Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? Peace =) Alyssa 15 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 SCD June 2009 (restarted) Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? Peace =) Alyssa 15 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 SCD June 2009 (restarted) Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C switching off with the opposite reaction. I would suggest in order: 1) epsom bath 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if not, try original pepto bismal.) 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C switching off with the opposite reaction. I would suggest in order: 1) epsom bath 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if not, try original pepto bismal.) 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 > > > >> Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without >> having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the >> consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I >> didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid >> BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My >> lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I >> keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go >> though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe >> cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I >> have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs >> a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and > probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C > switching off with the opposite reaction. > > I would suggest in order: > > 1) epsom bath > 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if > not, try original pepto bismal.) > 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen > 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. 5) Also, if you have activated charcoal, that might help gather up and get rid of the toxins. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 > > > >> Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without >> having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the >> consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I >> didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid >> BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My >> lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I >> keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go >> though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe >> cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I >> have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs >> a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and > probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C > switching off with the opposite reaction. > > I would suggest in order: > > 1) epsom bath > 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if > not, try original pepto bismal.) > 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen > 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. 5) Also, if you have activated charcoal, that might help gather up and get rid of the toxins. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Alyssa, I'm so sorry to hear that you're body is still giving you problems! I've had a similar problem. I get into a cycle where I'm flaring so I drop down to the starter diet. Then when (I think) I start healing I end up being constipated for several days and then eventually having D problems after that. It happens every time. I don't know why it happens though. I was sort of guessing that the C was being caused by the fact that I was flaring (and not keeping anything in my body) for the previous few days and when I start to heal stuff is finally staying in me. However, it's not something that feels good. It stays in too long. I think I actually prefer the D since I have more experience dealing with it and I don't feel like there's a bunch of stuff just sitting and fermenting in my gut. Plus my abdomen is nice and flat before the C and then it gets progressively more puffy. Sucks to have both ends of the UC/CD problems, doesn't it? Stacey > > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Alyssa, I'm so sorry to hear that you're body is still giving you problems! I've had a similar problem. I get into a cycle where I'm flaring so I drop down to the starter diet. Then when (I think) I start healing I end up being constipated for several days and then eventually having D problems after that. It happens every time. I don't know why it happens though. I was sort of guessing that the C was being caused by the fact that I was flaring (and not keeping anything in my body) for the previous few days and when I start to heal stuff is finally staying in me. However, it's not something that feels good. It stays in too long. I think I actually prefer the D since I have more experience dealing with it and I don't feel like there's a bunch of stuff just sitting and fermenting in my gut. Plus my abdomen is nice and flat before the C and then it gets progressively more puffy. Sucks to have both ends of the UC/CD problems, doesn't it? Stacey > > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, andprobably die off, which is why you are having a bit of Cswitching off with the opposite reaction. Well, that could be good, right? The baddies dying and leaving my system?I would suggest in order: 1) epsom bathJust got out of one =) The cramping went on continuously for an hour (the worst it's EVER been) and then stopped. Then I got in a bath like you suggested, and I think I'll do an enema next.2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - ifnot, try original pepto bismal.) 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite.To add insult to injury, we had to throw out a mug full of delicious gelatinous broth because when this all started, I was drinking it with some raw egg yolks blended in. Needless to say, it was forgotten and has been upstairs at room temp for the past few hours growing bacteria. Actually brought me to tears having to throw it out, even though the hour of cramping didn't. Apparently broth has become a very important part of my life =)Thanks for your replies, Mara and Stacey! Hopefully I'll be able to report improved symptoms tomorrow! Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, andprobably die off, which is why you are having a bit of Cswitching off with the opposite reaction. Well, that could be good, right? The baddies dying and leaving my system?I would suggest in order: 1) epsom bathJust got out of one =) The cramping went on continuously for an hour (the worst it's EVER been) and then stopped. Then I got in a bath like you suggested, and I think I'll do an enema next.2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - ifnot, try original pepto bismal.) 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite.To add insult to injury, we had to throw out a mug full of delicious gelatinous broth because when this all started, I was drinking it with some raw egg yolks blended in. Needless to say, it was forgotten and has been upstairs at room temp for the past few hours growing bacteria. Actually brought me to tears having to throw it out, even though the hour of cramping didn't. Apparently broth has become a very important part of my life =)Thanks for your replies, Mara and Stacey! Hopefully I'll be able to report improved symptoms tomorrow! Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hi Alyssa, I feel for you. I have been through this many times, especially during the first few months of SCD. It feels horrible! Definitely take some activated charcoal. I can usually trace this kind of episode to having something fibrous to eat. Have you changed your diet or eaten a lot of veggies that weren't well cooked? The last time this happened to me, I had eaten tons of steamed veggies that were still crisp. You must be so drained. I really hope you feel better soon and are able to sleep restfully. Hugs, > > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hi Alyssa, I feel for you. I have been through this many times, especially during the first few months of SCD. It feels horrible! Definitely take some activated charcoal. I can usually trace this kind of episode to having something fibrous to eat. Have you changed your diet or eaten a lot of veggies that weren't well cooked? The last time this happened to me, I had eaten tons of steamed veggies that were still crisp. You must be so drained. I really hope you feel better soon and are able to sleep restfully. Hugs, > > Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I feel for you. I have been through this many times, especially during the first few months of SCD. It feels horrible!Definitely take some activated charcoal. I will have to get some!I can usually trace this kind of episode to having something fibrous to eat.Have you changed your diet or eaten a lot of veggies that weren't well cooked?Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything.The last time this happened to me, I had eaten tons of steamed veggies that werestill crisp.You must be so drained. I really hope you feel better soon and are able to sleep restfully.Yeah, thanks =) I don't know what I would do without the support I get here. Thank you everyone so much! Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I feel for you. I have been through this many times, especially during the first few months of SCD. It feels horrible!Definitely take some activated charcoal. I will have to get some!I can usually trace this kind of episode to having something fibrous to eat.Have you changed your diet or eaten a lot of veggies that weren't well cooked?Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything.The last time this happened to me, I had eaten tons of steamed veggies that werestill crisp.You must be so drained. I really hope you feel better soon and are able to sleep restfully.Yeah, thanks =) I don't know what I would do without the support I get here. Thank you everyone so much! Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 just don't take the activated charcoal with anything else, because it absorbs good and bad stuff equally. Like some medications if you need it. I don't know what it will or won't absorb but I don't chance it, I just take it with nothing else.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a dayTo: BTVC-SCD From: alcibiades@...Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:35:26 -0500Subject: Re: Help Me! Spastic Colon? > > > >> Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without >> having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the >> consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I >> didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid >> BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My >> lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I >> keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go >> though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe >> cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I >> have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs >> a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and > probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C > switching off with the opposite reaction. > > I would suggest in order: > > 1) epsom bath > 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if > not, try original pepto bismal.) > 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen > 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. 5) Also, if you have activated charcoal, that might help gather up and get rid of the toxins. Mara Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 just don't take the activated charcoal with anything else, because it absorbs good and bad stuff equally. Like some medications if you need it. I don't know what it will or won't absorb but I don't chance it, I just take it with nothing else.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a dayTo: BTVC-SCD From: alcibiades@...Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:35:26 -0500Subject: Re: Help Me! Spastic Colon? > > > >> Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without >> having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the >> consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I >> didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid >> BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My >> lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I >> keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go >> though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe >> cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I >> have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs >> a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > > You are definitely having some gut ecology changes, and > probably die off, which is why you are having a bit of C > switching off with the opposite reaction. > > I would suggest in order: > > 1) epsom bath > 2)take some vitamin e enema style while you are resting (this may settle and soothe the lower intestines - if > not, try original pepto bismal.) > 3) lying down with a heating pad on abdomen > 4) eating meat broths for inflammation when you get some appetite. 5) Also, if you have activated charcoal, that might help gather up and get rid of the toxins. Mara Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 At 09:34 PM 2/6/2010, you wrote: Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything. 1. Get some activated charcoal. 2. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue! 3. Take an epsom salt bath. 4. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 At 09:34 PM 2/6/2010, you wrote: Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything. 1. Get some activated charcoal. 2. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue! 3. Take an epsom salt bath. 4. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Alyssa, I'm so sorry. This is NO fun at all. I've had this for all these years wiht the IBS and never really known what causes it. Now on SCD it's generally much milder but I still have days with a loosening progression until the gut seems totally emptied. Which actually feels better (except my sore rear, and being exhausted). It's like the gut just insists on dumping everything in it. I always assumed in the bad old days that this was a food reaction. Now I'd wonder about die-off more, or simply have you made any dietary changes? I'd say keep the food simpler for a day or two (or more if it persists), I like the heating pad both on the tummy and behind my lower back in turn. I'm sure the Epsom Salts etc baths might help. Good luck! I hope it all calms down by tomorrow and whatever it was, is over. Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Alyssa, I'm so sorry. This is NO fun at all. I've had this for all these years wiht the IBS and never really known what causes it. Now on SCD it's generally much milder but I still have days with a loosening progression until the gut seems totally emptied. Which actually feels better (except my sore rear, and being exhausted). It's like the gut just insists on dumping everything in it. I always assumed in the bad old days that this was a food reaction. Now I'd wonder about die-off more, or simply have you made any dietary changes? I'd say keep the food simpler for a day or two (or more if it persists), I like the heating pad both on the tummy and behind my lower back in turn. I'm sure the Epsom Salts etc baths might help. Good luck! I hope it all calms down by tomorrow and whatever it was, is over. Okay, so for the past couple of weeks I've gone a day or two without > having a BM, then when I do go, I'll go like 5 times in a row, the > consistency moving from solid to D. This happened again today, where I > didn't go at all yesterday and then about an hour ago I had a solid > BM, then MP, then D, then D, then D, then D...you get the picture. My > lower abdomen has been cramping non-stop for almost an hour, and I > keep feeling like I need to have a BM. When I get in there to go > though, it feels like the lower end's version of dry heaves. THe > cramping and urge to go is horrible, but hardly anything comes out. I > have no idea what to do, this feels horrible! It's like my colon needs > a sedative or something. Anyone ever have this problem? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 But these WERE changes. PErhaps enough to cause a bit of a revolution down there. I'd back off and remember your Chinese herbs, as you are used to them, and then separate trying honey and FCLO. If it were me, I'd strongly suspect the honey. Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 But these WERE changes. PErhaps enough to cause a bit of a revolution down there. I'd back off and remember your Chinese herbs, as you are used to them, and then separate trying honey and FCLO. If it were me, I'd strongly suspect the honey. Haven't really changed my diet. I forgot to take my Chinese herbs today, but they're illegal anyways. And I had some manuka honey for the first time this morning. Maybe that caused major die off. And I took FCLO for the first time today, but it doesn't seem like that would hurt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 4. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue!Heh =) Well, I took the honey first, and then later when I was eating breakfast my mom told me to take my FCLO, and since she took it first to make it easier for me, I couldn't NOT take it. But I'll skip the honey today (since it's probably the culprit) and take my FCLO and see what happens. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 4. What have we told you about making two changes or additions to your diet at a time? You don't know which change might be the issue!Heh =) Well, I took the honey first, and then later when I was eating breakfast my mom told me to take my FCLO, and since she took it first to make it easier for me, I couldn't NOT take it. But I'll skip the honey today (since it's probably the culprit) and take my FCLO and see what happens. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 If it were me, I'd strongly suspect the honey.Ditto, since apparently it's VERY antibacterial. I'll skip it today and keep on with the FCLO so that they're separated. I just can't seem to learn to do things one at a time =) Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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