Re: SCD, Allergy and Inflammation

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy..

> I suffer from prostatitis, which showed up 2 weeks after I started on SCD. The

symptoms are groin pain, and frequent urination. Someone pointed out that, it is

possible that I might be reacting to changes to SCD food. I should mention that

I was always a vegetarian till started SCD, so it was a huge change. I haven't

done an allergy test, so I don't know how to point that out.

So sorry you are experiencing this!

Was it a clinical diagnosis of prostatitis?

> For the starters, I plan to eliminate one by one of what I eat in the first

two weeks to see and see if my symptoms improve. My questions are:

>

> 0. Any suggestions

Have you done the intro diet at all?

Are you using dairy yogurt or probiotics?

Dairy in general?

For me, this caused insane urinary tract/bladder issues for quite a while.

And the probiotics just gave me die off hell translating into issues in that

region. Obviously, I am a female.. LOL.

Dairy in general still can upset my sinuses- so I only do yogurt and ghee...

Today I can have other dairy here and there with no issue.

> 1. Will eliminating one food for one week good enough to see the effects?

No, I would strongly suggest you do the introductory diet and THEN add new foods

one by one.

> 2. I want to start with the yogurt -- no yogurt for one week. As a sub, I plan

to take SCD Acidophilus one tablet per day. Can that take care of probiotic

needs?

Lay off of the probiotics. Both supplement and yogurt. Give your system a rest

as die off occurs.

> 3. Also, I get a lot of my calories from yogurt, and I will lose out on these

calories, so any suggestions on what to eat -- one more fish, may be? PS: I am

on Stage-4 of Pecanbread now.

How about avocados?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy..

> I suffer from prostatitis, which showed up 2 weeks after I started on SCD. The

symptoms are groin pain, and frequent urination. Someone pointed out that, it is

possible that I might be reacting to changes to SCD food. I should mention that

I was always a vegetarian till started SCD, so it was a huge change. I haven't

done an allergy test, so I don't know how to point that out.

So sorry you are experiencing this!

Was it a clinical diagnosis of prostatitis?

> For the starters, I plan to eliminate one by one of what I eat in the first

two weeks to see and see if my symptoms improve. My questions are:

>

> 0. Any suggestions

Have you done the intro diet at all?

Are you using dairy yogurt or probiotics?

Dairy in general?

For me, this caused insane urinary tract/bladder issues for quite a while.

And the probiotics just gave me die off hell translating into issues in that

region. Obviously, I am a female.. LOL.

Dairy in general still can upset my sinuses- so I only do yogurt and ghee...

Today I can have other dairy here and there with no issue.

> 1. Will eliminating one food for one week good enough to see the effects?

No, I would strongly suggest you do the introductory diet and THEN add new foods

one by one.

> 2. I want to start with the yogurt -- no yogurt for one week. As a sub, I plan

to take SCD Acidophilus one tablet per day. Can that take care of probiotic

needs?

Lay off of the probiotics. Both supplement and yogurt. Give your system a rest

as die off occurs.

> 3. Also, I get a lot of my calories from yogurt, and I will lose out on these

calories, so any suggestions on what to eat -- one more fish, may be? PS: I am

on Stage-4 of Pecanbread now.

How about avocados?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Jodi-

Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods

one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in going

back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created this

problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5 months

is prostatitis and is still continuing.

Sucks.

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

Jodi-

Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods

one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in going

back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created this

problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5 months

is prostatitis and is still continuing.

Sucks.

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

Andy,

I would cut out the probiotics and yogurt and see if you feel better.

Sometimes going back to intro can help isolate an on-going issue that is causing

such discomfort.

I was not aware of your whole history with the diet, thanks for explaining it to

me!

And yeah, some people experience die-off in those regions unfortunately. I have

read about it a couple of times now.

BTW- if it was just a clinical diagnosis (regular prostate exam) and it persists

you may want to look into it further with a urologist.

Jodi

>

>

> Jodi-

>

> Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

>

> I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods

one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

>

> My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in

going back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created

this problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

>

> It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5

months is prostatitis and is still continuing.

>

> Sucks.

>

> Thanks,

> Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

Andy,

I would cut out the probiotics and yogurt and see if you feel better.

Sometimes going back to intro can help isolate an on-going issue that is causing

such discomfort.

I was not aware of your whole history with the diet, thanks for explaining it to

me!

And yeah, some people experience die-off in those regions unfortunately. I have

read about it a couple of times now.

BTW- if it was just a clinical diagnosis (regular prostate exam) and it persists

you may want to look into it further with a urologist.

Jodi

>

>

> Jodi-

>

> Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

>

> I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods

one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

>

> My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in

going back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created

this problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

>

> It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5

months is prostatitis and is still continuing.

>

> Sucks.

>

> Thanks,

> Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

Andy,I am going out on a limb here, but it sounds like you are pretty miserable. I read a book by Dr. Lee regarding the hormone progesterone. Yeah, I know, most people think that it is a female hormone, but in actuality, both men and woman have the same hormones, just in varying quantities. Apparently, the prostate and the uterus are basically the same embryonic tissue that differentiates during the development of the baby. Having said that, testosterone, estrogen and progesterone need to be balanced for this organ to be healthy -- in both men and women. If you are under stress, progesterone can be taken and converted to help with the stress response (to basically make adrenaline, but can be converted to any of the adrenal steroids and corticosterone).

