Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi, I found this article in the July 2002 issue of Dermatology Times. It's not a scientific study and it looks like the doc they're writing about has ties to the laser company. Take care, Matija Here's a link to the article if you want to look at the pictures of a few of her patients: http://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatologytimes/article/articleDetail ..jsp?id=24834 Laser offers relief in diminishing rosacea IPL technology eliminates redness, severity with visible results after two treatments July 1, 2002 By: Fred Dermatology Times Atlanta - Treatment of rosacea with an intense pulsed light laser not only eliminates telangiectasia but reduces background redness and the severity and frequency of flushing episodes. " Lasers can get rid of blood vessels, " said Amy Forman Taub, M.D., director, division of dermatology, Northwestern Memorial Physicians Group, Northbrook, Ill. " You've got somebody a lot better with medical treatment, but then you have fixed and dilated vessels and background redness that you can't get to go away. Lasers pick up where the medical treatment leaves off. " Dr. Taub presented her findings at the annual meeting of the American Society of Laser Medicine and Surgery. According to Dr. Taub, conventional treatment of rosacea consists of oral and topical antibiotics, particularly tetracycline and its derivatives. " We don't know the etiology of rosacea, but the prevailing theory is that it's bacterial because the only thing that can be used successfully to treat it is antibiotics, " she said. There are other theories, she added, but most agree that rosacea results in a huge number of tiny blood vessels that create background redness and another population of larger vessels that have dilated and constricted so many times that they've lost their ability to constrict. " The laser can get rid of both populations, " Dr. Taub said. " Like any treatment, some patients are treated more successfully than others. I tell all my patients that the laser doesn't cure rosacea and it may have to be repeated. " I use the Vasculight Plus intense pulsed light source (Lumenis) with the Skin Rejuvenation Treatment Head and a 570nm cutoff filter, " Dr. Taub said. " As an adjunct, I occasionally use a 1064nm pulsed YAG laser to get rid of the larger telangiectasias around the nose. " Depending on vessel size and instrument parameters, she added, 532nm to 600nm lasers can also be used. Although any vascular laser would work, Dr. Taub said, the long- pulse, pulsed dye laser produces results that most closely resemble her own. " You wouldn't want to do an overall facial treatment with a regular pulsed dye laser because the patient would look completely purple, " she said. " The long-pulse, pulsed dye laser doesn't create as much purpura as the regular pulsed dye laser and has essentially the same target. But the wavelength is fixed at 595nm and the system has a smaller spot size piece. It might have a 1cm spot size; my spot size is 4cm x 1cm. " Dr. Taub's laser has no built-in cooling unit, so she uses the Cryo- 5, a separate air cooling system (Zimmer, Germany). " The Cryo-5 has enabled us to increase the aggressiveness of our treatments, decrease our incidence of complications, and reduce the need for topical anesthesia, " she said. Most patients know that insurance companies do not usually cover laser treatment of rosacea, Dr. Taub said. If a patient wants to try for reimbursement, Dr. Taub writes a letter stating that (1) the patient has rosacea, a medical condition; (2) the patient has tried medical therapy with less success than hoped; and (3) Dr. Taub has elected to try the laser as a valid treatment of the rosacea. " The insurance company can decide whether or not it's medically necessary, " Dr. Taub said. " Some companies have covered it. " With proper precautions, the complication rate of laser procedures is low, according to Dr. Taub. " Wearing goggles for eye safety is a given, " she said. A burn on the skin may result if the energy is too high or the patient absorbs too much energy, she added. " The skin of a tanned person could absorb a lot of the light energy because the melanin is high up in the epidermis and the epidermis could become overheated, " she said. " We want the heat in the blood vessel in the superficial dermis. The skin can become hyperpigmented if heated too much, or you can slough the epidermis. I've never had a single scar, even with hyperpigmentation or sloughing epidermis, and I've given 300 to 400 laser treatments (including some to men) with no permanent adverse events. " There is also one paper showing that this treatment works quite well for the redness of lupus, she added. No lasers for pregnant patients Dr. Taub does not give laser treatments to pregnant women. Although she asks patients if they