horse chestnut side effects

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i spent over an hour replying to the original question on this topic

(posted around saturday july 20, i'm too tired to find it again). i

think it is an important topic. i'm assuming my answer didn't get

posted due to being too lengthy and too linky (around 5 or 6). i had

added the links to document my statements. (i can still show sources

if anyone wants to see them.)

the member said in the original post that they heard horse chestnut

was without side effects. anything can have side effects - just look

at the reaction deryk had to the horse chestnut in his eyes. horse

chestnut can cause nausea, vomiting, and gastrointestinal irritation.

it has also been associated with dizziness and " calf spasm. "

topically it can cause itching and allergic skin reaction. i also

read that some study(ies) showed that intravenously it caused

anaphylaxis reaction and renal and hepatic failure (the webpage just

said if you have liver/kidney problems to maybe avoid it then). this

herb is also on an fda list of dangerous plants: " Contains a toxic

coumarin glyoside, aesculin (esculin)....A poisonous plant. "

this esculin is a blood thinner. i called one company about their

vein product with the herb, and they claimed the amount of esculin in

their formula is " untraceable " . i've read that blood thinners can

have some nasty side effects; granted, these are tiny amounts in

horse chestnut formulas (which are often standardized to the amount

of active ingredient escin, by the way.)

there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one on

medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps. im

glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not without

first knowing the risks.

-frustrated

[Guest guest]

i spent over an hour replying to the original question on this topic

(posted around saturday july 20, i'm too tired to find it again). i

think it is an important topic. i'm assuming my answer didn't get

posted due to being too lengthy and too linky (around 5 or 6). i had

added the links to document my statements. (i can still show sources

if anyone wants to see them.)

the member said in the original post that they heard horse chestnut

was without side effects. anything can have side effects - just look

at the reaction deryk had to the horse chestnut in his eyes. horse

chestnut can cause nausea, vomiting, and gastrointestinal irritation.

it has also been associated with dizziness and " calf spasm. "

topically it can cause itching and allergic skin reaction. i also

read that some study(ies) showed that intravenously it caused

anaphylaxis reaction and renal and hepatic failure (the webpage just

said if you have liver/kidney problems to maybe avoid it then). this

herb is also on an fda list of dangerous plants: " Contains a toxic

coumarin glyoside, aesculin (esculin)....A poisonous plant. "

this esculin is a blood thinner. i called one company about their

vein product with the herb, and they claimed the amount of esculin in

their formula is " untraceable " . i've read that blood thinners can

have some nasty side effects; granted, these are tiny amounts in

horse chestnut formulas (which are often standardized to the amount

of active ingredient escin, by the way.)

there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one on

medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps. im

glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not without

first knowing the risks.

-frustrated

[Guest guest]

> ...there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one

on

> medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

> including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps.

im

> glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not

without

> first knowing the risks.

>

> -frustrated

The site with links to escin toxicity and other adverse effects is:

http://www.herbmed.org/herbs/herb14.htm

Any herb (or any substance, for that matter) injested or applied

topically can potentially have adverse effects -- and the more

medication or herbs you partake of, the more you risk damaging your

liver as it tries to cleanse your blood of these substances.

If you take more than the occasional drink, you shouldn't take horse

chestnut, or any other substance on the list 'frustrated' mentioned.

Take care,

--Jillian

[Guest guest]

> ...there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one

on

> medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

> including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps.

im

> glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not

without

> first knowing the risks.

>

> -frustrated

The site with links to escin toxicity and other adverse effects is:

http://www.herbmed.org/herbs/herb14.htm

Any herb (or any substance, for that matter) injested or applied

topically can potentially have adverse effects -- and the more

medication or herbs you partake of, the more you risk damaging your

liver as it tries to cleanse your blood of these substances.

If you take more than the occasional drink, you shouldn't take horse

chestnut, or any other substance on the list 'frustrated' mentioned.

