Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for youhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health//"It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease may have contained fundamental study design flaws," wrote the author of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice.Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for youhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health//"It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease may have contained fundamental study design flaws," wrote the author of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice.Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 AMEN!!! It's too bad the general public doesn't know more about this. Thank you so much for posting this! -Joanna > > Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 AMEN!!! It's too bad the general public doesn't know more about this. Thank you so much for posting this! -Joanna > > Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, which in turn can cause health and heart issues. >Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > >Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, which in turn can cause health and heart issues. >Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > >Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > which in turn can cause health and heart issues.>No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other nutrition in saturated fats.  I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories  and Life Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his preconceptions.n>>> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health//>>>> "It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws," wrote the author >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice.>>>> Mara>>-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > which in turn can cause health and heart issues.>No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other nutrition in saturated fats.  I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories  and Life Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his preconceptions.n>>> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health//>>>> "It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws," wrote the author >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice.>>>> Mara>>-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!! Everything in moderation, folks... > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > nutrition in saturated fats. > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > preconceptions. > > n > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > >> > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > >> > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > >> > >> Mara > > > > > > > -- > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > Addiction > by n Van Til > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > reduced shipping elsewhere > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!! Everything in moderation, folks... > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > nutrition in saturated fats. > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > preconceptions. > > n > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > >> > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > >> > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > >> > >> Mara > > > > > > > -- > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > Addiction > by n Van Til > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > reduced shipping elsewhere > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Oops -- meant to say " high carbs may cause problems, " not " carbs may cause carbs. " > > > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > > nutrition in saturated fats. > > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > > preconceptions. > > > > n > > > > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > >> > > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > >> > > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > >> > > >> Mara > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > > Addiction > > by n Van Til > > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > > reduced shipping elsewhere > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Oops -- meant to say " high carbs may cause problems, " not " carbs may cause carbs. " > > > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > > nutrition in saturated fats. > > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > > preconceptions. > > > > n > > > > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > >> > > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > >> > > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > >> > > >> Mara > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > > Addiction > > by n Van Til > > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > > reduced shipping elsewhere > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!!But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!!But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hi, I am new to this site and new to SCD as a result of our 15 year old son who has ulceratus colitis. We have been following the SCD diet for about 2 months, so we are real new:-) Fortunately we have always followed a whole foods diet, low in sugar and refined carbs. So, going without the wheat, gluten, grains and milk (other than the SCD yogurt), hasn't been tooooo bad;-) My sons miss bread and oatmeal:-) Yes, the whole family is following the SCD way of life. Makes it easier on me and my 15 yr old:-) He is a boy scout though and one weekend campout I made all his food. The Summer should prove more challenging! Oh, and about fat...there is fat and there is fat:-) Healthy fats (of which the SCD is full of) are not going to load your body down with fat and unwanted weight unless you over do it and sit around all the time;-) I and my husband are thin and have for at least 20 years eaten a diet high in healthy fats.....coconut oil, olive oil, ghee, eggs, meat, whole milk. We have included in our diet carbs from whole grains and that is where any extra weight came from. In fact, when we started this diet high in fat......broth, meat, the SCD cheesecake, whole milk SCD yogurt, we each lost some weight and have kept it off. Some of us may start adding some grains back into our diet as time foes on, but it will be in moderation and the Nourishing Traditions way. I hope we never have a potato again though.....I am loving the squash so much more:-) Yes, the kitchen and I have become close friends;-) Oh, when I had my yearly check up my cholesterol levels were very good. Therese doing SCD for our son!! Who looks forward to the day when he can have homemade ice cream again:-) Alyssa Luck wrote: >> I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I >> challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, >> etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice >> dreaming!! > > But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all > the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just > the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high > in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, > eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. > > Peace =) > Alyssa 16 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per day > Prednisone 35 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I actually do really well on high fats! And my doctor tested everything and can't find a darn thing wrong with me! In fact, she wrote A+ on my very extensive lab results. > > > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > > nutrition in saturated fats. > > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > > preconceptions. > > > > n > > > > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > >> > > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > >> > > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > >> > > >> Mara > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > > Addiction > > by n Van Til > > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > > reduced shipping elsewhere > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hi, I am new to this site and new to SCD as a result of our 15 year old son who has ulceratus colitis. We have been following the SCD diet for about 2 months, so we are real new:-) Fortunately we have always followed a whole foods diet, low in sugar and refined carbs. So, going without the wheat, gluten, grains and milk (other than the SCD yogurt), hasn't been tooooo bad;-) My sons miss bread and oatmeal:-) Yes, the whole family is following the SCD way of life. Makes it easier on me and my 15 yr old:-) He is a boy scout though and one weekend campout I made all his food. The Summer should prove more challenging! Oh, and about fat...there is fat and there is fat:-) Healthy fats (of which the SCD is full of) are not going to load your body down with fat and unwanted weight unless you over do it and sit around all the time;-) I and my husband are thin and have for at least 20 years eaten a diet high in healthy fats.....coconut oil, olive oil, ghee, eggs, meat, whole milk. We have included in our diet carbs from whole grains and that is where any extra weight came from. In fact, when we started this diet high in fat......broth, meat, the SCD cheesecake, whole milk SCD yogurt, we each lost some weight and have kept it off. Some of us may start adding some grains back into our diet as time foes on, but it will be in moderation and the Nourishing Traditions way. I hope we never have a potato again though.....I am loving the squash so much more:-) Yes, the kitchen and I have become close friends;-) Oh, when I had my yearly check up my cholesterol levels were very good. Therese doing SCD for our son!! Who looks forward to the day when he can have homemade ice cream again:-) Alyssa Luck wrote: >> I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I >> challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, >> etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice >> dreaming!! > > But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all > the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just > the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high > in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, > eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. > > Peace =) > Alyssa 16 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per day > Prednisone 35 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I actually do really well on high fats! And my doctor tested everything and can't find a darn thing wrong with me! In fact, she wrote A+ on my very extensive lab results. > > > > > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing > > > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity, > > > which in turn can cause health and heart issues. > > > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > > nutrition in saturated fats. > > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > > preconceptions. > > > > n > > > > > > > >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you > > >> > > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35058896/ns/health-heart_health// > > >> > > >> " It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a > > >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease > > >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws, " wrote the author > > >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. > > >> > > >> Mara > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: > > Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My > > Addiction > > by n Van Til > > www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., > > reduced shipping elsewhere > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Amen! What do they feed livestock to fatten them up...grains! > >> I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I > >> challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, > >> etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice > >> dreaming!! > > > > But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all > > the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just > > the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high > > in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, > > eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. > > > > Peace =) > > Alyssa 16 yo > > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per day > > Prednisone 35 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Amen! What do they feed livestock to fatten them up...grains! > >> I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I > >> challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, > >> etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice > >> dreaming!! > > > > But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all > > the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just > > the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high > > in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, > > eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. > > > > Peace =) > > Alyssa 16 yo > > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per day > > Prednisone 35 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 In fact, she wrote A+ on my very extensive lab results. :)Yay for good grades ! =D Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 In fact, she wrote A+ on my very extensive lab results. :)Yay for good grades ! =D Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 At 07:04 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!! That's my husband. 33 " waist. 33 " inseam. Weighs the same thing he did when we were married almost 34 years ago, ie, about 160 pounds. Cholesterol and blood pressure normal. He eats mostly SCD -- and we have quite a bit of cheese and eggs and red meat. When we eat out, he gets his burgers with buns, and fries or onion strings. He has ice cream, too, when we eat out. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 At 07:04 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!! That's my husband. 33 " waist. 33 " inseam. Weighs the same thing he did when we were married almost 34 years ago, ie, about 160 pounds. Cholesterol and blood pressure normal. He eats mostly SCD -- and we have quite a bit of cheese and eggs and red meat. When we eat out, he gets his burgers with buns, and fries or onion strings. He has ice cream, too, when we eat out. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 If you eat too many calories, fat or carb, you're going to gain weight. It's just easier to do with fat. For instance, I was floored by the number of calories in one little piece of SCD pizza with almond flour crust. Nut butter/flour muffins are easy to over-indulge in as well, and just one packs a large amount of calories. I sure notice a weight gain when I eat too much nut butter and the like, and I've seen several people here say the same. I recently had to cut back on cheese, because I can't afford to outgrow any more clothes (I had to discard 3/4 of my shorts today *sniff*). Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > > No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent > study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes > them to utilize fats differently). The saturate-fat-is-bad-for-you thing > has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease > and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze > (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other > nutrition in saturated fats. > I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life > Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we > needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes > the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and > fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very > carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated > fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one > doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had > preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the > clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his > preconceptions. > > n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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