This leaves the delicate balance out of kilter. You can also receive what is called phyto and xeno estrogens from foods and petroleum products (like in bath soap, lotions, cologne, air fresheners, new carpet, feed lot meats and dairy, etc.). Men also have decreased levels of progesterone and testosterone as they age. Because of this, most of us are running around with more estrogen than we really should have and less of the other sex hormones than we should have (and yes UC/Crohns definitely counts as stress!). Progesterone is also a recursor to testosterone -- it can be converted into testosterone. Just as the body can convert progesterone into adrenal steroids if needed, it can also convert it into testosterone if needed. I recommend that you get your sex hormones levels and adrenal levels checked by saliva testing. You might have several low levels affecting your health.If you want to give a

trial to see if you can get some relief, however, there is a product called Pro-Gest made by Emerita. You can get it in a box of 48 small sachets (depending where you buy, it can be as little as $15 or as much as $25 per box). Each sachet holds a hypoallergenic cream containing 20mg USP Progesterone. It does not require a prescription. You only need about 1/2 that little sachet a day. Evening is best. Use on your inner arms, chest, and inner thighs. It is a very small amount, so it will absorb easily. This would provide your body with progesterone which can also convert to testosterone as the body needs. It might help your prostate issues. I told my mother the same thing because my father was having prostate problems. My dad tried it and later announced that he could now 'pee like a race horse!' ; )Again, I am no doctor, and you should have your levels checked.

AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 20 monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 12:16:33 AMSubject: Re: SCD, Allergy and Inflammation

Jodi-

Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in going back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created this problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5 months is prostatitis and is still continuing.

Sucks.

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

Andy,I am going out on a limb here, but it sounds like you are pretty miserable. I read a book by Dr. Lee regarding the hormone progesterone. Yeah, I know, most people think that it is a female hormone, but in actuality, both men and woman have the same hormones, just in varying quantities. Apparently, the prostate and the uterus are basically the same embryonic tissue that differentiates during the development of the baby. Having said that, testosterone, estrogen and progesterone need to be balanced for this organ to be healthy -- in both men and women. If you are under stress, progesterone can be taken and converted to help with the stress response (to basically make adrenaline, but can be converted to any of the adrenal steroids and corticosterone).

This leaves the delicate balance out of kilter. You can also receive what is called phyto and xeno estrogens from foods and petroleum products (like in bath soap, lotions, cologne, air fresheners, new carpet, feed lot meats and dairy, etc.). Men also have decreased levels of progesterone and testosterone as they age. Because of this, most of us are running around with more estrogen than we really should have and less of the other sex hormones than we should have (and yes UC/Crohns definitely counts as stress!). Progesterone is also a recursor to testosterone -- it can be converted into testosterone. Just as the body can convert progesterone into adrenal steroids if needed, it can also convert it into testosterone if needed. I recommend that you get your sex hormones levels and adrenal levels checked by saliva testing. You might have several low levels affecting your health.If you want to give a

trial to see if you can get some relief, however, there is a product called Pro-Gest made by Emerita. You can get it in a box of 48 small sachets (depending where you buy, it can be as little as $15 or as much as $25 per box). Each sachet holds a hypoallergenic cream containing 20mg USP Progesterone. It does not require a prescription. You only need about 1/2 that little sachet a day. Evening is best. Use on your inner arms, chest, and inner thighs. It is a very small amount, so it will absorb easily. This would provide your body with progesterone which can also convert to testosterone as the body needs. It might help your prostate issues. I told my mother the same thing because my father was having prostate problems. My dad tried it and later announced that he could now 'pee like a race horse!' ; )Again, I am no doctor, and you should have your levels checked.

AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 20 monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 12:16:33 AMSubject: Re: SCD, Allergy and Inflammation

Jodi-

Yes, it is clinical diagnosis.

I started with the Intro diet mid Nov for a week, and then added foods one-by-one going in Pecanbread stages. My colitis symptoms have improved.

My prostatitis started soon after the Intro diet. So, what's the point in going back to Intro? I am wondering if anything in the Intro diet that created this problem: Yogurt? Chicken? Fish?

It doesn't feel like die-off: I am on SCD for 3 months now, of which 2.5 months is prostatitis and is still continuing.

Sucks.

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

Jodi-

Yes it is clinical diagnosis from a urologist too.

Starting with Intro diet is a good idea.

I am starting off with cutting out the yogurt for a week -- do you think that

would suffice? I am worried about my calories and nutrition since I have been

consuming tons of it. But should be ok for a few days?

Do people tolerate goat milk yogurt better?

Amelia-

Thanks for the note. I'll contact you offline about my upcoming India trip.

My primary care thinks I am looking for zebras while he wants to treat horses. I

don't think I'd be able to sell the adrenal gland issue to him. He wants to try

out 'common' remedies such as Cipro for prostatitis before moving forward.

Thanks guys,

-Andy.

[Guest guest]

Jodi-

Yes it is clinical diagnosis from a urologist too.

Starting with Intro diet is a good idea.

I am starting off with cutting out the yogurt for a week -- do you think that

would suffice? I am worried about my calories and nutrition since I have been

consuming tons of it. But should be ok for a few days?

Do people tolerate goat milk yogurt better?

Amelia-

Thanks for the note. I'll contact you offline about my upcoming India trip.

My primary care thinks I am looking for zebras while he wants to treat horses. I

don't think I'd be able to sell the adrenal gland issue to him. He wants to try

out 'common' remedies such as Cipro for prostatitis before moving forward.

Thanks guys,

-Andy.