Take care,

--Jillian

[Guest guest]

I took two doses of horse chestnut per day for about 5 days. I got a

few headaches and some nausea that I'm pretty sure must have been

from it as I normally dont get headaches or nausea. I still have a

little nausea and have been off it for 2 days now. I hope it goes

away. The horse chestnut also caused my rosacea to flare more

easily (I reported that to the group already) and it did make my eyes

feel uncomfortable.

Patty

> i spent over an hour replying to the original question on this

topic

> (posted around saturday july 20, i'm too tired to find it again). i

> think it is an important topic. i'm assuming my answer didn't get

> posted due to being too lengthy and too linky (around 5 or 6). i

had

> added the links to document my statements. (i can still show

sources

> if anyone wants to see them.)

>

> the member said in the original post that they heard horse chestnut

> was without side effects. anything can have side effects - just

look

> at the reaction deryk had to the horse chestnut in his eyes. horse

> chestnut can cause nausea, vomiting, and gastrointestinal

irritation.

> it has also been associated with dizziness and " calf spasm. "

> topically it can cause itching and allergic skin reaction. i also

> read that some study(ies) showed that intravenously it caused

> anaphylaxis reaction and renal and hepatic failure (the webpage

just

> said if you have liver/kidney problems to maybe avoid it then).

this

> herb is also on an fda list of dangerous plants: " Contains a toxic

> coumarin glyoside, aesculin (esculin)....A poisonous plant. "

>

> this esculin is a blood thinner. i called one company about their

> vein product with the herb, and they claimed the amount of esculin

in

> their formula is " untraceable " . i've read that blood thinners can

> have some nasty side effects; granted, these are tiny amounts in

> horse chestnut formulas (which are often standardized to the amount

> of active ingredient escin, by the way.)

>

> there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one on

> medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

> including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps.

im

> glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not

without

> first knowing the risks.

>

> -frustrated

[Guest guest]

I took two doses of horse chestnut per day for about 5 days. I got a

few headaches and some nausea that I'm pretty sure must have been

from it as I normally dont get headaches or nausea. I still have a

little nausea and have been off it for 2 days now. I hope it goes

away. The horse chestnut also caused my rosacea to flare more

easily (I reported that to the group already) and it did make my eyes

feel uncomfortable.

Patty

> i spent over an hour replying to the original question on this

topic

> (posted around saturday july 20, i'm too tired to find it again). i

> think it is an important topic. i'm assuming my answer didn't get

> posted due to being too lengthy and too linky (around 5 or 6). i

had

> added the links to document my statements. (i can still show

sources

> if anyone wants to see them.)

>

> the member said in the original post that they heard horse chestnut

> was without side effects. anything can have side effects - just

look

> at the reaction deryk had to the horse chestnut in his eyes. horse

> chestnut can cause nausea, vomiting, and gastrointestinal

irritation.

> it has also been associated with dizziness and " calf spasm. "

> topically it can cause itching and allergic skin reaction. i also

> read that some study(ies) showed that intravenously it caused

> anaphylaxis reaction and renal and hepatic failure (the webpage

just

> said if you have liver/kidney problems to maybe avoid it then).

this

> herb is also on an fda list of dangerous plants: " Contains a toxic

> coumarin glyoside, aesculin (esculin)....A poisonous plant. "

>

> this esculin is a blood thinner. i called one company about their

> vein product with the herb, and they claimed the amount of esculin

in

> their formula is " untraceable " . i've read that blood thinners can

> have some nasty side effects; granted, these are tiny amounts in

> horse chestnut formulas (which are often standardized to the amount

> of active ingredient escin, by the way.)

>

> there are some very thorough studies/websites on this herb. one on

> medfaq has already been posted. another site chock full of info,

> including adverse and toxic effects, was herbmed. hope this helps.

im

> glad horse chestnut helps some, i'm dying to try it, but not

without

> first knowing the risks.

>

> -frustrated