Fighting Possible Yeast

February 6, 2010

i've never had many " symptoms " per se but am having nausea again and stool tests

should tons of yeast and now fat and undigested foods - so it is affecting me,

my son has the same redness on his penis right now as you- 4 months into scd -

i'm applying nystatin cream and he and I have no honey or fruit and are only

stage 3 (me) - he's just starting 3 today- you can get calories w/o fruit and

yeast triggers

use olive oil, avocado steak ,1/2 & 1/2 yog- use fitday.com to make sure you're

getting however many cal you need with the foods you can have - I needed 3000 a

day but started healing more important to kill the yeast than worry too much

about weight now - as I've learned 2 years in !!!

all that honey and fruit was yummy , had no clue it was feeding a HUGE yeast

problem from living off sugar for years!!

eileen

2 years scd

>

> Kim and others-

>

> I have yeast problem -- red and white coloration on my penis and foreskin. I

did take Diflucan, it went away only to come back.

>

> I also started having prostatitis soon after I started SCD, and there are

theories that Candida may be one of the causes of prostatitis.

>

> I see the following: sometimes my stool is slightly white on the outside, and

there are few white strands floating around (that doesn't quite look like

mucus). Also there are few strands floating around when I pass my urine. Do

these sound like yeast problems?

>

> I am not sure my MD will buy this.

>

> I did take a look at your file on yeast: Regarding food, I don't take honey.

But I am still in early stages and so I have problems eliminating fruits and

fruit juices because of calories.

>

> I take OoO. Any other natural remedies?

>

> Any advise?

>

> Thanks,

> Andy.

>

February 6, 2010

Would rubbing coconut oil onto the affected, red areas be of any

help? It does have anti-fungal properties. What about using Lauricidin as part

of the anti-fungal rotation? (lauricidin.com)

Carol

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

i've never had many " symptoms " per se but am having nausea again and

stool tests should tons of yeast and now fat and undigested foods - so it is

affecting me, my son has the same redness on his penis right now as you- 4

months into scd - i'm applying nystatin cream and he and I have no honey or

fruit and are only stage 3 (me) - he's just starting 3 today- you can get

calories w/o fruit and yeast triggers

In BTVC-SCD ,

" Andy Ram " wrote:

> I have yeast problem -- red and white coloration on my penis and foreskin.

I did take Diflucan, it went away only to come back.

>

_,_._,___

February 6, 2010

Would rubbing coconut oil onto the affected, red areas be of any

help? It does have anti-fungal properties. What about using Lauricidin as part

of the anti-fungal rotation? (lauricidin.com)

Carol

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

i've never had many " symptoms " per se but am having nausea again and

stool tests should tons of yeast and now fat and undigested foods - so it is

affecting me, my son has the same redness on his penis right now as you- 4

months into scd - i'm applying nystatin cream and he and I have no honey or

fruit and are only stage 3 (me) - he's just starting 3 today- you can get

calories w/o fruit and yeast triggers

In BTVC-SCD ,

" Andy Ram " wrote:

> I have yeast problem -- red and white coloration on my penis and foreskin.

I did take Diflucan, it went away only to come back.

>

_,_._,___

February 6, 2010

Eileen-

1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb'

veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans,

carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest

(at least for me).

I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you

get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't

say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of

probiotics.

3. Will S. boulardii help?

LIFE SUCKS.

I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

-Andy.

February 6, 2010

Eileen-

1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb'

veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans,

carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest

(at least for me).

I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you

get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't

say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of

probiotics.

3. Will S. boulardii help?

LIFE SUCKS.

I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

-Andy.

February 6, 2010

Those were the only foods I could eat normally and rotated them daily for months if not longer (except green peas, still can only handle early early young peas).

Debbie 40 cd

Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans, carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest (at least for me).

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February 6, 2010

Those were the only foods I could eat normally and rotated them daily for months if not longer (except green peas, still can only handle early early young peas).

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Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans, carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest (at least for me).

