Konnyaku Flour (Glucomannan)

[Guest guest]

Hey all,

Misty and I (probably some others?) are on another board for SCD and someone

asked about the legality of this noodle product made from Konnyaku Flour

(Glucomannan) found at miraclenoodles.com.

Misty and I both think it's illegal. I haven't responded yet because someone

else posted this:

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a polysaccride it is

undigestable by our bodies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

http://www.konjacfoods.com/

I would say they are grey zone you could try them if your currently experiencing

good health on the SCD diet but I wouldn't mess around if you weren't feeling

good yet. The reason i say this is from my research I found that the noodles are

made of soluble fiber which isn't SCD illegal. There are not starches and you

won't actually digest the noodles, because they are soluble fiber there will be

some fermentation in the large intestine which may cause some gas problems if

you eat to much. Also because you would be taking in a large amount of fiber at

one time it will probably speed the transit time of your digestion which

shouldnt be a problem if your constipatied or normal but if your experiecing

lose stools it would not be good to eat the noodles. If your feeling good and

adventurous go for it and let us know how it goes. Everyone's body is different

so to label a food illegal that may be enjoyable to many people tryint to live a

SCD lifestyle is wrong in my book. For more reading check out the below links

for where i got my info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber

http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/nutrition/factsheets/fiber.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konnyaku "

So anyway, the reason I'm making this post is that it seems wrong to me. It

seems like it's still an illegal product but I'm not exactly sure why. Could

you help explain why it's illegal so I can pass that information along?

Thanks

Stacey

[Guest guest]

Hey all,

Misty and I (probably some others?) are on another board for SCD and someone

asked about the legality of this noodle product made from Konnyaku Flour

(Glucomannan) found at miraclenoodles.com.

Misty and I both think it's illegal. I haven't responded yet because someone

else posted this:

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a polysaccride it is

undigestable by our bodies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

http://www.konjacfoods.com/

I would say they are grey zone you could try them if your currently experiencing

good health on the SCD diet but I wouldn't mess around if you weren't feeling

good yet. The reason i say this is from my research I found that the noodles are

made of soluble fiber which isn't SCD illegal. There are not starches and you

won't actually digest the noodles, because they are soluble fiber there will be

some fermentation in the large intestine which may cause some gas problems if

you eat to much. Also because you would be taking in a large amount of fiber at

one time it will probably speed the transit time of your digestion which

shouldnt be a problem if your constipatied or normal but if your experiecing

lose stools it would not be good to eat the noodles. If your feeling good and

adventurous go for it and let us know how it goes. Everyone's body is different

so to label a food illegal that may be enjoyable to many people tryint to live a

SCD lifestyle is wrong in my book. For more reading check out the below links

for where i got my info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber

http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/nutrition/factsheets/fiber.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konnyaku "

So anyway, the reason I'm making this post is that it seems wrong to me. It

seems like it's still an illegal product but I'm not exactly sure why. Could

you help explain why it's illegal so I can pass that information along?

Thanks

Stacey

[Guest guest]

At 09:15 AM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

So anyway, the reason I'm making

this post is that it seems wrong to me. It seems like it's still an

illegal product but I'm not exactly sure why. Could you help explain why

it's illegal so I can pass that information along?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

Glucomannan is a water-soluble polysaccharide that is

considered a dietary fiber.

http://www.konjacfoods.com/order/index.htm

Made by the whole konjac root, the konjac root naturally contains

rich nutrients such as fiber, starch,

protein, minerals,

(Bolding mine) That enough reason for you? We SCDers don't do starch

and/or polysaccharides.....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 09:15 AM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

So anyway, the reason I'm making

this post is that it seems wrong to me. It seems like it's still an

illegal product but I'm not exactly sure why. Could you help explain why

it's illegal so I can pass that information along?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

Glucomannan is a water-soluble polysaccharide that is

considered a dietary fiber.

http://www.konjacfoods.com/order/index.htm

Made by the whole konjac root, the konjac root naturally contains

rich nutrients such as fiber, starch,

protein, minerals,

(Bolding mine) That enough reason for you? We SCDers don't do starch

and/or polysaccharides.....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

I guess what was confusing me (and again, I still figured it was illegal) was

that when I started trying to look into it myself I found some sites that said

it wasn't a starch and some that said it was. And then I started trying to

figure polysaccharides out and started learning about polysaccharides that are

SCD legal (like glycogen if we eat meat and the ones that exist in small amounts

of fruit). So then I was trying to figure out which poly's are allowed and

which aren't and how we determine what that is. I really shouldn't have read

anything, I'm just so confused now because I thought we were supposed to avoid

all polysaccharides. Is it just the pure poly's we're supposed to avoid?

