Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hey all, I have been over at the pecanbread for ages getting my kiddos on the right track, but I have been trying to keep up with this list too. You guys are too full of great info and AWESOME recipes <wink> to ignore this list! Now I have a good friend with an undiagnosed gut problem who is doing SCD and is curious about using Aloe Vera. She wants to drink it and is wondering if anyone has done that and if so, how it affected them. She has read that it is sometimes used by people with Crohn's and colitis as well. If anyone has any experience with this, you can post on the list or email me off list, whatever you prefer! Thanks so much! Chrissy mama to 3 boys on SCD 8 months and thriving!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hey all, I have been over at the pecanbread for ages getting my kiddos on the right track, but I have been trying to keep up with this list too. You guys are too full of great info and AWESOME recipes <wink> to ignore this list! Now I have a good friend with an undiagnosed gut problem who is doing SCD and is curious about using Aloe Vera. She wants to drink it and is wondering if anyone has done that and if so, how it affected them. She has read that it is sometimes used by people with Crohn's and colitis as well. If anyone has any experience with this, you can post on the list or email me off list, whatever you prefer! Thanks so much! Chrissy mama to 3 boys on SCD 8 months and thriving!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Chrissy, Aloe vera is bad ju-ju. Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous polysaccharides as well as increasing the release of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Chrissy, Aloe vera is bad ju-ju. Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous polysaccharides as well as increasing the release of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 As Marilyn said, it is illegal. Pre-SCD, I tried it. It cures *everything* externally so I thought organic aloe vera juice would be great. I came so very close to passing out. Made me very light-headed, nauseas and had to try it again *just in case* but it does that everytime. Even if it were legal, I'd avoid it. I asked my GI doc and she said it could do permanent damage (I guess worse than we have?). Debbie 40 cd > > Chrissy, > > Aloe vera is bad ju-ju. > > Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous > polysaccharides as well as increasing the release > of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with > IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 As Marilyn said, it is illegal. Pre-SCD, I tried it. It cures *everything* externally so I thought organic aloe vera juice would be great. I came so very close to passing out. Made me very light-headed, nauseas and had to try it again *just in case* but it does that everytime. Even if it were legal, I'd avoid it. I asked my GI doc and she said it could do permanent damage (I guess worse than we have?). Debbie 40 cd > > Chrissy, > > Aloe vera is bad ju-ju. > > Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous > polysaccharides as well as increasing the release > of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with > IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 > Hey all, I have been over at the pecanbread for ages getting my kiddos on the right track, but I have been trying to keep up with this list too. You guys are too full of great info and AWESOME recipes <wink> to ignore this list! Now I have a good friend with an undiagnosed gut problem who is doing SCD and is curious about using Aloe Vera. She wants to drink it and is wondering if anyone has done that and if so, how it affected them. > She has read that it is sometimes used by people with Crohn's and colitis as well. > If anyone has any experience with this, you can post on the list or email me off list, whatever you prefer! Yeah, I used it a few months pre-SCD. Actually, very over priced aloe pills. It was actually pretty effective for some weeks or months - don't remember how long precisely - until thanksgiving hit and I pigged out on a whole lot of Papa Beard's indescribably scrumptious pumpkin cream puffs, which was, like, my favorite indulgence at the time. (Actually, I preferred caramel to pumpkin, but that was a season special.) And of course I didn't understand the whole sugar/bacteria/inflammatory reaction that was taking place. And why it was no longer effective after that point. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 > Hey all, I have been over at the pecanbread for ages getting my kiddos on the right track, but I have been trying to keep up with this list too. You guys are too full of great info and AWESOME recipes <wink> to ignore this list! Now I have a good friend with an undiagnosed gut problem who is doing SCD and is curious about using Aloe Vera. She wants to drink it and is wondering if anyone has done that and if so, how it affected them. > She has read that it is sometimes used by people with Crohn's and colitis as well. > If anyone has any experience with this, you can post on the list or email me off list, whatever you prefer! Yeah, I used it a few months pre-SCD. Actually, very over priced aloe pills. It was actually pretty effective for some weeks or months - don't remember how long precisely - until thanksgiving hit and I pigged out on a whole lot of Papa Beard's indescribably scrumptious pumpkin cream puffs, which was, like, my favorite indulgence at the time. (Actually, I preferred caramel to pumpkin, but that was a season special.) And of course I didn't understand the whole sugar/bacteria/inflammatory reaction that was taking place. And why it was no longer effective after that point. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Aloe Vera is SCD illegal if you look on the legal/illegal list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Aloe Vera is SCD illegal if you look on the legal/illegal list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Earthymom88 Maybe this has been discussed before but I didn't see anything on it. Why is aloe vera juice bad for scd? My dad who has crohn's swears by it and so does my sister-in-law who has ibs swears that's what helps her too. Just curious what you think? http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aloe_vera.htm Can someone remember why Aloe Vera juice is NOT recommended for us? Deborah writes: It contains a very powerful carthartic, anthroquinone, which naturally would be extremely irritating to the gut, to say the least. Even in products with the anthroquinone removed, one doesn't know if it's completely gone, whether traces remain, what was used to remove it, etc. ************************ Lydia sends this in: Re Aloes: " ... a potent immunostimulant. ...effects noted include the enhancement of macrophage release of TUMOUR NECROSIS FACTOR.. these effects can be quite substantial " from Textbook of Natural Medicine, Murray and Pizzorno, p582. In response, Elaine writes: One of the LAST things you want with IBD! From the LI listserve And from the Legal/Illegal List: Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous polysaccharides as well as increasing the release of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. Carol CD 22 yrs SCD 5 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Earthymom88 Maybe this has been discussed before but I didn't see anything on it. Why is aloe vera juice bad for scd? My dad who has crohn's swears by it and so does my sister-in-law who has ibs swears that's what helps her too. Just curious what you think? http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aloe_vera.htm Can someone remember why Aloe Vera juice is NOT recommended for us? Deborah writes: It contains a very powerful carthartic, anthroquinone, which naturally would be extremely irritating to the gut, to say the least. Even in products with the anthroquinone removed, one doesn't know if it's completely gone, whether traces remain, what was used to remove it, etc. ************************ Lydia sends this in: Re Aloes: " ... a potent immunostimulant. ...effects noted include the enhancement of macrophage release of TUMOUR NECROSIS FACTOR.. these effects can be quite substantial " from Textbook of Natural Medicine, Murray and Pizzorno, p582. In response, Elaine writes: One of the LAST things you want with IBD! From the LI listserve And from the Legal/Illegal List: Aloe Vera Illegal It contains mucilaginous polysaccharides as well as increasing the release of tumor necrosis factor which is associated with IBD inflammation and increased immune stimulation. Carol CD 22 yrs SCD 5 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 At 09:45 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: My doc put me on 's " Always Active " Aloe Vera because it is different than all the others and distilled. This is the same doc who put me on the SCD diet. (Boy, am I confused!) I copied and pasted below info about this product. Because of the way it's made, is this one legal? If not, then I can't understand why my doc put me on it? I wonder if I will ever figure this stuff out. Claire, Many doctors who recommend SCD don't understand its ins and outs. They recommend SCD. Then they recommend stuff which is SCD-legal. And don't understand that SCD requires fanatical adherence. Aloe vera just isn't legal. No matter what they've done to it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 At 09:45 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: My doc put me on 's " Always Active " Aloe Vera because it is different than all the others and distilled. This is the same doc who put me on the SCD diet. (Boy, am I confused!) I copied and pasted below info about this product. Because of the way it's made, is this one legal? If not, then I can't understand why my doc put me on it? I wonder if I will ever figure this stuff out. Claire, Many doctors who recommend SCD don't understand its ins and outs. They recommend SCD. Then they recommend stuff which is SCD-legal. And don't understand that SCD requires fanatical adherence. Aloe vera just isn't legal. No matter what they've done to it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thanks Marilynn. I quit using it. This is the same doc who put me on SCD and then told me to start using Ultra Flora IB which contains bifi. So confusing. Claire Re: aloe vera At 09:45 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: My doc put me on 's "Always Active" Aloe Vera because it is different than all the others and distilled. This is the same doc who put me on the SCD diet. (Boy, am I confused!) I copied and pasted below info about this product. Because of the way it's made, is this one legal? If not, then I can't understand why my doc put me on it? I wonder if I will ever figure this stuff out. Claire, Many doctors who recommend SCD don't understand its ins and outs. They recommend SCD. Then they recommend stuff which is SCD-legal. And don't understand that SCD requires fanatical adherence. Aloe vera just isn't legal. No matter what they've done to it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thanks Marilynn. I quit using it. This is the same doc who put me on SCD and then told me to start using Ultra Flora IB which contains bifi. So confusing. Claire Re: aloe vera At 09:45 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote: My doc put me on 's "Always Active" Aloe Vera because it is different than all the others and distilled. This is the same doc who put me on the SCD diet. (Boy, am I confused!) I copied and pasted below info about this product. Because of the way it's made, is this one legal? If not, then I can't understand why my doc put me on it? I wonder if I will ever figure this stuff out. Claire, Many doctors who recommend SCD don't understand its ins and outs. They recommend SCD. Then they recommend stuff which is SCD-legal. And don't understand that SCD requires fanatical adherence. Aloe vera just isn't legal. No matter what they've done to it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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