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February 6, 2010

Andy,S. boulardii will help, but with all anti-fungal remedies, you will have die-off and increased symptoms for a while--especially if you go too quickly. Sanjay just wroked up to 3 capsules of s. boulardii twice a day and his face started to get worse. I think he is going to go back down to 2 twice a day so that the symptoms aren't so much.Hang in there, it will get better eventually. In the meantime oil of oregano works topically as well as internally. Check out this page http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/skin3.phpAmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months LDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 9:29:17 PMSubject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

Eileen-

1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb' veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans, carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest (at least for me).

I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of probiotics.

3. Will S. boulardii help?

LIFE SUCKS.

I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

-Andy.

February 6, 2010

Andy,S. boulardii will help, but with all anti-fungal remedies, you will have die-off and increased symptoms for a while--especially if you go too quickly. Sanjay just wroked up to 3 capsules of s. boulardii twice a day and his face started to get worse. I think he is going to go back down to 2 twice a day so that the symptoms aren't so much.Hang in there, it will get better eventually. In the meantime oil of oregano works topically as well as internally. Check out this page http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/skin3.phpAmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months LDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 9:29:17 PMSubject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

Eileen-

1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb' veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans, carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest (at least for me).

I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of probiotics.

3. Will S. boulardii help?

LIFE SUCKS.

I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

-Andy.

February 6, 2010

i asked my son's reg GI to do it - problem was when it came back with yeast - he

didn't see that as a prob - lol - but they can order a stool culture/yeast

culture both

yes eliminate it all and i'm not putting it back soon - fitday said i eat about

2200-2500 now was 3000 when making sure i was getting enough - we'll talk -

awful with phone time but i'll try

eileen

>

> Eileen-

>

> 1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

>

> 2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb'

veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans,

carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest

(at least for me).

>

> I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you

get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

>

> Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't

say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of

probiotics.

>

> 3. Will S. boulardii help?

>

> LIFE SUCKS.

>

> I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

>

> -Andy.

>

February 6, 2010

i asked my son's reg GI to do it - problem was when it came back with yeast - he

didn't see that as a prob - lol - but they can order a stool culture/yeast

culture both

yes eliminate it all and i'm not putting it back soon - fitday said i eat about

2200-2500 now was 3000 when making sure i was getting enough - we'll talk -

awful with phone time but i'll try

eileen

>

> Eileen-

>

> 1. How and where did you do the stool test for yeast? Can regular MDs do it?

>

> 2. Is the basic idea to eliminate/minimize 'sugary' fruits and 'high carb'

veggies, including juices? Fruits like bananas, and Veggies like lima beans,

carrots, peas and squash????? And these are easy to cook and eat, and to digest

(at least for me).

>

> I do see the Candida elimination diet in stages -- I don't get it?? How do you

get enough calories? I need ~1.5 to 2 K/day.

>

> Some websites even suggest minimize 'yogurt' -- is that right? But SCD doesn't

say that -- may be because ours is fully fermented yogurt with tons of

probiotics.

>

> 3. Will S. boulardii help?

>

> LIFE SUCKS.

>

> I am sorry, I am pissed at the hand we're dealt with.

>

> -Andy.

>

February 6, 2010

Do you have a warm or cold mist humidifier? I think cold are supposed to be more

likely to be " germy " . I have a warm mist humidifier, and place several drops of

GSE in the water at each refill, which I read is supposed to help kill any icky

things living in there as well.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hmm - I'm wondering if my humidifier is encouraging my

> sinusitis yeast (if that is what I have.)

>

> The other day, after coming home from a few days away, I definitely

> noticed some pressure in my head.

>

> But I feel worse without it.

>

> Mara

>

February 6, 2010

Do you have a warm or cold mist humidifier? I think cold are supposed to be more

likely to be " germy " . I have a warm mist humidifier, and place several drops of

GSE in the water at each refill, which I read is supposed to help kill any icky

things living in there as well.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hmm - I'm wondering if my humidifier is encouraging my

> sinusitis yeast (if that is what I have.)

>

> The other day, after coming home from a few days away, I definitely

> noticed some pressure in my head.

>

> But I feel worse without it.

