rosacea.com verses rosacea.org

[Guest guest]

there has always been a concern or interest over profit verses non

profit with regard to rosacea treatment that somehow being non profit is

perceived better - however commercial ventures sometimes are better - it

is nice that there are both, but non profit sure is tricky --- good

thing there are lawyers to sort through all this and raise the price of

all the treatment, right?

an interesting development just recently occurred when the domain name

rosacea.com was bought by Dermik Lab in Feb 2002.

check out this url:

https://www.netsol.com/cgi-

bin/whois/whois?STRING=rosacea.com & STRING2.x=23 & STRING2.y=9 & SearchType=do

you can see the rosacea.com site at this url >

http://www.rosacea.com/

wonder what they paid for the name? It has been for sell for over three

years. Anyway, you can now get some of your information on rosacea at

rosacea.com or rosacea.org

and of course the National cea Society has rosacea.org

that is supposed to be profit verses non-profit since supposedly

non profit sites end in dot.org while profit sites end in dot.com

meaning 'commercial'

what is interesting is how the NRS is sponsored by Galderma which is

obvious since the only links mentioned on their site are physicians

organizations and InfoDerm which is a site owned by Galderma.

see this url >

http://www.rosacea.org/links.html

if you note the list of Board of Directors which is very impressive

and then note how many research grants go to the same universities that

the board of directors happen to also be on the faculty you can see

there seems to be a conflict of interest going on, but whom you may have

a different opinion.

see this url >

http://www.rosacea.org/grants/board.html

research grants >

http://www.rosacea.org/grants/awards.html

Are there any laymen who are rosacea sufferers on the board of

directors? All are medical doctors. I wrote an email to the NRS asking

for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So far no response. I

suppose that there is a way to get an account report from a non profit

organization somehow. Maybe someone knows. Maybe there ought to be an

International cea Society that is truly NON PROFIT and will not

accept grants from commercial organizations but the problem is that the

commercial organizations have all the money and donate to these non

profit organizations which are eagerly awaiting the funds to operate.

This is the accepted course for non profit organizations in the USA.

Money whether profit or non profit is still needed. I guess when you

think about it the NRS can do whatever they want with their money and

give it to whomever they please.

Pascoe is absolutely the only site I have seen that accepts no

commercial sponsors. Does anyone know of another site?

's site can be found here >

http://www.rosacea.ii.net/

Brady Barrows

--

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http://www.rosaceans.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans

http://www.rosacea-control.com

http://www.rosaceadiet.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group

[Guest guest]

there has always been a concern or interest over profit verses non

profit with regard to rosacea treatment that somehow being non profit is

perceived better - however commercial ventures sometimes are better - it

is nice that there are both, but non profit sure is tricky --- good

thing there are lawyers to sort through all this and raise the price of

all the treatment, right?

an interesting development just recently occurred when the domain name

rosacea.com was bought by Dermik Lab in Feb 2002.

check out this url:

https://www.netsol.com/cgi-

bin/whois/whois?STRING=rosacea.com & STRING2.x=23 & STRING2.y=9 & SearchType=do

you can see the rosacea.com site at this url >

http://www.rosacea.com/

wonder what they paid for the name? It has been for sell for over three

years. Anyway, you can now get some of your information on rosacea at

rosacea.com or rosacea.org

and of course the National cea Society has rosacea.org

that is supposed to be profit verses non-profit since supposedly

non profit sites end in dot.org while profit sites end in dot.com

meaning 'commercial'

what is interesting is how the NRS is sponsored by Galderma which is

obvious since the only links mentioned on their site are physicians

organizations and InfoDerm which is a site owned by Galderma.

see this url >

http://www.rosacea.org/links.html

if you note the list of Board of Directors which is very impressive

and then note how many research grants go to the same universities that

the board of directors happen to also be on the faculty you can see

there seems to be a conflict of interest going on, but whom you may have

a different opinion.

see this url >

http://www.rosacea.org/grants/board.html

research grants >

http://www.rosacea.org/grants/awards.html

Are there any laymen who are rosacea sufferers on the board of

directors? All are medical doctors. I wrote an email to the NRS asking

for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So far no response. I

suppose that there is a way to get an account report from a non profit

organization somehow. Maybe someone knows. Maybe there ought to be an

International cea Society that is truly NON PROFIT and will not

accept grants from commercial organizations but the problem is that the

commercial organizations have all the money and donate to these non

profit organizations which are eagerly awaiting the funds to operate.

This is the accepted course for non profit organizations in the USA.

Money whether profit or non profit is still needed. I guess when you

think about it the NRS can do whatever they want with their money and

give it to whomever they please.

