Re: Digestive enzymes while on anti-candida SCD

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Yum! You are Spartan, aren't you?

Thanks and smdsmom! I'll probably just make it with water to

make sure i'll be able to tolerate it....how tasty!

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Yum! You are Spartan, aren't you?

Thanks and smdsmom! I'll probably just make it with water to

make sure i'll be able to tolerate it....how tasty!

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Hi Kim,

I am interested in what symptoms you have with a malfunctioning upper GI. I have continually complained to my doctor of upper abdominal aches. It feels like it's right under the breast bone. Pressure into the chest especially when I lay on my back. It often feels ill up high. Also pain in my liver and over to the left. Pancreas?? I have extremely low levels of HCL and pancreatic enzymes. I've been on SCD now for a week and today I finally checked the supplements I'm taking for my adrenal fatigue. They contain inulin. Big sigh. Now I don't know what to do as I've just spent a couple hundred dollars. I feel like I do need extra support because of my severe fatigue most of the time.

Darlene

SCD 7 days

From: Kim Mumbower kkmumbower@...

On my healing journey I’ve had to do without most supplements. Between a malfunctioning digestive and nervous system, an oversensitive immune system, and having Interstitial Cystitis (bladder lining inflammation) taking a supplement is a constant challenge. It is frustrating when everyone tells you to try this or that to fix that problem but your body reacts badly and makes things a lot worse [sigh].

The most important thing I learned when I started SCD was that supplements caused problems more often than foods. As a result, I went several months without using any supplements, then started adding one at a time. If I started getting symptoms I’d stop all supplements for a few weeks, then pick the most important one and work with just that one for a while, trying different dosages and frequency of use, trying a different mode of use (mixing in water instead of swallowing a capsule), trying different brands, trying to take it at different times of day. Sometimes I could work with my body to take that supplement, most of the time I could not.

Digestive enzymes happen to be one of the most challenging supplements for me. Still can’t take them. I could use them as I have a malfunctioning upper GI and low levels of bile and pancreatic enzymes but my immune system responds every time. So, for now, I stick to easy-to-digest foods and work with my dysfunctional upper GI.

You mention burning when you urinate. This is a common sign of having Interstitial Cystitis. Supplements and medications tend to cause more problems than foods in this regard. It’s also a common symptom of having a bladder or kidney infection, however, so you may need to have a sample cultured to ensure you aren’t dealing with an infection.

In the meantime, I suggest you stop all supplements for a few weeks and just work on foods, and see how your body does. Then pick one supplement that seems the most critical to you and work with just that one for a few weeks. It may take some experimenting for you to figure out if it helps or causes problems, and if you need to vary the dose or try a different brand.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

Neurological deterioration 3+ years

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Hi Kim,

I am interested in what symptoms you have with a malfunctioning upper GI. I have continually complained to my doctor of upper abdominal aches. It feels like it's right under the breast bone. Pressure into the chest especially when I lay on my back. It often feels ill up high. Also pain in my liver and over to the left. Pancreas?? I have extremely low levels of HCL and pancreatic enzymes. I've been on SCD now for a week and today I finally checked the supplements I'm taking for my adrenal fatigue. They contain inulin. Big sigh. Now I don't know what to do as I've just spent a couple hundred dollars. I feel like I do need extra support because of my severe fatigue most of the time.

Darlene

SCD 7 days

From: Kim Mumbower kkmumbower@...

On my healing journey I’ve had to do without most supplements. Between a malfunctioning digestive and nervous system, an oversensitive immune system, and having Interstitial Cystitis (bladder lining inflammation) taking a supplement is a constant challenge. It is frustrating when everyone tells you to try this or that to fix that problem but your body reacts badly and makes things a lot worse [sigh].

The most important thing I learned when I started SCD was that supplements caused problems more often than foods. As a result, I went several months without using any supplements, then started adding one at a time. If I started getting symptoms I’d stop all supplements for a few weeks, then pick the most important one and work with just that one for a while, trying different dosages and frequency of use, trying a different mode of use (mixing in water instead of swallowing a capsule), trying different brands, trying to take it at different times of day. Sometimes I could work with my body to take that supplement, most of the time I could not.