have a history of herpes simplex, she has seen no cases of exacerbation of herpes as a result of stimulation by the flashing laser light. As for medication restrictions, Dr. Taub's treatments have not caused problems in patients taking photosensitizing drugs. " People on anticoagulants have a tendency to bruise more, but I don't restrict it. " she said. " I just warn them they will bruise more. " Dr. Taub's procedure requires no time away from work in >95 percent of her patients. " Patients have down time if they are very tanned, have lentigines, or get bruises, " she said. " If a patient is tanned, I decrease the dosage and delay the treatment. Lentigines get darker with treatment because the epidermal cells in the area have become coagulated and they peel off during the week after treatment. The patient can put makeup over it because it's not a deep slough. If a patient has really severe rosacea, I may have to push the laser hard enough to cause purpura, and I just warn the patient about this. " In >95 percent of the cases, however, there is no break in the skin and patients can apply makeup immediately after treatment, she added. Dr. Taub tells rosacea patients not to expect improvement until two weeks after the second treatment. " Some get a great response after the first treatment, " she said. " Patients usually have three to five treatments with four weeks between treatments. " Dr. Taub is experimenting with the cooling unit so she can increase the energy per treatment, thus potentially reducing the number of treatments and the expense to the patient. " Patients must be made aware that laser treatment is not a cure for rosacea, " Dr. Taub said. With that caveat, she cited three primary goals her patients want to achieve: (1) reduce redness, (2) reduce the frequency or intensity of flushing episodes, (3) and stop wearing makeup and taking antibiotics. " Until I started doing this laser treatment, I didn't realize how profoundly rosacea affects people's lives, " Dr. Taub said. " They feel self-conscious, and it's hard to hide with makeup. " Dr. Taub is a consultant to Lumenis Inc. Her study received no funding. For more information Angermeier MC. Treatment of facial vascular lesions with intense pulsed light. J Cutan Laser Ther 1999;1:95-100. Laughlin SA, Dudley DK. Laser therapy in the management of rosacea. J Cutan Med Surg 1998;2 Suppl 4:S4-24-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi, I found this article in the July 2002 issue of Dermatology Times. It's not a scientific study and it looks like the doc they're writing about has ties to the laser company. Take care, Matija Here's a link to the article if you want to look at the pictures of a few of her patients: http://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatologytimes/article/articleDetail ..jsp?id=24834 Laser offers relief in diminishing rosacea IPL technology eliminates redness, severity with visible results after two treatments July 1, 2002 By: Fred Dermatology Times Atlanta - Treatment of rosacea with an intense pulsed light laser not only eliminates telangiectasia but reduces background redness and the severity and frequency of flushing episodes. " Lasers can get rid of blood vessels, " said Amy Forman Taub, M.D., director, division of dermatology, Northwestern Memorial Physicians Group, Northbrook, Ill. " You've got somebody a lot better with medical treatment, but then you have fixed and dilated vessels and background redness that you can't get to go away. Lasers pick up where the medical treatment leaves off. " Dr. Taub presented her findings at the annual meeting of the American Society of Laser Medicine and Surgery. According to Dr. Taub, conventional treatment of rosacea consists of oral and topical antibiotics, particularly tetracycline and its derivatives. " We don't know the etiology of rosacea, but the prevailing theory is that it's bacterial because the only thing that can be used successfully to treat it is antibiotics, " she said. There are other theories, she added, but most agree that rosacea results in a huge number of tiny blood vessels that create background redness and another population of larger vessels that have dilated and constricted so many times that they've lost their ability to constrict. " The laser can get rid of both populations, " Dr. Taub said. " Like any treatment, some patients are treated more successfully than others. I tell all my patients that the laser doesn't cure rosacea and it may have to be repeated. " I use the Vasculight Plus intense pulsed light source (Lumenis) with the Skin Rejuvenation Treatment Head and a 570nm cutoff filter, " Dr. Taub said. " As an adjunct, I occasionally use a 1064nm pulsed YAG laser to get rid of the larger telangiectasias around the nose. " Depending on vessel size and instrument parameters, she added, 532nm to 600nm lasers can also be