Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Paraffin is a wax not an oil. Waxes in cosmetics/soaps are generally used as a solidifier and carrier of the active ingredients for ease of application, othwerwise you'd have an unusable, unemulsified, gloopy mess. I could be wrong but usually waxes are fairly inert and non-allergenic. I suspect that beeswax may not be so innocent however given its relationship to honey (and attendant various plant material) to which many people with outdoor allergies may have severe allergic reactions. Perhaps that is why liquid and white paraffins are used in many non-allergenic formulations, regardless of its dubious relationship to petrochemicals . Interestingly Jojoba oil is technically a wax as well. Best of luck if you do try Skin Fix. Let us know! (PS, I think I recall the company promising return of postage as well but you'd have to go back to the website to check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Paraffin is a wax not an oil. Waxes in cosmetics/soaps are generally used as a solidifier and carrier of the active ingredients for ease of application, othwerwise you'd have an unusable, unemulsified, gloopy mess. I could be wrong but usually waxes are fairly inert and non-allergenic. I suspect that beeswax may not be so innocent however given its relationship to honey (and attendant various plant material) to which many people with outdoor allergies may have severe allergic reactions. Perhaps that is why liquid and white paraffins are used in many non-allergenic formulations, regardless of its dubious relationship to petrochemicals . Interestingly Jojoba oil is technically a wax as well. Best of luck if you do try Skin Fix. Let us know! (PS, I think I recall the company promising return of postage as well but you'd have to go back to the website to check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi, Paraffin is a wax, but in all the items I have seen on liquid paraffin on the web it seems synonymous with mineral oil. You cannot dispute that liquid paraffin is a petroleum byproduct. I'm not a chemist by any means and perhaps Barry, our resident chemist can correct me, but liquid paraffin is a liquid at a certain temperature and turns hard at room temperature. It's chemical composition is similar to mineral oil and would probably cause problems for those rosaceans who react to mineral oil. Here are the urls I've found relating to liquid paraffin: http://www.1st-nutrition.com/ingredients/ing_109.html http://www.xrefer.com/entry/474272 http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v48aje08.htm http://www.alkachemical.com/activities.html Since liquid paraffin is a petroleum byproduct, it is not comparable to jojoba oil. The only thing they have in common is that they may be considered waxes, but the comparison ends there. Jojoba oil is similar to human sebum which is why it may work well for some rosaceans as a moisturizer. As well it is derived from a plant. Some rosaceans can tolerate mineral oil, but I just wanted to warn those who cannot tolerate mineral oil that liquid paraffin is such. Lastly, I did go to the SkinFix website and courier services are $27 USD to the US: " The cost of courier delivery is $27.00 USD. They quote 3 Business days for delivery to major cities. If you live outside a major city please allow longer. This service is not available on weekends. " https://www.creditcardguard.net.nz/~essentia/secure_order/orderform.ph p?cur=USD Then if it doesn't work out for you, you cannot get the courier costs reimbursed: Please note: " Delivery by International Courier is a customer option and in the unlikely event of a refund request the Courier cost is non recoverable. " http://www.essential-nz.com/order.htm When I first posted that you don't get the shipping costs returned to you I did see that on the website. It's best not to assume that a company is doing this for you. I know of very few companies who reimburse for shipping costs if you return the product. It looks like SkinFix is not one of these. If you're in the US you're out $27 if you want to return it, plus the cost of postage of sending it back which is probably another $27. I guess you'd be out $54 dollars if you try to return the thing. Take care, Matija -- In rosacea-support@y..., Mtfriede@a... wrote: > Paraffin is a wax not an oil. Waxes in cosmetics/soaps are generally used as > a solidifier and carrier of the active ingredients for ease of application, > othwerwise you'd have an unusable, unemulsified, gloopy mess. I could be > wrong but usually waxes are fairly inert and non-allergenic. I suspect that > beeswax may not be so innocent however given its relationship to honey (and > attendant various plant material) to which many people with outdoor allergies > may have severe allergic reactions. Perhaps that is why liquid and white > paraffins are used in many non-allergenic formulations, regardless of its > dubious relationship to petrochemicals . Interestingly Jojoba oil is > technically a wax as well. > > Best of luck if you do try Skin Fix. Let us know! (PS, I think I recall the > company promising return of postage as well but you'd have to go back to the > website to check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi, Paraffin is a wax, but in all the items I have seen on liquid paraffin on the web it seems synonymous with mineral oil. You cannot dispute that liquid paraffin is a petroleum byproduct. I'm not a chemist by any means and perhaps Barry, our resident chemist can correct me, but liquid paraffin is a liquid at a certain temperature and turns hard at room temperature. It's chemical composition is similar to mineral oil and would probably cause problems for those rosaceans who react to mineral oil. Here are the urls I've found relating to liquid paraffin: http://www.1st-nutrition.com/ingredients/ing_109.html http://www.xrefer.com/entry/474272 http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v48aje08.htm http://www.alkachemical.com/activities.html Since liquid paraffin is a petroleum byproduct, it is not comparable to jojoba oil. The only thing they have in common is that they may be considered waxes, but the comparison ends there. Jojoba oil is similar to human sebum which is why it may work well for some rosaceans as a moisturizer. As well it is derived from a plant. Some rosaceans can tolerate mineral oil, but I just wanted to warn those who cannot tolerate mineral oil that liquid paraffin is such. Lastly, I did go to the SkinFix website and courier services are $27 USD to the US: " The cost of courier delivery is $27.00 USD. They quote 3 Business days for delivery to major cities. If you live outside a major city please allow longer. This service is not available on weekends. " https://www.creditcardguard.net.nz/~essentia/secure_order/orderform.ph p?cur=USD Then if it doesn't work out for you, you cannot get the courier costs reimbursed: Please note: " Delivery by International Courier is a customer option and in the unlikely event of a refund request the Courier cost is non recoverable. " http://www.essential-nz.com/order.htm When I first posted that you don't get the shipping costs returned to you I did see that on the website. It's best not to assume that a company is doing this for you. I know of very few companies who reimburse for shipping costs if you return the product. It looks like SkinFix is not one of these. If you're in the US you're out $27 if you want to return it, plus the cost of postage of sending it back which is probably another $27. I guess you'd be out $54 dollars if you try to return the thing. Take care, Matija -- In rosacea-support@y..., Mtfriede@a... wrote: > Paraffin is a wax not an oil. Waxes in cosmetics/soaps are generally used as > a solidifier and carrier of the active ingredients for ease of application, > othwerwise you'd have an unusable, unemulsified, gloopy mess. I could be > wrong but usually waxes are fairly inert and non-allergenic. I suspect that > beeswax may not be so innocent however given its relationship to honey (and > attendant various plant material) to which many people with outdoor allergies > may have severe allergic reactions. Perhaps that is why liquid and white > paraffins are used in many non-allergenic formulations, regardless of its > dubious relationship to petrochemicals . Interestingly Jojoba oil is > technically a wax as well. > > Best of luck if you do try Skin Fix. Let us know! (PS, I think I recall the > company promising return of postage as well but you'd have to go back to the > website to check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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