Digestive enzymes happen to be one of the most challenging supplements for me. Still can’t take them. I could use them as I have a malfunctioning upper GI and low levels of bile and pancreatic enzymes but my immune system responds every time. So, for now, I stick to easy-to-digest foods and work with my dysfunctional upper GI.

You mention burning when you urinate. This is a common sign of having Interstitial Cystitis. Supplements and medications tend to cause more problems than foods in this regard. It’s also a common symptom of having a bladder or kidney infection, however, so you may need to have a sample cultured to ensure you aren’t dealing with an infection.

In the meantime, I suggest you stop all supplements for a few weeks and just work on foods, and see how your body does. Then pick one supplement that seems the most critical to you and work with just that one for a few weeks. It may take some experimenting for you to figure out if it helps or causes problems, and if you need to vary the dose or try a different brand.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

Neurological deterioration 3+ years

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Sorry I have been a bit busy. Thought I had a flight today but looks

like I am snowed in!

Any updates as to what you did?

you feeling better at all?

Jodi

> Should i try the 4 hour cooked carrots again as listed on the Intro while

fighting candida or should i just stick to the broccoli & asparagus i know i can

tolerate? The carrots agreed with me in the beginning of the diet but the last

time i was eating them i wasn't cooking them 4 hours and i was using the

mini-carrots unpeeled so that may have been part of it. I'm going to try jello

again although i don't tolerate anything to mix it with - maybe i could make it

with water and a tiny bit of honey. I did that during my colonoscopy prep and

from what i could tell it was ok. Thanks again!

>

>

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Sorry I have been a bit busy. Thought I had a flight today but looks

like I am snowed in!

Any updates as to what you did?

you feeling better at all?

Jodi

> Should i try the 4 hour cooked carrots again as listed on the Intro while

fighting candida or should i just stick to the broccoli & asparagus i know i can

tolerate? The carrots agreed with me in the beginning of the diet but the last

time i was eating them i wasn't cooking them 4 hours and i was using the

mini-carrots unpeeled so that may have been part of it. I'm going to try jello

again although i don't tolerate anything to mix it with - maybe i could make it

with water and a tiny bit of honey. I did that during my colonoscopy prep and

from what i could tell it was ok. Thanks again!

>

>

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hi darlene-

do you have a hiatal hernia possibly? it's statistically more common than

sphincter of oddi dysfunction, i think

i have one

andrea

celiac/intolerances

scd 2 months

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hi darlene-

do you have a hiatal hernia possibly? it's statistically more common than

sphincter of oddi dysfunction, i think

i have one

andrea

celiac/intolerances

scd 2 months

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hi ,

I've suspected for a while that I did. That was especially during the time that it was impossible to lie on my back due to the pressure up high and into my chest. My doctor suggested raising my bed a few inches, no food or drink before bed, a big glass of water in the morning and 10 heel drops to pull my stomach down. That helped. Even now there is a very specific line of pressure right under my rib cage in my solar plexus. So maybe I should still be following that protocol. What is "sphincter of oddi dysfunction"?

Darlene

Intestinal Dysbiosis

SCD 8 days

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:50:35 PMSubject: Re: Digestive enzymes while on anti-candida SCD

hi darlene- do you have a hiatal hernia possibly? it's statistically more common than sphincter of oddi dysfunction, i thinki have oneandreaceliac/intolerancesscd 2 months

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hi ,

I've suspected for a while that I did. That was especially during the time that it was impossible to lie on my back due to the pressure up high and into my chest. My doctor suggested raising my bed a few inches, no food or drink before bed, a big glass of water in the morning and 10 heel drops to pull my stomach down. That helped. Even now there is a very specific line of pressure right under my rib cage in my solar plexus. So maybe I should still be following that protocol. What is "sphincter of oddi dysfunction"?