used. Although any vascular laser would work, Dr. Taub said, the long- pulse, pulsed dye laser produces results that most closely resemble her own. " You wouldn't want to do an overall facial treatment with a regular pulsed dye laser because the patient would look completely purple, " she said. " The long-pulse, pulsed dye laser doesn't create as much purpura as the regular pulsed dye laser and has essentially the same target. But the wavelength is fixed at 595nm and the system has a smaller spot size piece. It might have a 1cm spot size; my spot size is 4cm x 1cm. " Dr. Taub's laser has no built-in cooling unit, so she uses the Cryo- 5, a separate air cooling system (Zimmer, Germany). " The Cryo-5 has enabled us to increase the aggressiveness of our treatments, decrease our incidence of complications, and reduce the need for topical anesthesia, " she said. Most patients know that insurance companies do not usually cover laser treatment of rosacea, Dr. Taub said. If a patient wants to try for reimbursement, Dr. Taub writes a letter stating that (1) the patient has rosacea, a medical condition; (2) the patient has tried medical therapy with less success than hoped; and (3) Dr. Taub has elected to try the laser as a valid treatment of the rosacea. " The insurance company can decide whether or not it's medically necessary, " Dr. Taub said. " Some companies have covered it. " With proper precautions, the complication rate of laser procedures is low, according to Dr. Taub. " Wearing goggles for eye safety is a given, " she said. A burn on the skin may result if the energy is too high or the patient absorbs too much energy, she added. " The skin of a tanned person could absorb a lot of the light energy because the melanin is high up in the epidermis and the epidermis could become overheated, " she said. " We want the heat in the blood vessel in the superficial dermis. The skin can become hyperpigmented if heated too much, or you can slough the epidermis. I've never had a single scar, even with hyperpigmentation or sloughing epidermis, and I've given 300 to 400 laser treatments (including some to men) with no permanent adverse events. " There is also one paper showing that this treatment works quite well for the redness of lupus, she added. No lasers for pregnant patients Dr. Taub does not give laser treatments to pregnant women. Although she asks patients if they have a history of herpes simplex, she has seen no cases of exacerbation of herpes as a result of stimulation by the flashing laser light. As for medication restrictions, Dr. Taub's treatments have not caused problems in patients taking photosensitizing drugs. " People on anticoagulants have a tendency to bruise more, but I don't restrict it. " she said. " I just warn them they will bruise more. " Dr. Taub's procedure requires no time away from work in >95 percent of her patients. " Patients have down time if they are very tanned, have lentigines, or get bruises, " she said. " If a patient is tanned, I decrease the dosage and delay the treatment. Lentigines get darker with treatment because the epidermal cells in the area have become coagulated and they peel off during the week after treatment. The patient can put makeup over it because it's not a deep slough. If a patient has really severe rosacea, I may have to push the laser hard enough to cause purpura, and I just warn the patient about this. " In >95 percent of the cases, however, there is no break in the skin and patients can apply makeup immediately after treatment, she added. Dr. Taub tells rosacea patients not to expect improvement until two weeks after the second treatment. " Some get a great response after the first treatment, " she said. " Patients usually have three to five treatments with four weeks between treatments. " Dr. Taub is experimenting with the cooling unit so she can increase the energy per treatment, thus potentially reducing the number of treatments and the expense to the patient. " Patients must be made aware that laser treatment is not a cure for rosacea, " Dr. Taub said. With that caveat, she cited three primary goals her patients want to achieve: (1) reduce redness, (2) reduce the frequency or intensity of flushing episodes, (3) and stop wearing makeup and taking antibiotics. " Until I started doing this laser treatment, I didn't realize how profoundly rosacea affects people's lives, " Dr. Taub said. " They feel self-conscious, and it's hard to hide with makeup. " Dr. Taub is a consultant to Lumenis Inc. Her study received no funding. For more information Angermeier MC. Treatment of facial vascular lesions with intense pulsed light. J Cutan Laser Ther 1999;1:95-100. Laughlin SA, Dudley DK. Laser therapy in the management of rosacea. J Cutan Med Surg 1998;2 Suppl 4:S4-24-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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