>

> Mara

>

February 7, 2010

Andy

It sounds like a yeast/candida overgrowth. They can form rhizoid structures that show up in stools; haven't come across a mention of them showing up in urine but it wouldn't surprise me. The skin rash and location also sounds like candida.

Remember that if your gut ecology is out of balance, your digestion isn't working normally, and your immune system is overwhelmed, the opportunistic candida will get out of control. Sticking to SCD foods over the long term will help with this problem.

However, if you want to move the candida elimination process faster, you can take natural or prescription antifungals. The prescription antifungals, like Diflucan, are stressful on the body, so shouldn't be taken over the long-term. Nystatin is an easier-on-the-body prescription antifungal, if your doctor will consider it. OoO is a good natural antifungal, but it helps to alternate between 2 or 3 types.

You don't necessarily have to eliminate the yeast trigger foods like fruit and fruit juices, just cut back on the amounts and pick the least-sweet varieties that you can find. Same with the other trigger foods -- cut back on the amount and frequency, especially if they are foods your digestion can't completely breakdown. You want to eliminate fermentation along intestinal tract in order to starve out the candida.

Eat as much of the low-carb veggies your body will tolerate, as well as plenty of protein from fish, meats and eggs. Also stay hydrated.

You also need to take probiotics regularly in order to replace dying yeast or help force them out. If your digestion isn't tolerating yogurt yet, then use a legal L. Acidophilus or S. Boulardii supplement.

And over time your gut ecology will be restored, your immune system will be able to handle the toxins, and your digestion should improve. Takes time and patience. But it will come.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

>>>>>>>>>>>>

also started having prostatitis soon after I started SCD, and there are theories that Candida may be one of the causes of prostatitis. I see the following: sometimes my stool is slightly white on the outside, and there are few white strands floating around (that doesn't quite look like mucus). Also there are few strands floating around when I pass my urine. Do these sound like yeast problems?I am not sure my MD will buy this.I did take a look at your file on yeast: Regarding food, I don't take honey. But I am still in early stages and so I have problems eliminating fruits and fruit juices because of calories.

February 7, 2010

Andy

It sounds like a yeast/candida overgrowth. They can form rhizoid structures that show up in stools; haven't come across a mention of them showing up in urine but it wouldn't surprise me. The skin rash and location also sounds like candida.

Remember that if your gut ecology is out of balance, your digestion isn't working normally, and your immune system is overwhelmed, the opportunistic candida will get out of control. Sticking to SCD foods over the long term will help with this problem.

However, if you want to move the candida elimination process faster, you can take natural or prescription antifungals. The prescription antifungals, like Diflucan, are stressful on the body, so shouldn't be taken over the long-term. Nystatin is an easier-on-the-body prescription antifungal, if your doctor will consider it. OoO is a good natural antifungal, but it helps to alternate between 2 or 3 types.

You don't necessarily have to eliminate the yeast trigger foods like fruit and fruit juices, just cut back on the amounts and pick the least-sweet varieties that you can find. Same with the other trigger foods -- cut back on the amount and frequency, especially if they are foods your digestion can't completely breakdown. You want to eliminate fermentation along intestinal tract in order to starve out the candida.

Eat as much of the low-carb veggies your body will tolerate, as well as plenty of protein from fish, meats and eggs. Also stay hydrated.

You also need to take probiotics regularly in order to replace dying yeast or help force them out. If your digestion isn't tolerating yogurt yet, then use a legal L. Acidophilus or S. Boulardii supplement.

And over time your gut ecology will be restored, your immune system will be able to handle the toxins, and your digestion should improve. Takes time and patience. But it will come.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

>>>>>>>>>>>>

also started having prostatitis soon after I started SCD, and there are theories that Candida may be one of the causes of prostatitis. I see the following: sometimes my stool is slightly white on the outside, and there are few white strands floating around (that doesn't quite look like mucus). Also there are few strands floating around when I pass my urine. Do these sound like yeast problems?I am not sure my MD will buy this.I did take a look at your file on yeast: Regarding food, I don't take honey. But I am still in early stages and so I have problems eliminating fruits and fruit juices because of calories.

