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Actually I think Matija said age and ages ago that she gets different types of

flakes and think this is true. I get similar reactions to any topicals as

Majorie had with the vita oil. I get the same from water too.

I have noticed though that high fat and sugar diet, or washing my face only with

water means that I wake the next day with a face full of them. This is why I

have presumed some of it could be seb derm. Although thinking about it Mr Dahl

recently reported how our faces cause more mites or something to appear, I

wonder if the high sugar and fat just heats uo my body, and not washing the face

with soap causes more irritation from them??.

Thew weirdest thing is, as I mentionnned moisturisers make them worse for me. I

also suffer from edema the next day or sometimes immediately after having used

any type of topical. (I have had patch testing so know it's not an allergy)

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Actually I think Matija said age and ages ago that she gets different types of

flakes and think this is true. I get similar reactions to any topicals as

Majorie had with the vita oil. I get the same from water too.

I have noticed though that high fat and sugar diet, or washing my face only with

water means that I wake the next day with a face full of them. This is why I

have presumed some of it could be seb derm. Although thinking about it Mr Dahl

recently reported how our faces cause more mites or something to appear, I

wonder if the high sugar and fat just heats uo my body, and not washing the face

with soap causes more irritation from them??.

Thew weirdest thing is, as I mentionnned moisturisers make them worse for me. I

also suffer from edema the next day or sometimes immediately after having used

any type of topical. (I have had patch testing so know it's not an allergy)

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I believe you make the flakes worse but using too much oil products.

Yes my skin is dry and I would love to just moisturize the hell out

of it but I refrain. Overmoisturizing for me just brought on greasy,

slimy, creepy flakes made all the much worse trying to put on any

kind of make-up. So for months I have been trying to stay away from

all those products. I now have just dry flakes that I can live

with. In the morning I wash with cea Care Cleanser( I really

like it) and then let my face air dry. I do not use a towel at

all. Later when I see what my day is going to bring I'll either put

on Zinco tinted cream and nothing else. That's if I go out to spend

the day in the sun. If I am going to work or whatever I apply a thin

coating(dime-sized) of Cetaphil 15 spf moisturizing sunscreen and

immediately follow with a little make-up by Arden.

Yesterday for the first time in years I felt my face looked good. No

flakey looking greasy skin. My nightime regime is washing again with

cea Care Cleanser and again letting it air dry. Then an hour

later or so I rewet my face and apply a drop of Jojoba oil on the wet

skin and then I use the tan rosacea Ltd Disk. I have only been using

the disks about a month and not every night. When I first started

using them I had horrid burning and itchiness. So by experimenting I

found that letting my skin dry naturally and not applying the product

immediately there is no burning or itchiness. I am aiming to try and

help all the bumps and to get a smoother look. I feel the disks are

helping but i am taking it really slow. I am not going to start to

use the white disk and or use the disks twice a day like what is

reccomended until I am sure my skin can tolerate that. So it's slow,

slow going but I can live with what is happening right now. This is

after years of using every prescription, antibiotic and whatnot. I

no longer see a derm because i really don't want to go back to that

vicious cycle. Who knows if the only diagnoses I received was the

correct one. After joining this group the one thing i never really

experienced was the flushing. I am red but have never had a flush.

so go figure. I feel for all you young people that are suffering

such bad skin. I was 44 when the doc diagnosed and am now 49 so have

only had really bad skin for a few years and now it's not so bad. I

can't imagine at 20 to be looking forward to years of this,

expecially when appearance is so important to us all. I am really so

glad for this group and all the great advice that's been out there.

I don't know anyone personally in my group of friends that suffer

from this so it's nice to hear from people who know what i am talking

about. My friends say they can't really tell but i fear there are

just being polite. Take care Cindy

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I believe you make the flakes worse but using too much oil products.

Yes my skin is dry and I would love to just moisturize the hell out

of it but I refrain. Overmoisturizing for me just brought on greasy,

slimy, creepy flakes made all the much worse trying to put on any

kind of make-up. So for months I have been trying to stay away from

all those products. I now have just dry flakes that I can live

with. In the morning I wash with cea Care Cleanser( I really

like it) and then let my face air dry. I do not use a towel at

all. Later when I see what my day is going to bring I'll either put

on Zinco tinted cream and nothing else. That's if I go out to spend

the day in the sun. If I am going to work or whatever I apply a thin

coating(dime-sized) of Cetaphil 15 spf moisturizing sunscreen and

immediately follow with a little make-up by Arden.

Yesterday for the first time in years I felt my face looked good. No

flakey looking greasy skin. My nightime regime is washing again with

cea Care Cleanser and again letting it air dry. Then an hour

later or so I rewet my face and apply a drop of Jojoba oil on the wet

skin and then I use the tan rosacea Ltd Disk. I have only been using

the disks about a month and not every night. When I first started

using them I had horrid burning and itchiness. So by experimenting I

found that letting my skin dry naturally and not applying the product

immediately there is no burning or itchiness. I am aiming to try and

help all the bumps and to get a smoother look. I feel the disks are

helping but i am taking it really slow. I am not going to start to

use the white disk and or use the disks twice a day like what is

reccomended until I am sure my skin can tolerate that. So it's slow,

slow going but I can live with what is happening right now. This is

after years of using every prescription, antibiotic and whatnot. I

no longer see a derm because i really don't want to go back to that

vicious cycle. Who knows if the only diagnoses I received was the

correct one. After joining this group the one thing i never really

experienced was the flushing. I am red but have never had a flush.

so go figure. I feel for all you young people that are suffering

such bad skin. I was 44 when the doc diagnosed and am now 49 so have

only had really bad skin for a few years and now it's not so bad. I

can't imagine at 20 to be looking forward to years of this,

expecially when appearance is so important to us all. I am really so

glad for this group and all the great advice that's been out there.

I don't know anyone personally in my group of friends that suffer

from this so it's nice to hear from people who know what i am talking

about. My friends say they can't really tell but i fear there are

just being polite. Take care Cindy

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