him. ;o) . Takecare Vera Vera, :-) Careful now, remember that I have met you :-) Fred is not the only stubborn one in your family ;-) I remember that Fred told you to turn one way to go to the airport, and you said no - it's this way - who was stubborn then We did get there I used to get frustrated when Charlotte would decide to sit halfway between the bed and chair also. Charlotte also had her share of falls often because I could not get there immediately when she decided she needed something. I remember once - I was at work and due home at noon, (fall day temperature in the 60's, sun shining) the kids came over and let our dog out (also gave her fresh water outside) at 9:30 AM and checked on Charlotte. They left the dog out as it was so nice. The dog barked to come in around 10 AM so Charlotte transferred to her wheelchair and went to let the dog in, but a chair would not let Charlotte get all the way to the door - SO rather than let the dog stay out (there was also shade), Charlotte decided to get up and let her in. I called at 11 AM to check on Charlotte as I needed another hour to finish an experiment, and no answer. My daughter had gone on to work, so I hurried home. I found Charlotte on the floor at the back door with the w/c on top of her AND the dog was still out (sleeping peacefully in the sun). Luckily she only had a slight rug burn on her face that time, but it could have been a total disaster. I had to re run the entire experiment the next day (4 hours of work). As early as 1995, she was not supposed to go down the stairs to the laundry - but if I was not there - she would. So I went to the drug store to pick up a prescription (already ready) and came home to find her at the bottom of the steps on the floor. Another ER trip and two (not one) black eyes for about two weeks - told the ER nurse and doctor (she was just kidding) that I had beat her and I had to explain the thing to the police. It is not just men You just love to pick on us Take care, Bill Werre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Vera, :-) Careful now, remember that I have met you :-) Fred is not the only stubborn one in your family ;-) I remember that Fred told you to turn one way to go to the airport, and you said no - it's this way - who was stubborn then We did get there I used to get frustrated when Charlotte would decide to sit halfway between the bed and chair also. Charlotte also had her share of falls often because I could not get there immediately when she decided she needed something. I remember once - I was at work and due home at noon, (fall day temperature in the 60's, sun shining) the kids came over and let our dog out (also gave her fresh water outside) at 9:30 AM and checked on Charlotte. They left the dog out as it was so nice. The dog barked to come in around 10 AM so Charlotte transferred to her wheelchair and went to let the dog in, but a chair would not let Charlotte get all the way to the door - SO rather than let the dog stay out (there was also shade), Charlotte decided to get up and let her in. I called at 11 AM to check on Charlotte as I needed another hour to finish an experiment, and no answer. My daughter had gone on to work, so I hurried home. I found Charlotte on the floor at the back door with the w/c on top of her AND the dog was still out (sleeping peacefully in the sun). Luckily she only had a slight rug burn on her face that time, but it could have been a total disaster. I had to re run the entire experiment the next day (4 hours of work). As early as 1995, she was not supposed to go down the stairs to the laundry - but if I was not there - she would. So I went to the drug store to pick up a prescription (already ready) and came home to find her at the bottom of the steps on the floor. Another ER trip and two (not one) black eyes for about two weeks - told the ER nurse and doctor (she was just kidding) that I had beat her and I had to explain the thing to the police. It is not just men You just love to pick on us Take care, Bill Werre -------------------------------------------------------- FVJAMES@... wrote: >Hi Jill: >Yes! it sounds like you have one of those " male Stubbornness " living in your >house. I don't know what can be done about them. ) I don't think they ever >change. I know Fred hasn't. Took out the King size bed in what was our master >bedroom and put in Fred's hospital bed in there to give him room to drive >around it with his electric w/c. Trying to make it easy for him , so he can >use it and get pass the door's without falling. I have the whole room >arranged now, but guess what? You got it, he want's to use the walker now, >and has his electric w/c outside in the garage. You would think he would get >sick of the fall's, but I guess he likes the hard knock's. > >You take Care >Vera > > > >Hi there, > >There was some 'talk' recently about male stubbornness. How about this >story......... > > has 'his chair' in our house, as do we all, the occupation health people >have fitted an attachment which has hired >the chair so that can sit down and stand up easier. > >He now uses another chair,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > >JILL > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Vera, :-) Careful now, remember that I have met you :-) Fred is not the only stubborn one in your family ;-) I remember that Fred told you to turn one way to go to the airport, and you said no - it's this way - who was stubborn then We did get there I used to get frustrated when Charlotte would decide to sit halfway between the bed and chair also. Charlotte also had her share of falls often because I could not get there immediately when she decided she needed something. I remember once - I was at work and due home at noon, (fall day temperature in the 60's, sun shining) the kids came over and let our dog out (also gave her fresh water outside) at 9:30 AM and checked on Charlotte. They left the dog out as