Vessel regrowth and lasers.. etc.

[Guest guest]

This whole thread, starting from when it was titled " need help with

ansers [answers] from laser doc " through its metamorphosis

into " Vessel regrowth and lasers " has been giving me a headache, but

I can't stop reading the next installment in the series.

Like most ceans, my theories of how my skin disorder was

triggered, what causes its ebbs and flows, and what truly seems to be

helping me are shaped by my own personal experiences in dealing with

it.

That said, this board has helped me a great deal by introducing new

ways to keep my skin calm (Vita-K , for example) exploring new

treatment options (Photoderm/FotoFacial), and providing a much needed

human connection with people like me .

But this particular thread is really getting convoluted. It's

probably just that cea is such a convoluted disorder, with so

many unknown variables thrown into the mix, but…

For example, my skin responds extremely well to IPL. Usually after a

hard run, my face turns a bright, fluorescent red, gradually turns

pink, before settling down to a more normal color (or as normal as I

get.) I have to ice it down afterwards to keep from developing edema

and pustules. Since my very first FotoFacial a week ago, I have been

on three runs. Much to my delight, shortly after returning home and

splashing my face with cold water, my face was basically pale, with a

few pink splotches which eventually went away. And I didn't get

that " heavy " feeling in my face, or feel the blood throbbing in my

cheeks.

So some microcirculation expert from Yale who doesn't believe that

IPL treatments could cause observable reduction in flushing

mechanisms impresses me about as much as someone posting that evil

dermal mites from Mars have invaded our collective face and are the

direct cause of cea.

And I thought it was pretty much accepted at this point that cea

is a progressive disorder – yes, perhaps we can destroy the `bad'

vessels, but the new vessels will be subjected to the same triggers

that affected their predecessors; therefore, it's a foregone

conclusion that future treatments (in my case, IPL) will be needed. I

am positive that my affinity for tropical climates and hard exercise

will make my cea an ongoing battle I must fight to the death. My

death, that is.

Also, I never accepted the theory that we ceans have `enhanced

facial vascularity' in the sense that we have more facial blood

vessels than the average non-cean. Even the faces of non-

ceans are over vascularized; subject a non-cean to hard

exercise or strong emotion, and his/her face can turn a bright

flaming red. Believe me; I've done this to non-ceans.

I know in my case, my pre-IPL facial blood vessels were damaged from

my life long love affair with heat. The blood would just not leave

my face. And now, 2 ½ years after my first Photoderm treatment, I

have seen vast improvement. I saw improvement from the beginning. I

don't believe this can help every cean, unfortunately, but

because of the variety of our triggers/symptoms/tolerances, that is

not surprising.

It's generally accepted that heredity is involved, but I have a

kazillion relatives, and not one has this. My grandparents didn't

have it. My great-grandmothers, who are said to have resembled me,

were known for their beautiful skin.

I don't know… I don't think there is ever going to be one blanket

statement or theory that will describe exactly what cea is or

what causes it; therefore, no single magic solution.

I was going to offer you guys my own treatise on angiogenesis in the

cean face (and expound at length about that spunky protein we all

know and love – Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor!!) but I have to

wash some clothes.

Take care,

-- Jillian

[Guest guest]

This whole thread, starting from when it was titled " need help with

ansers [answers] from laser doc " through its metamorphosis

into " Vessel regrowth and lasers " has been giving me a headache, but

I can't stop reading the next installment in the series.

Like most ceans, my theories of how my skin disorder was

triggered, what causes its ebbs and flows, and what truly seems to be

helping me are shaped by my own personal experiences in dealing with

it.

That said, this board has helped me a great deal by introducing new

ways to keep my skin calm (Vita-K , for example) exploring new

treatment options (Photoderm/FotoFacial), and providing a much needed

human connection with people like me .

But this particular thread is really getting convoluted. It's

probably just that cea is such a convoluted disorder, with so

many unknown variables thrown into the mix, but…

For example, my skin responds extremely well to IPL. Usually after a

hard run, my face turns a bright, fluorescent red, gradually turns

pink, before settling down to a more normal color (or as normal as I

get.) I have to ice it down afterwards to keep from developing edema

and pustules. Since my very first FotoFacial a week ago, I have been

on three runs. Much to my delight, shortly after returning home and

splashing my face with cold water, my face was basically pale, with a

few pink splotches which eventually went away. And I didn't get

that " heavy " feeling in my face, or feel the blood throbbing in my

cheeks.

So some microcirculation expert from Yale who doesn't believe that

IPL treatments could cause observable reduction in flushing

mechanisms impresses me about as much as someone posting that evil

dermal mites from Mars have invaded our collective face and are the

direct cause of cea.

And I thought it was pretty much accepted at this point that cea

is a progressive disorder – yes, perhaps we can destroy the `bad'

vessels, but the new vessels will be subjected to the same triggers

that affected their predecessors; therefore, it's a foregone

conclusion that future treatments (in my case, IPL) will be needed. I

am positive that my affinity for tropical climates and hard exercise

will make my cea an ongoing battle I must fight to the death. My

death, that is.

Also, I never accepted the theory that we ceans have `enhanced

facial vascularity' in the sense that we have more facial blood

vessels than the average non-cean. Even the faces of non-

ceans are over vascularized; subject a non-cean to hard

exercise or strong emotion, and his/her face can turn a bright

flaming red. Believe me; I've done this to non-ceans.

I know in my case, my pre-IPL facial blood vessels were damaged from

my life long love affair with heat. The blood would just not leave

my face. And now, 2 ½ years after my first Photoderm treatment, I

have seen vast improvement. I saw improvement from the beginning. I

don't believe this can help every cean, unfortunately, but

because of the variety of our triggers/symptoms/tolerances, that is

not surprising.

It's generally accepted that heredity is involved, but I have a

kazillion relatives, and not one has this. My grandparents didn't

have it. My great-grandmothers, who are said to have resembled me,

were known for their beautiful skin.

I don't know… I don't think there is ever going to be one blanket

statement or theory that will describe exactly what cea is or

what causes it; therefore, no single magic solution.

I was going to offer you guys my own treatise on angiogenesis in the

cean face (and expound at length about that spunky protein we all

know and love – Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor!!) but I have to

wash some clothes.

Take care,

-- Jillian