February 7, 2010

Mara,

So do you feel that SCD isn't enough to control your UC? Or would it just take

longer to get to the place you are at with the LDN? Do you think you'll ever be

able to stop taking LDN?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> I hadn't been. But lately because the LDN wasn't working

> and I was having some symptoms beginning to return - I started that

> vitamin E protocol - found it really helpful so far. I guess I'll do that

> for a while more - a few more weeks - but it is not meant to be a long term

> thingy.

>

> And for the yeast I started candex (which advertises no die off - hah!)

>

> Mara (who thought she sent this off hours ago, but obviously not.)

February 7, 2010

Mara,

So do you feel that SCD isn't enough to control your UC? Or would it just take

longer to get to the place you are at with the LDN? Do you think you'll ever be

able to stop taking LDN?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> I hadn't been. But lately because the LDN wasn't working

> and I was having some symptoms beginning to return - I started that

> vitamin E protocol - found it really helpful so far. I guess I'll do that

> for a while more - a few more weeks - but it is not meant to be a long term

> thingy.

>

> And for the yeast I started candex (which advertises no die off - hah!)

>

> Mara (who thought she sent this off hours ago, but obviously not.)

February 10, 2010

I would like to know which is the product that is being used instead of googling and not knowing what and where. How much is the dosage for an adult? How often does it get taken? Does it have to be monitored with blood tests? Etc....

All my tests came back negative including for parasites. But I am dealing with thrush and candida in the esophagus mostly which sometimes effects my bowel movements. I have been doing very well on the scd diet, but I am not getting anywhere to a comfort zone with my thrush. So any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

> yeast! yuck, we have been fighting it too so badly. I am new to this board, but a lurker...a regular poster on the pecanbread group for kids. i have wondered also why so many of us are fighting yeast. one thing i discovered is that iodine defidiency can contribute to yeast/bacterial overgrowth and toxicity in general. i have started giving my SCD kids therapeutic doses of iodine (google iodine loading) and have seen absolutely fantastic results.How much is a therapeutic adult dose considered to be? What kind of supplement does it come inWhat kind of anti-yeast results have you seen with increased iodine?Does this also effect the performance of the thyroid? > iodine is more than just an anti-fungal/anti-bacterial. it resides in yoru thyroid and all ofy our blood passest hrough your thyroid every 17 minutes, killing off yucky buggers and also cleansing your blood from heavy metals. most americans, they say now, are severely deficient due to florine and bromine in our diets which compete with iodine for a place in our bodies (and are also toxic). I was looking up iodine the other day - and apparently there is quite a bitin eggs - and given how egg reliant SCDers are, that's one sure fire way,at least, that we are getting iodine. Between the cakes and the souffle bread and the hollandaise sauces, notto mention eggs...Mara

February 10, 2010

I would like to know which is the product that is being used instead of googling and not knowing what and where. How much is the dosage for an adult? How often does it get taken? Does it have to be monitored with blood tests? Etc....

All my tests came back negative including for parasites. But I am dealing with thrush and candida in the esophagus mostly which sometimes effects my bowel movements. I have been doing very well on the scd diet, but I am not getting anywhere to a comfort zone with my thrush. So any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

> yeast! yuck, we have been fighting it too so badly. I am new to this board, but a lurker...a regular poster on the pecanbread group for kids. i have wondered also why so many of us are fighting yeast. one thing i discovered is that iodine defidiency can contribute to yeast/bacterial overgrowth and toxicity in general. i have started giving my SCD kids therapeutic doses of iodine (google iodine loading) and have seen absolutely fantastic results.How much is a therapeutic adult dose considered to be? What kind of supplement does it come inWhat kind of anti-yeast results have you seen with increased iodine?Does this also effect the performance of the thyroid? > iodine is more than just an anti-fungal/anti-bacterial. it resides in yoru thyroid and all ofy our blood passest hrough your thyroid every 17 minutes, killing off yucky buggers and also cleansing your blood from heavy metals. most americans, they say now, are severely deficient due to florine and bromine in our diets which compete with iodine for a place in our bodies (and are also toxic). I was looking up iodine the other day - and apparently there is quite a bitin eggs - and given how egg reliant SCDers are, that's one sure fire way,at least, that we are getting iodine. Between the cakes and the souffle bread and the hollandaise sauces, notto mention eggs...Mara

February 10, 2010

Andy,How are things going? Have you tried to use coconut oil or a tee tree oil lotion to see if that helps your skin? What about over the counter 'jock itch' type products, have you tried those? Sanjay cut back his s. boulardii and the eczema on his face and body has diminished. We think it was just too much for him -- die off. AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 monthsLDN 3 mgFrom: Andy Ram

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:41:29 AMSubject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

Amelia-

Sorry to hear about Sanjay. I hope he gets better. Has anything that you tried worked?

I didn't visit the forum but was following up the mails for a month. Because I didn't want to think about my illness, and just deal with it everyday.

I still have Prostatitis issues -- didn't take antibiotics.

I had fungal infection, which went away for after taking antibiotics but its back again now. Its on my genitals again. I don't know how to deal with it.

My colitis is under control, and I am able to eat more foods.

Why do so many of us have yeast issues? Is it an inherent issue with the diet that needs to be addressed? And how?

-Andy.

February 10, 2010

Andy,How are things going? Have you tried to use coconut oil or a tee tree oil lotion to see if that helps your skin? What about over the counter 'jock itch' type products, have you tried those? Sanjay cut back his s. boulardii and the eczema on his face and body has diminished. We think it was just too much for him -- die off. AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 monthsLDN 3 mgFrom: Andy Ram

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:41:29 AMSubject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

Amelia-

Sorry to hear about Sanjay. I hope he gets better. Has anything that you tried worked?

I didn't visit the forum but was following up the mails for a month. Because I didn't want to think about my illness, and just deal with it everyday.

I still have Prostatitis issues -- didn't take antibiotics.

I had fungal infection, which went away for after taking antibiotics but its back again now. Its on my genitals again. I don't know how to deal with it.

My colitis is under control, and I am able to eat more foods.

Why do so many of us have yeast issues? Is it an inherent issue with the diet that needs to be addressed? And how?

-Andy.

February 10, 2010

yeast! yuck, we have been fighting it too so badly. I am new to this board,

but a lurker...a regular poster on the pecanbread group for kids. i have

wondered also why so many of us are fighting yeast. one thing i discovered is

that iodine defidiency can contribute to yeast/bacterial overgrowth and toxicity

in general. i have started giving my SCD kids therapeutic doses of iodine

(google iodine loading) and have seen absolutely fantastic results. iodine is

more than just an anti-fungal/anti-bacterial. it resides in yoru thyroid and

all ofy our blood passest hrough your thyroid every 17 minutes, killing off

yucky buggers and also cleansing your blood from heavy metals. most americans,

they say now, are severely deficient due to florine and bromine in our diets

which compete with iodine for a place in our bodies (and are also toxic).

jessica

>

> Andy,

>

> How are things going? Have you tried to use coconut oil or a tee tree oil

lotion to see if that helps your skin? What about over the counter 'jock itch'

type products, have you tried those? Sanjay cut back his s. boulardii and the

eczema on his face and body has diminished. We think it was just too much for

him -- die off.

>

> Amelia

> Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months

> LDN 3 mg

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:41:29 AM

> Subject: Re: Fighting Possible Yeast

>

> Amelia-

>

> Sorry to hear about Sanjay. I hope he gets better. Has anything that you tried

worked?

>

> I didn't visit the forum but was following up the mails for a month. Because I

didn't want to think about my illness, and just deal with it everyday.

>

> I still have Prostatitis issues -- didn't take antibiotics.

>

> I had fungal infection, which went away for after taking antibiotics but its

back again now. Its on my genitals again. I don't know how to deal with it.

>

> My colitis is under control, and I am able to eat more foods.

>

> Why do so many of us have yeast issues? Is it an inherent issue with the diet

that needs to be addressed? And how?

>

> -Andy.

>

February 10, 2010