it was so nice. The dog barked to come in around 10 AM so Charlotte transferred to her wheelchair and went to let the dog in, but a chair would not let Charlotte get all the way to the door - SO rather than let the dog stay out (there was also shade), Charlotte decided to get up and let her in. I called at 11 AM to check on Charlotte as I needed another hour to finish an experiment, and no answer. My daughter had gone on to work, so I hurried home. I found Charlotte on the floor at the back door with the w/c on top of her AND the dog was still out (sleeping peacefully in the sun). Luckily she only had a slight rug burn on her face that time, but it could have been a total disaster. I had to re run the entire experiment the next day (4 hours of work). As early as 1995, she was not supposed to go down the stairs to the laundry - but if I was not there - she would. So I went to the drug store to pick up a prescription (already ready) and came home to find her at the bottom of the steps on the floor. Another ER trip and two (not one) black eyes for about two weeks - told the ER nurse and doctor (she was just kidding) that I had beat her and I had to explain the thing to the police. It is not just men You just love to pick on us Take care, Bill Werre -------------------------------------------------------- FVJAMES@... wrote: >Hi Jill: >Yes! it sounds like you have one of those " male Stubbornness " living in your >house. I don't know what can be done about them. ) I don't think they ever >change. I know Fred hasn't. Took out the King size bed in what was our master >bedroom and put in Fred's hospital bed in there to give him room to drive >around it with his electric w/c. Trying to make it easy for him , so he can >use it and get pass the door's without falling. I have the whole room >arranged now, but guess what? You got it, he want's to use the walker now, >and has his electric w/c outside in the garage. You would think he would get >sick of the fall's, but I guess he likes the hard knock's. > >You take Care >Vera > > > >Hi there, > >There was some 'talk' recently about male stubbornness. How about this >story......... > > has 'his chair' in our house, as do we all, the occupation health people >have fitted an attachment which has hired >the chair so that can sit down and stand up easier. > >He now uses another chair,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > >JILL > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Well Vera, they may not all tell the doctors that their spouse is beating them: Ken didn't, he told 911 that his wife was poisoning him. It was good to talk to you the other day; I am sorry i can't se you today. love to you and to Fred, Barbara smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Well Vera, they may not all tell the doctors that their spouse is beating them: Ken didn't, he told 911 that his wife was poisoning him. It was good to talk to you the other day; I am sorry i can't se you today. love to you and to Fred, Barbara smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Okay, I've got a stubbornness story too. Rob told his psychologist that I was yelling at him (I know I lose patience sometimes, but not THAT much!) and holding him prisoner. Yikes! Carol & Rob (who's been set free) Lexington, MA Re: male stubbornness >JIll > Well Vera, they may not all tell the doctors that their spouse is beating > them: Ken didn't, he told 911 that his wife was poisoning him. > It was good to talk to you the other day; I am sorry i can't se you > today. > love to you and to Fred, > Barbara smith > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Okay, I've got a stubbornness story too. Rob told his psychologist that I was yelling at him (I know I lose patience sometimes, but not THAT much!) and holding him prisoner. Yikes! Carol & Rob (who's been set free) Lexington, MA Re: male stubbornness >JIll > Well Vera, they may not all tell the doctors that their spouse is beating > them: Ken didn't, he told 911 that his wife was poisoning him. > It was good to talk to you the other day; I am sorry i can't se you > today. > love to you and to Fred, > Barbara smith > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Well, gals ,Ralph told me I was glad he was ill so I could take over everything and run away with the strange man he saw driving my car. My kids told him I was too busy for another man in my life. Illness makes us all nuts sometimes. Love them through it. No other way. You can't stay mad all the time but you can't be foolish and take it all either. I remember a trip to the bank when Ralph became so angry I had to get him out of there. He set his feet on the floor so I could not push his chair. I spun him around and took him out backwards. There is always a way out. We made quite a scene but no one called the cops. Have a lovely day, all. Barb " I have held many things in my hands and lost them all; but whatever I have placed in God's hands, that I still possess. " Corrie Ten Boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Well, gals ,Ralph told me I was glad he was ill so I could take over everything and run away with the strange man he saw driving my car. My kids told him I was too busy for another man in my life. Illness makes us all nuts sometimes. Love them through it. No other way. You can't stay mad all the time but you can't be foolish and take it all either. I remember a trip to the bank when Ralph became so angry I had to get him out of there. He set his feet on the floor so I could not push his chair. I spun him around and took him out backwards. There is always a way out. We made quite a scene but no one called the cops. Have a lovely day, all. Barb " I have held many things in my hands and lost them all; but whatever I have placed in God's hands, that I still possess. " Corrie Ten Boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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