Pascoe is absolutely the only site I have seen that accepts no

commercial sponsors. Does anyone know of another site?

's site can be found here >

http://www.rosacea.ii.net/

Brady Barrows

--

Brady Barrows - webmaster for

http://www.rosaceans.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans

http://www.rosacea-control.com

http://www.rosaceadiet.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group

[Guest guest]

after following the link to rosacea.com i looked at their own links

page and went to about-rosacea.com , and a popup appeared of

a " new " rosacea treatment called Zenmed. here's the link if anyone

wants to check it out.

it claims to reduce redness and visible vessels, pimples, and even

flushing. the typical rosacea miracle cure. who knows though,it might

work for some of us. in the " how it works " section i believe

there's a pretty detailed report on some of its ingredients, so

someone with expertise in that area might be able to give some

insight. anyway,heres the link :

http://zenmed.com/rosacea/

> there has always been a concern or interest over profit verses non

> profit with regard to rosacea treatment that somehow being non

profit is

> perceived better - however commercial ventures sometimes are

better - it

> is nice that there are both, but non profit sure is tricky --- good

> thing there are lawyers to sort through all this and raise the

price of

> all the treatment, right?

>

> an interesting development just recently occurred when the domain

name

> rosacea.com was bought by Dermik Lab in Feb 2002.

> check out this url:

>

> https://www.netsol.com/cgi-

> bin/whois/whois?

STRING=rosacea.com & STRING2.x=23 & STRING2.y=9 & SearchType=do

>

> you can see the rosacea.com site at this url >

>

> http://www.rosacea.com/

>

> wonder what they paid for the name? It has been for sell for over

three

> years. Anyway, you can now get some of your information on

rosacea at

> rosacea.com or rosacea.org

>

> and of course the National cea Society has rosacea.org

>

> that is supposed to be profit verses non-profit since supposedly

> non profit sites end in dot.org while profit sites end in dot.com

> meaning 'commercial'

>

> what is interesting is how the NRS is sponsored by Galderma which

is

> obvious since the only links mentioned on their site are physicians

> organizations and InfoDerm which is a site owned by Galderma.

>

> see this url >

> http://www.rosacea.org/links.html

>

> if you note the list of Board of Directors which is very impressive

> and then note how many research grants go to the same universities

that

> the board of directors happen to also be on the faculty you can see

> there seems to be a conflict of interest going on, but whom you may

have

> a different opinion.

>

> see this url >

> http://www.rosacea.org/grants/board.html

>

> research grants >

>

> http://www.rosacea.org/grants/awards.html

>

> Are there any laymen who are rosacea sufferers on the board of

> directors? All are medical doctors. I wrote an email to the NRS

asking

> for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So far no

response. I

> suppose that there is a way to get an account report from a non

profit

> organization somehow. Maybe someone knows. Maybe there ought to

be an

> International cea Society that is truly NON PROFIT and will not

> accept grants from commercial organizations but the problem is that

the

> commercial organizations have all the money and donate to these non

> profit organizations which are eagerly awaiting the funds to

operate.

> This is the accepted course for non profit organizations in the

USA.

> Money whether profit or non profit is still needed. I guess when

you

> think about it the NRS can do whatever they want with their money

and

> give it to whomever they please.

>

> Pascoe is absolutely the only site I have seen that accepts

no

> commercial sponsors. Does anyone know of another site?

>

> 's site can be found here >

>

> http://www.rosacea.ii.net/

>

> Brady Barrows

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Brady Barrows - webmaster for

> http://www.rosaceans.com

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans

> http://www.rosacea-control.com

> http://www.rosaceadiet.com

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

after following the link to rosacea.com i looked at their own links

page and went to about-rosacea.com , and a popup appeared of

a " new " rosacea treatment called Zenmed. here's the link if anyone

wants to check it out.

it claims to reduce redness and visible vessels, pimples, and even

flushing. the typical rosacea miracle cure. who knows though,it might

work for some of us. in the " how it works " section i believe

there's a pretty detailed report on some of its ingredients, so

someone with expertise in that area might be able to give some

insight. anyway,heres the link :

http://zenmed.com/rosacea/

> there has always been a concern or interest over profit verses non

> profit with regard to rosacea treatment that somehow being non

profit is

> perceived better - however commercial ventures sometimes are

better - it

> is nice that there are both, but non profit sure is tricky --- good

> thing there are lawyers to sort through all this and raise the

price of

> all the treatment, right?

>

> an interesting development just recently occurred when the domain

name

> rosacea.com was bought by Dermik Lab in Feb 2002.

