Somewhat OT - SCD legal ways to treat adrenal fatigue

[Guest guest]

I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

[Guest guest]

I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

[Guest guest]

My doctor is a believer. I took Ashwagandha, Cordyceps, and Rhodiola, which I

have never been able to determine to be SCD legal. Believe it or not, heavily

salting my food helped a lot! I craved salt so much at the time. Some of the B

vitamins are great for this too.

>

> I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

>

> Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

My doctor is a believer. I took Ashwagandha, Cordyceps, and Rhodiola, which I

have never been able to determine to be SCD legal. Believe it or not, heavily

salting my food helped a lot! I craved salt so much at the time. Some of the B

vitamins are great for this too.

>

> I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

>

> Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't taking

it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so many decades

of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that the support from

the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least improve so much, may

very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals so they can improve.

Finally.

I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff

mentioned at stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I

have it. So what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people

hawking supplements, but which ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with

my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly

[Guest guest]

Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't taking

it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so many decades

of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that the support from

the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least improve so much, may

very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals so they can improve.

Finally.

I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff

mentioned at stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I

have it. So what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people

hawking supplements, but which ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with

my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly

[Guest guest]

I know my adrenals are doing something - either over excited or not in balance

for sure. I have been on rhodiola, which is supposed to help the body to

normalize levels for itself. I'm not sure what ashwadandha is supposed to do,

but it's in my SleepTonight blend - supposed to cut cortisol production. Isn't

cordyceps good for many things? Sort of a tonic in Traditional Chinese Medicine?

That sounds lovely to me, except maybe expensive.

I too have had salt cravings, especially on the diet. I think we are supposed to

have about 2 grams of salt/day. I'm not sure how much is naturally in meat, but

I find that not eating processed foods, etc, I need to salt my veggies, eggs,

etc. to feel " normal. " My feeling of being awake and present will happen very

suddenly when I get my salt. Iodized salt also contains iodine, which I believe

the thyroid uses? I could be wrong - maybe it's the adrenals.

I tried fasting from my supplements these last three days since I started

flairing again. My kidneys literally feel better (I re-estimated and I was

actually taking about 30 pills/day). My mood is more stable as are my energy

levels throughout the day. Drinking lots of water. Not sure if this will

actually help normalize my adrenals or not...we will see.

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

Prednisone, acyclovir, allegra, quercetin, probiotics, fasting from other

supplements right now

> >

> > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> >

> > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know my adrenals are doing something - either over excited or not in balance

for sure. I have been on rhodiola, which is supposed to help the body to

normalize levels for itself. I'm not sure what ashwadandha is supposed to do,

but it's in my SleepTonight blend - supposed to cut cortisol production. Isn't

cordyceps good for many things? Sort of a tonic in Traditional Chinese Medicine?

That sounds lovely to me, except maybe expensive.

I too have had salt cravings, especially on the diet. I think we are supposed to

have about 2 grams of salt/day. I'm not sure how much is naturally in meat, but

I find that not eating processed foods, etc, I need to salt my veggies, eggs,

etc. to feel " normal. " My feeling of being awake and present will happen very

suddenly when I get my salt. Iodized salt also contains iodine, which I believe

the thyroid uses? I could be wrong - maybe it's the adrenals.

I tried fasting from my supplements these last three days since I started

flairing again. My kidneys literally feel better (I re-estimated and I was

actually taking about 30 pills/day). My mood is more stable as are my energy

levels throughout the day. Drinking lots of water. Not sure if this will

actually help normalize my adrenals or not...we will see.

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

Prednisone, acyclovir, allegra, quercetin, probiotics, fasting from other

supplements right now

> >

> > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> >

> > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dawn! I'll look into those, although being herbs, they probably aren't

SCD legal. It might be worth the risk though.

Did you take all 3 everyday, or did you rotate them? How long did you take them?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> >

> > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dawn! I'll look into those, although being herbs, they probably aren't

SCD legal. It might be worth the risk though.

Did you take all 3 everyday, or did you rotate them? How long did you take them?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> >

> > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it? I

have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid then),

and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I take LDN. It's been 2 1/2 months since I started. I hope it helps the

adrenals!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't

> taking it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so

> many decades of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that

> the support from the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least

> improve so much, may very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals

> so they can improve. Finally.

>

>

>

> I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

> stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So

> what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking

> supplements, but which ones are really useful?

> Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

> poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up

> with my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> Thank you!

> Holly

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I take LDN. It's been 2 1/2 months since I started. I hope it helps the

adrenals!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't

> taking it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so

> many decades of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that

> the support from the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least

> improve so much, may very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals

> so they can improve. Finally.