Darlene

Intestinal Dysbiosis

SCD 8 days

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:50:35 PMSubject: Re: Digestive enzymes while on anti-candida SCD

hi darlene- do you have a hiatal hernia possibly? it's statistically more common than sphincter of oddi dysfunction, i thinki have oneandreaceliac/intolerancesscd 2 months

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hi darlene

i just mentioned s. of o. dysfunction cause you were asking kim about her

stomach pain and i believe that is what she has (i could be wrong)

yes i would say to still follow his advice about hiatal hernia, and also there

is a book " hiatal hernia syndrome " by baroody that helped me learn how to move

the stomach back down. also if you can find someone who does massage/bodywork

and is familiar with myofascial release and cranio-sacral therapy they can work

to release the stomach to move back down. of course when i react to foods or

have too much die off my hernia comes back but is not as bad as it was at first.

the entire digestive system needs to heal at once, so it's just one piece of the

puzzle. also chirporactors sometimes know how to do the myopractic maneuver to

move the stomach back down but not all of them do and it is usually more harsh

that myofascial release

andrea

scd 2 months

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hi darlene

i just mentioned s. of o. dysfunction cause you were asking kim about her

stomach pain and i believe that is what she has (i could be wrong)

yes i would say to still follow his advice about hiatal hernia, and also there

is a book " hiatal hernia syndrome " by baroody that helped me learn how to move

the stomach back down. also if you can find someone who does massage/bodywork

and is familiar with myofascial release and cranio-sacral therapy they can work

to release the stomach to move back down. of course when i react to foods or

have too much die off my hernia comes back but is not as bad as it was at first.

the entire digestive system needs to heal at once, so it's just one piece of the

puzzle. also chirporactors sometimes know how to do the myopractic maneuver to

move the stomach back down but not all of them do and it is usually more harsh

that myofascial release

andrea

scd 2 months

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, I've had chiropractors move it down for me. But your email is a good reminder for me to keep doing my at-home protocol. The weight of the water in my stomach in the morning and dropping down on my heels seems to work after a few days. Also your point about the entire digestive system needing to heal at once is a good one.I had stopped the procedure for the hiatal hernia when I had so many other intestinal symptoms that I was stuck in. Now with SCD I will re-introduce it. It must be a hiatal hernia as it is a constant, very specific location of pressure and discomfort right at the top of my solar plexus under the ribs and extends up into my chest. I may also check out that book. Thanks for this valuable information. DarleneIntestinal DysbiosisSCD 9 days

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:04:59 AMSubject: Re: Digestive enzymes while on anti-candida SCD

hi darlenei just mentioned s. of o. dysfunction cause you were asking kim about her stomach pain and i believe that is what she has (i could be wrong)yes i would say to still follow his advice about hiatal hernia, and also there is a book "hiatal hernia syndrome" by baroody that helped me learn how to move the stomach back down. also if you can find someone who does massage/bodywork and is familiar with myofascial release and cranio-sacral therapy they can work to release the stomach to move back down. of course when i react to foods or have too much die off my hernia comes back but is not as bad as it was at first. the entire digestive system needs to heal at once, so it's just one piece of the puzzle. also chirporactors sometimes know how to do the myopractic maneuver to move the stomach back down but not all of them do and it is usually more harsh that myofascial release:)andreascd 2

months

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,

Yes, I've had chiropractors move it down for me. But your email is a good reminder for me to keep doing my at-home protocol. The weight of the water in my stomach in the morning and dropping down on my heels seems to work after a few days. Also your point about the entire digestive system needing to heal at once is a good one.I had stopped the procedure for the hiatal hernia when I had so many other intestinal symptoms that I was stuck in. Now with SCD I will re-introduce it. It must be a hiatal hernia as it is a constant, very specific location of pressure and discomfort right at the top of my solar plexus under the ribs and extends up into my chest. I may also check out that book. Thanks for this valuable information. DarleneIntestinal DysbiosisSCD 9 days

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:04:59 AMSubject: Re: Digestive enzymes while on anti-candida SCD

hi darlenei just mentioned s. of o. dysfunction cause you were asking kim about her stomach pain and i believe that is what she has (i could be wrong)yes i would say to still follow his advice about hiatal hernia, and also there is a book "hiatal hernia syndrome" by baroody that helped me learn how to move the stomach back down. also if you can find someone who does massage/bodywork and is familiar with myofascial release and cranio-sacral therapy they can work to release the stomach to move back down. of course when i react to foods or have too much die off my hernia comes back but is not as bad as it was at first. the entire digestive system needs to heal at once, so it's just one piece of the puzzle. also chirporactors sometimes know how to do the myopractic maneuver to move the stomach back down but not all of them do and it is usually more harsh that myofascial release:)andreascd 2

months

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