> check out this url:

>

> https://www.netsol.com/cgi-

> bin/whois/whois?

STRING=rosacea.com & STRING2.x=23 & STRING2.y=9 & SearchType=do

>

> you can see the rosacea.com site at this url >

>

> http://www.rosacea.com/

>

> wonder what they paid for the name? It has been for sell for over

three

> years. Anyway, you can now get some of your information on

rosacea at

> rosacea.com or rosacea.org

>

> and of course the National cea Society has rosacea.org

>

> that is supposed to be profit verses non-profit since supposedly

> non profit sites end in dot.org while profit sites end in dot.com

> meaning 'commercial'

>

> what is interesting is how the NRS is sponsored by Galderma which

is

> obvious since the only links mentioned on their site are physicians

> organizations and InfoDerm which is a site owned by Galderma.

>

> see this url >

> http://www.rosacea.org/links.html

>

> if you note the list of Board of Directors which is very impressive

> and then note how many research grants go to the same universities

that

> the board of directors happen to also be on the faculty you can see

> there seems to be a conflict of interest going on, but whom you may

have

> a different opinion.

>

> see this url >

> http://www.rosacea.org/grants/board.html

>

> research grants >

>

> http://www.rosacea.org/grants/awards.html

>

> Are there any laymen who are rosacea sufferers on the board of

> directors? All are medical doctors. I wrote an email to the NRS

asking

> for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So far no

response. I

> suppose that there is a way to get an account report from a non

profit

> organization somehow. Maybe someone knows. Maybe there ought to

be an

> International cea Society that is truly NON PROFIT and will not

> accept grants from commercial organizations but the problem is that

the

> commercial organizations have all the money and donate to these non

> profit organizations which are eagerly awaiting the funds to

operate.

> This is the accepted course for non profit organizations in the

USA.

> Money whether profit or non profit is still needed. I guess when

you

> think about it the NRS can do whatever they want with their money

and

> give it to whomever they please.

>

> Pascoe is absolutely the only site I have seen that accepts

no

> commercial sponsors. Does anyone know of another site?

>

> 's site can be found here >

>

> http://www.rosacea.ii.net/

>

> Brady Barrows

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Brady Barrows - webmaster for

> http://www.rosaceans.com

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans

> http://www.rosacea-control.com

> http://www.rosaceadiet.com

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wrote an

> email to the NRS asking

> for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So

> far no response. I

> suppose that there is a way to get an account report

> from a non profit

> organization somehow. Maybe someone knows.

OK, I know a little about charities -

To find out information on charities, there are a

couple of sources:

1. Contact the charity directly and ask for their

most recently copy of their " Form 990 " . It is the tax

form that all charities must file to the IRS if they

have annual income (including contributions) over

$25,000. The Form 990 is available to the public

upon request. Requests may be made in person or in

writing. They may charge a copying fee. Requests in

writing have to be sent within 30 days of the request.

In person requests may be fulfilled that day or if

circumstances do not allow for copying then it must be

completed by the next business day. Note: There is a

section in the Form 990 which is a breakdown of

donations received, which is not public information

(but I have seen copies of 990's where charities

include it--probably not realizing that they don't

have to for the public.)

2. There is a website that will provide a " snapshot "

of financial information on charities -

www.guidestar.org It is free. Enter the name of the

charity in the search area. However, the latest

information on this site may be year 1999 or 2000.

But it does show a breakdown of income and expenses.

Hope this is helpful. Michele

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[Guest guest]

I wrote an

> email to the NRS asking

> for a breakdown of their expenses and receipts. So

> far no response. I

> suppose that there is a way to get an account report

> from a non profit

> organization somehow. Maybe someone knows.

OK, I know a little about charities -

To find out information on charities, there are a

couple of sources:

1. Contact the charity directly and ask for their

most recently copy of their " Form 990 " . It is the tax

form that all charities must file to the IRS if they

have annual income (including contributions) over

$25,000. The Form 990 is available to the public

upon request. Requests may be made in person or in

writing. They may charge a copying fee. Requests in

writing have to be sent within 30 days of the request.

In person requests may be fulfilled that day or if

circumstances do not allow for copying then it must be

completed by the next business day. Note: There is a

section in the Form 990 which is a breakdown of

donations received, which is not public information

(but I have seen copies of 990's where charities

include it--probably not realizing that they don't

have to for the public.)

2. There is a website that will provide a " snapshot "

of financial information on charities -

www.guidestar.org It is free. Enter the name of the

charity in the search area. However, the latest

information on this site may be year 1999 or 2000.

But it does show a breakdown of income and expenses.

Hope this is helpful. Michele

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