>

>

>

> I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

> stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So

> what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking

> supplements, but which ones are really useful?

> Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

> poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up

> with my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> Thank you!

> Holly

>

[Guest guest]

I took full doses of all of them daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think

Ashwagandha is amazing. Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I

don't seem to react to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal

mushroom so that one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I

scaled back to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and

I miss it!!!

> > >

> > > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> > >

> > > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it?

I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid

then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> > >

> > > Thank you!

> > >

> > > Holly

> > > Crohn's

> > > SCD 12/01/08

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I took full doses of all of them daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think

Ashwagandha is amazing. Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I

don't seem to react to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal

mushroom so that one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I

scaled back to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and

I miss it!!!

> > >

> > > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> > >

> > > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo it?

I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid

then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> > >

> > > Thank you!

> > >

> > > Holly

> > > Crohn's

> > > SCD 12/01/08

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At 08:28 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I took full doses of all of them

daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think Ashwagandha is amazing.

Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I don't seem to react

to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal mushroom so that

one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I scaled back

to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and I

miss it!!!

Please don't recommend things which may or may not be legal.

Ashwagandha, Cordyceps, and Rhodiola

The main constituents of ashwagandha are alkaloids and steroidal

lactones. Among the various alkaloids, withanine is the main constituent.

The other alkaloids are somniferine, somnine, somniferinine, withananine,

pseudo-withanine, tropine, pseudo-tropine, cuscohygrine,anferine and

anhydrine. Two acyl steryl glucoside viz. sitoindoside VII and

sitoindoside VIII have been isolated from root. The leaves contain

steroidal lactones, which are commonly called withanolides. The

withanolides have C28 steroidal nucleus with C9 side chain, having six

membered lactone ring.

Caterpillar fungi are the result of a parasitic relationship between the

fungus and the larva of the ghost moth genus Thitarodes, several species

of which live on the Tibetan Plateau (Tibet, Qinghai, West-Sichuan,

SW-Gansu & NW Yunnan, all in China, and the Himalayas India, Nepal,

Bhutan). The fungus germinates in living organisms (in some cases the

larvae), kills and mummifies the insect, and then the cordyceps grows

from the body of the insect. It is known in the West as a medicinal

mushroom and its use has a long history in Traditional Chinese medicine

as well as Traditional Tibetan medicine.[1]

Rhodiola rosea may be effective for improving mood and alleviating

depression. Pilot studies on human subjects[2][3][4] showed that it

improves physical and mental performance, and may reduce fatigue.

Rhodiola rosea's effects potentially are related to optimizing

serotonin and dopamine levels due to monoamine oxidase inhibition and its

influence on opioid peptides such as beta-endorphins,[5] although these

specific neurochemical mechanisms have not been clearly documented with

scientific studies.

Rhodiola is included among a class of plant derivatives called

adaptogens which differ from chemical stimulants, such as nicotine, and

do not have the same physiological effects.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 08:28 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

I took full doses of all of them

daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think Ashwagandha is amazing.

Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I don't seem to react

to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal mushroom so that

one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I scaled back

to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and I

miss it!!!

Please don't recommend things which may or may not be legal.

Ashwagandha, Cordyceps, and Rhodiola

The main constituents of ashwagandha are alkaloids and steroidal

lactones. Among the various alkaloids, withanine is the main constituent.

The other alkaloids are somniferine, somnine, somniferinine, withananine,

pseudo-withanine, tropine, pseudo-tropine, cuscohygrine,anferine and

anhydrine. Two acyl steryl glucoside viz. sitoindoside VII and

sitoindoside VIII have been isolated from root. The leaves contain

steroidal lactones, which are commonly called withanolides. The

withanolides have C28 steroidal nucleus with C9 side chain, having six

membered lactone ring.

Caterpillar fungi are the result of a parasitic relationship between the

fungus and the larva of the ghost moth genus Thitarodes, several species

of which live on the Tibetan Plateau (Tibet, Qinghai, West-Sichuan,

SW-Gansu & NW Yunnan, all in China, and the Himalayas India, Nepal,

Bhutan). The fungus germinates in living organisms (in some cases the

larvae), kills and mummifies the insect, and then the cordyceps grows

from the body of the insect. It is known in the West as a medicinal

mushroom and its use has a long history in Traditional Chinese medicine

as well as Traditional Tibetan medicine.[1]

Rhodiola rosea may be effective for improving mood and alleviating

depression. Pilot studies on human subjects[2][3][4] showed that it

improves physical and mental performance, and may reduce fatigue.