Geesh...I need to take biology again!

Stacey

> >So anyway, the reason I'm making this post is

> >that it seems wrong to me. It seems like it's

> >still an illegal product but I'm not exactly

> >sure why. Could you help explain why it's

> >illegal so I can pass that information along?

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

>

> Glucomannan is a water-soluble polysaccharide

> that is considered a dietary fiber.

>

> http://www.konjacfoods.com/order/index.htm

>

> Made by the whole konjac root, the konjac root

> naturally contains rich nutrients such as fiber, starch, protein, minerals,

>

> (Bolding mine) That enough reason for you? We

> SCDers don't do starch and/or polysaccharides.....

>

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

I guess what was confusing me (and again, I still figured it was illegal) was

that when I started trying to look into it myself I found some sites that said

it wasn't a starch and some that said it was. And then I started trying to

figure polysaccharides out and started learning about polysaccharides that are

SCD legal (like glycogen if we eat meat and the ones that exist in small amounts

of fruit). So then I was trying to figure out which poly's are allowed and

which aren't and how we determine what that is. I really shouldn't have read

anything, I'm just so confused now because I thought we were supposed to avoid

all polysaccharides. Is it just the pure poly's we're supposed to avoid?

Geesh...I need to take biology again!

Stacey

> >So anyway, the reason I'm making this post is

> >that it seems wrong to me. It seems like it's

> >still an illegal product but I'm not exactly

> >sure why. Could you help explain why it's

> >illegal so I can pass that information along?

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucomannan

>

> Glucomannan is a water-soluble polysaccharide

> that is considered a dietary fiber.

>

> http://www.konjacfoods.com/order/index.htm

>

> Made by the whole konjac root, the konjac root

> naturally contains rich nutrients such as fiber, starch, protein, minerals,

>

> (Bolding mine) That enough reason for you? We

> SCDers don't do starch and/or polysaccharides.....

>

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

I am not familiar with this product but I think this statement below

renders it illegal. I remember Elaine talking about some of the so-called

wonder sugar replacements advertising " zero calories " and she

said yes, zero calories for you, 100% to to feeding the bad bugs.

OK, that's disaccharides but I would think this would be the same thing

with the polysaccharides. I'll say this, I don't think I'll try it!

Sounds like a real feast for my bad buggies.

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

[Guest guest]

I am not familiar with this product but I think this statement below

renders it illegal. I remember Elaine talking about some of the so-called

wonder sugar replacements advertising " zero calories " and she

said yes, zero calories for you, 100% to to feeding the bad bugs.

OK, that's disaccharides but I would think this would be the same thing

with the polysaccharides. I'll say this, I don't think I'll try it!

Sounds like a real feast for my bad buggies.

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

[Guest guest]

Oh I have no intention of trying it - I love my spaghetti squash or zucchini

noodles - but I really just want to understand why it's illegal. The more

research I do, the more confused I seem to make myself. I just want to

understand and be able to explain to others (newbies) who might be thinking of

trying this, why it's a no-no.

Stacey

>

> I am not familiar with this product but I think this statement below

> renders it illegal. I remember Elaine talking about some of the

> so-called wonder sugar replacements advertising " zero calories " and

> she said yes, zero calories for you, 100% to to feeding the bad

> bugs. OK, that's disaccharides but I would think this would be the

> same thing with the polysaccharides. I'll say this, I don't think

> I'll try it! Sounds like a real feast for my bad buggies.

>

>

>

>

> " It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

> polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

>

[Guest guest]

Oh I have no intention of trying it - I love my spaghetti squash or zucchini

noodles - but I really just want to understand why it's illegal. The more

research I do, the more confused I seem to make myself. I just want to

understand and be able to explain to others (newbies) who might be thinking of

trying this, why it's a no-no.

Stacey

>

> I am not familiar with this product but I think this statement below

> renders it illegal. I remember Elaine talking about some of the

> so-called wonder sugar replacements advertising " zero calories " and

> she said yes, zero calories for you, 100% to to feeding the bad

> bugs. OK, that's disaccharides but I would think this would be the

> same thing with the polysaccharides. I'll say this, I don't think

> I'll try it! Sounds like a real feast for my bad buggies.

>

>

>

>

> " It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

> polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

>

[Guest guest]

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

" That which the patient takes beyond his ability to digest does

harm. " Dr. Gee.

WE may not be able to digest it, but the bad bugs in our guts sure

can!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

" It's not a starch its actually soluble fiber, while it is a

polysaccride it is undigestable by our bodies

" That which the patient takes beyond his ability to digest does

harm. " Dr. Gee.

WE may not be able to digest it, but the bad bugs in our guts sure

can!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund