Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I've been checking out one of my mother's books called " Eating Away Arthritis " by Lauri M. Aesoph, N.D. and it goes into detail about food rotation and families, etc. It covers all the legal foods (from what I can tell) and only a few illegals. Whole foods--doesn't go into processed, pre-packaged, fast food. Interesting if you are not at all familiar with food combining. I noticed my worst triggers come from the grass family lol. I don't think any are legal. FYI, FWIW Debbie houston cd > >> Maybe this site could help: >> >> http://www.drkatherine.info/environmental_medicine/Food_Food_Families.htm > > > Thanks Holly!!! > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hey Alyssa, From my Green Smoothie Revolution Book: " You can rotate your greens in any way that is convenient to you. Some people put a different type of green in their smoothie every day. Others put a variety of greens in each smoothie. I recommend rotating a minimum of seven varieties of greens, one for each day of the week. Try to get as much variety as possible. The larger the assortment of greens you consume, the broader the spectrum of vital nutrients your body receives. " She also says (and part of this I know you already know), " Green leaves are typically the most nutritious part of the plant, and creatures naturally want to eat them. Plants carry a trace of alkaloids in their leaves to ensure that animals will move on to eat other green plants and will not exterminate any one species. Although alkaloids are poisonous in large quantities, in small quantities they cannot hurt you, and even strengthen the immune system. The science of homeopathy is based on this principle. however, if you keep consuming kale, or spinach, or any other single green for many weeks without rotation, eventually the same type of alkaloids can accumulate in your body and cause unwanted symptoms of poisoning. Most greens contain different alkaloids, which is why, by rotating the variety of greens in our smoothies, we can avoid poisoning and strengthen our immunity. " So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday for weeks I think you'll be just fine. Stacey > > I know this doesn't pertain specifically to SCD, but for anyone who > does green smoothies: how do you rotate your greens? I know your > supposed to rotate according to family, but I can't find a good list > of the different green families. Also, it's hard to find greens that > are as yummy as spinach, chard, and beet greens, and whaddya know, > they're all in the same family!! I've been trying to reduce my toxic > load, so I want to try to rotate my greens more. Any tips? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hey Alyssa, From my Green Smoothie Revolution Book: " You can rotate your greens in any way that is convenient to you. Some people put a different type of green in their smoothie every day. Others put a variety of greens in each smoothie. I recommend rotating a minimum of seven varieties of greens, one for each day of the week. Try to get as much variety as possible. The larger the assortment of greens you consume, the broader the spectrum of vital nutrients your body receives. " She also says (and part of this I know you already know), " Green leaves are typically the most nutritious part of the plant, and creatures naturally want to eat them. Plants carry a trace of alkaloids in their leaves to ensure that animals will move on to eat other green plants and will not exterminate any one species. Although alkaloids are poisonous in large quantities, in small quantities they cannot hurt you, and even strengthen the immune system. The science of homeopathy is based on this principle. however, if you keep consuming kale, or spinach, or any other single green for many weeks without rotation, eventually the same type of alkaloids can accumulate in your body and cause unwanted symptoms of poisoning. Most greens contain different alkaloids, which is why, by rotating the variety of greens in our smoothies, we can avoid poisoning and strengthen our immunity. " So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday for weeks I think you'll be just fine. Stacey > > I know this doesn't pertain specifically to SCD, but for anyone who > does green smoothies: how do you rotate your greens? I know your > supposed to rotate according to family, but I can't find a good list > of the different green families. Also, it's hard to find greens that > are as yummy as spinach, chard, and beet greens, and whaddya know, > they're all in the same family!! I've been trying to reduce my toxic > load, so I want to try to rotate my greens more. Any tips? > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday for weeks I think you'll be just fine.Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better though =) Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday for weeks I think you'll be just fine.Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better though =) Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I do, but at the moment I'm juice fasting to control a flare. Usually my favorites are a green (kale, spinach, chard etc), banana, pineapple and strawberry. I also like green, banana, mango and a bunch of other berries like raspberry, blackberry & strawberry. Occasionally if I'm in the mood for a more dessert type flavor I'll do one with banana (I pretty much use it as a base in most of my smoothies, plus it's filling!), swiss chard (or spinach but the chard is sweeter), 2 dates (or a little honey), and cinnamon. I'll usually add a small bunch of pecans or pecan butter to make it extra tasty and maybe a little coconut oil if I feel like it. Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately. Stacey > > > So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long > > as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday > > for weeks I think you'll be just fine. > > > Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My > three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's > harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better > though =) > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I do, but at the moment I'm juice fasting to control a flare. Usually my favorites are a green (kale, spinach, chard etc), banana, pineapple and strawberry. I also like green, banana, mango and a bunch of other berries like raspberry, blackberry & strawberry. Occasionally if I'm in the mood for a more dessert type flavor I'll do one with banana (I pretty much use it as a base in most of my smoothies, plus it's filling!), swiss chard (or spinach but the chard is sweeter), 2 dates (or a little honey), and cinnamon. I'll usually add a small bunch of pecans or pecan butter to make it extra tasty and maybe a little coconut oil if I feel like it. Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately. Stacey > > > So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long > > as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday > > for weeks I think you'll be just fine. > > > Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My > three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's > harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better > though =) > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately.Not really. I just know that all the greens in one family have the same type of alkaloid, so if you find out which greens are in which family then you can find out what alkaloid they have. For instance, spinach, chard, and beet greens are all in the same family (bummer) so they all have oxalic acid. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately.Not really. I just know that all the greens in one family have the same type of alkaloid, so if you find out which greens are in which family then you can find out what alkaloid they have. For instance, spinach, chard, and beet greens are all in the same family (bummer) so they all have oxalic acid. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I like kiwis in smoothies, too. And I know that those are featured in some of the smoothy recipes in the Green smoothy book. This week I made a savory smoothy - a recipe I used to make from time to time pre-SCD. Tomato juice diluted, whole avocado, cilantro, jalapeno, yogurt. (I used to also add tomatillos to them, but didn't have any on hand.) I had a liquid lunch and then drank the rest for snack in the afternoon. Mara > I do, but at the moment I'm juice fasting to control a flare. Usually my favorites are a green (kale, spinach, chard etc), banana, pineapple and strawberry. I also like green, banana, mango and a bunch of other berries like raspberry, blackberry & strawberry. Occasionally if I'm in the mood for a more dessert type flavor I'll do one with banana (I pretty much use it as a base in most of my smoothies, plus it's filling!), swiss chard (or spinach but the chard is sweeter), 2 dates (or a little honey), and cinnamon. I'll usually add a small bunch of pecans or pecan butter to make it extra tasty and maybe a little coconut oil if I feel like it. > > Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately. > Stacey > > >> >>> So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long >>> as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday >>> for weeks I think you'll be just fine. >> >> >> Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My >> three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's >> harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better >> though =) >> >> Peace =) >> Alyssa 15 yo >> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 >> SCD June 2009 (restarted) >> Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I like kiwis in smoothies, too. And I know that those are featured in some of the smoothy recipes in the Green smoothy book. This week I made a savory smoothy - a recipe I used to make from time to time pre-SCD. Tomato juice diluted, whole avocado, cilantro, jalapeno, yogurt. (I used to also add tomatillos to them, but didn't have any on hand.) I had a liquid lunch and then drank the rest for snack in the afternoon. Mara > I do, but at the moment I'm juice fasting to control a flare. Usually my favorites are a green (kale, spinach, chard etc), banana, pineapple and strawberry. I also like green, banana, mango and a bunch of other berries like raspberry, blackberry & strawberry. Occasionally if I'm in the mood for a more dessert type flavor I'll do one with banana (I pretty much use it as a base in most of my smoothies, plus it's filling!), swiss chard (or spinach but the chard is sweeter), 2 dates (or a little honey), and cinnamon. I'll usually add a small bunch of pecans or pecan butter to make it extra tasty and maybe a little coconut oil if I feel like it. > > Is there a particular place online that you go to find out which greens have which alkaloids? I know that weeds are recommended in a lot of green smoothie sites/books because of the nutrients they provide but I'm not sure they're SCD legal unfortunately. > Stacey > > >> >>> So she doesn't suggest a specific time line of rotation but as long >>> as you have a good variety and aren't eating the same green everyday >>> for weeks I think you'll be just fine. >> >> >> Thanks Stacey! Do you do green smoothies? What greens do you like? My >> three favorite greens all have the same type of alkaloid, so it's >> harder for me to make myself rotate. Heh =) I will try to do better >> though =) >> >> Peace =) >> Alyssa 15 yo >> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 >> SCD June 2009 (restarted) >> Chinese Herbs (not legal but helping!) >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Alyssa wrote:"I just know that all the greens in one family have the same type of alkaloid, so if you find out which greens are in which family then you can find out what alkaloid they have. For instance, spinach, chard, and beet greens are all in the same family (bummer) so they all have oxalic acid."------When I was researching green smoothies and green smoothie recipes, I remember learning that buckwheat greens contain a chemical called "fagopyrin" that can cause toxic reactions if eaten in sufficient quantity. I don't actually know if the greens of the buckwheat plant would be legal or illegal for SCD. I never found out because the itchy skin rash that can occur pretty much quieted my curiosity about it. However, if you're interested in trying a new green but don't know its nutrient profile, just doing an internet search can be tremendously helpful. Best, Nina in MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Alyssa wrote:"I just know that all the greens in one family have the same type of alkaloid, so if you find out which greens are in which family then you can find out what alkaloid they have. For instance, spinach, chard, and beet greens are all in the same family (bummer) so they all have oxalic acid."------When I was researching green smoothies and green smoothie recipes, I remember learning that buckwheat greens contain a chemical called "fagopyrin" that can cause toxic reactions if eaten in sufficient quantity. I don't actually know if the greens of the buckwheat plant would be legal or illegal for SCD. I never found out because the itchy skin rash that can occur pretty much quieted my curiosity about it. However, if you're interested in trying a new green but don't know its nutrient profile, just doing an internet search can be tremendously helpful. Best, Nina in MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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