Rhodiola rosea's effects potentially are related to optimizing

serotonin and dopamine levels due to monoamine oxidase inhibition and its

influence on opioid peptides such as beta-endorphins,[5] although these

specific neurochemical mechanisms have not been clearly documented with

scientific studies.

Rhodiola is included among a class of plant derivatives called

adaptogens which differ from chemical stimulants, such as nicotine, and

do not have the same physiological effects.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

>

>

> At 08:28 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

>> I took full doses of all of them daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think

Ashwagandha is amazing. Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I

don't seem to react to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal

mushroom so that one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I

scaled back to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and

I miss it!!!

>

> Please don't recommend things which may or may not be legal.

And they are...?

Also, on another subject, is lactic acid legal in organic butter?

As it turns out, much non salted butter has natural flavors in it,

whereas salted butter of the same brand does not. I was

surprised by this - even the house TJs non organic brand

follows suit and their organic one has lactic acid. I wasn't

sure if that made more lactose or what.

I wonder if this is seasonal and things get added in winter,

because I've never noticed it to this extent before.

Mara

[Guest guest]

>

>

> At 08:28 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

>> I took full doses of all of them daily. Honestly, if I had to pick 1, I think

Ashwagandha is amazing. Haven't been able to figure out its legality, but I

don't seem to react to it. I think Cordyceps is basically just a medicinal

mushroom so that one might be safe. I took them for months and months until I

scaled back to just Ashwagandha. I am off it right now because I am fasting and

I miss it!!!

>

> Please don't recommend things which may or may not be legal.

And they are...?

Also, on another subject, is lactic acid legal in organic butter?

As it turns out, much non salted butter has natural flavors in it,

whereas salted butter of the same brand does not. I was

surprised by this - even the house TJs non organic brand

follows suit and their organic one has lactic acid. I wasn't

sure if that made more lactose or what.

I wonder if this is seasonal and things get added in winter,

because I've never noticed it to this extent before.

Mara

[Guest guest]

At 10:05 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

Please don't recommend things

which may or may not be legal.

And they are...?

The herbs that were being spoken about. I don't happen to have time right

now to do more research than I posted on them. The beagle chewed up my

glasses. I have a bad earache.

Here is a link to " lactic acid. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid#Lactic_acid_in_foods

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 10:05 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

Please don't recommend things

which may or may not be legal.

And they are...?

The herbs that were being spoken about. I don't happen to have time right

now to do more research than I posted on them. The beagle chewed up my

glasses. I have a bad earache.

Here is a link to " lactic acid. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid#Lactic_acid_in_foods

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Dawn! I'll ask my doctor about everything Thursday.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> > > >

> > > > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> > > >

> > > > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo

it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid

then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you!

> > > >

> > > > Holly

> > > > Crohn's

> > > > SCD 12/01/08

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Dawn! I'll ask my doctor about everything Thursday.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> > > >

> > > > I did the " at home " tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff mentioned at

stopthethyroidmadness), and not surprisingly, it seems I have it. So what are

SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people hawking supplements, but which

ones are really useful?

> > > >

> > > > Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo poo

it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with my thyroid

then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you!

> > > >

> > > > Holly

> > > > Crohn's

> > > > SCD 12/01/08

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,I will definitely be keeping that in mind! ; )AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 4:39:45 PMSubject: Re:Somewhat OT - SCD legal ways to treat adrenal fatigue

Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't taking

it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so many decades

of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that the support from

the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least improve so much, may

very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals so they can improve.

Finally.

I did the "at home" tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff

mentioned at stopthethyroidmadne ss), and not surprisingly, it seems I

have it. So what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people

hawking supplements, but which ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with

my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly

[Guest guest]

,I will definitely be keeping that in mind! ; )AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 4:39:45 PMSubject: Re:Somewhat OT - SCD legal ways to treat adrenal fatigue

Here's where you might want to consider LDN, too, if you aren't taking

it. My adrenals are either totally gone or almost after so many decades

of illness, but even so, my (excellent) doc feels that the support from

the LDN and its ability to help resolve or at least improve so much, may

very well take a lot of stress off the adrenals so they can improve.

Finally.

I did the "at home" tests for adrenal fatigue (the stuff

mentioned at stopthethyroidmadne ss), and not surprisingly, it seems I

have it. So what are SCD legal ways to treat it? I see lots of people

hawking supplements, but which ones are really useful?

Also, do regular doctors recognize adrenal fatigue, or do they poo

poo it? I have an appointment this week (should find out what's up with

my thyroid then), and wonder whether it's worth mentioning.

Thank you!

Holly