Ate out yesterday, bled today

[Guest guest]

Glad you feel better. Beware the restaurant chicken too.

PJ

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> Update:

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> No blood today. It was probably the Mozzarella, then.

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[Guest guest]

More update.

After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's Chris

Steakhouse. I had their petite fillet and steamed asparagus, all of their

ingredients and method of preparations sounded legal.

Some bleeding this morning. Any thing illegal here?

Though I have beef patties, I have never had a whole steak and so many

asparagus. COuld that be the reason?

Man, sometimes I feel life sucks so much that we can't even enjoy normal, simple

pleasures of going out with a friend for a meal

-Andy

[Guest guest]

More update.

After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's Chris

Steakhouse. I had their petite fillet and steamed asparagus, all of their

ingredients and method of preparations sounded legal.

Some bleeding this morning. Any thing illegal here?

Though I have beef patties, I have never had a whole steak and so many

asparagus. COuld that be the reason?

Man, sometimes I feel life sucks so much that we can't even enjoy normal, simple

pleasures of going out with a friend for a meal

-Andy

[Guest guest]

Another update.

After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's Chris

Steakhouse last night.

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled

and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

I had some bleeding today. Anybody knows any illegals here? Or is it just that

I'm reacting to a heavy dose of beef (I just have small beef patties), and some

10 asparagus?

This kinda sucks -- normal, simple pleasures we have to think so much

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

Another update.

After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's Chris

Steakhouse last night.

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled

and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

I had some bleeding today. Anybody knows any illegals here? Or is it just that

I'm reacting to a heavy dose of beef (I just have small beef patties), and some

10 asparagus?

This kinda sucks -- normal, simple pleasures we have to think so much

Thanks,

Andy.

[Guest guest]

I eat at Ruth's every week in Beverly Hills. My instructions to

them are the petit filet with no " rub " as they call it, no seasoning, no

oils or butter and a clean grill. I've never had a problem but allowing

butter might be allowing other things also. Their steamed vegetables

like broccoli or asparagus are are always served " clean " with out

butters or oils. Ron

[Guest guest]

I eat at Ruth's every week in Beverly Hills. My instructions to

them are the petit filet with no " rub " as they call it, no seasoning, no

oils or butter and a clean grill. I've never had a problem but allowing

butter might be allowing other things also. Their steamed vegetables

like broccoli or asparagus are are always served " clean " with out

butters or oils. Ron

[Guest guest]

I would suggest waiting longer and staying on bland foods. It takes a long time

to heal, longer than one day. I would suspect the " butter " which is sometimes

margarine with flavoring. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I still rarely eat out.

My approach to SCD was to realize I would just eat at home, for a long time,

until I felt better. The few times I did eat out, it was plain unmarinated steak

or fish with no seasonings and a small plain salad that I picked at. I went

mainly for the social aspect, not the food. I had to eat a snack later as it was

not enough for a meal. I like my own food because I know what is in it.

Vegetables in restaurants were never cooked enough for me. I had to cook the

daylights out of them to tolerate them at first.

The first few months on SCD are a delicate time. I realized this was a big

commitment, but feeling better in the long run is worth the sacrifice in the

short run.

PJ

>

>

> Another update.

>

> After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's

Steakhouse last night.

>

> Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply

grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

>

> I had some bleeding today. Anybody knows any illegals here? Or is it just that

I'm reacting to a heavy dose of beef (I just have small beef patties), and some

10 asparagus?

>

> This kinda sucks -- normal, simple pleasures we have to think so much

>

> Thanks,

> Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

I would suggest waiting longer and staying on bland foods. It takes a long time

to heal, longer than one day. I would suspect the " butter " which is sometimes

margarine with flavoring. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I still rarely eat out.

My approach to SCD was to realize I would just eat at home, for a long time,

until I felt better. The few times I did eat out, it was plain unmarinated steak

or fish with no seasonings and a small plain salad that I picked at. I went

mainly for the social aspect, not the food. I had to eat a snack later as it was

not enough for a meal. I like my own food because I know what is in it.

Vegetables in restaurants were never cooked enough for me. I had to cook the

daylights out of them to tolerate them at first.

The first few months on SCD are a delicate time. I realized this was a big

commitment, but feeling better in the long run is worth the sacrifice in the

short run.

PJ

>

>

> Another update.

>

> After one day of eating at home and no bleeding, I ventured out to Ruth's

Steakhouse last night.

>

> Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply

grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

>

> I had some bleeding today. Anybody knows any illegals here? Or is it just that

I'm reacting to a heavy dose of beef (I just have small beef patties), and some

10 asparagus?

>

> This kinda sucks -- normal, simple pleasures we have to think so much

>

> Thanks,

> Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

PJ- Eating at home is what I've been doing. But with a good friend visiting

after a long time and spring, I just couldn't hold myself cooking all the time

for two people. I suppose I will have a longer healing next week.

Ron- I thought since they're upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is

the butter that gives the flavor

Thanks, guys.

[Guest guest]

PJ- Eating at home is what I've been doing. But with a good friend visiting

after a long time and spring, I just couldn't hold myself cooking all the time

for two people. I suppose I will have a longer healing next week.

Ron- I thought since they're upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is

the butter that gives the flavor

Thanks, guys.

[Guest guest]

I know it's hard.... but hopefully you will get a rest this week.I have those

times where cooking is just too much. I end up eating a lot of scrambled eggs

and canned tuna.

Do you have a freezer? It does help when I can make a lot of soup at a time and

freeze. I also cook hamburger patties and freeze them individually. It helps.

My family and friends just have to put up with me

Until we have a chain of SCD restaurants...some day...

PJ

>

>

> PJ- Eating at home is what I've been doing. But with a good friend visiting

after a long time and spring, I just couldn't hold myself cooking all the time

for two people. I suppose I will have a longer healing next week.

>

> Ron- I thought since they're upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is

the butter that gives the flavor

>

> Thanks, guys.

>

[Guest guest]

I know it's hard.... but hopefully you will get a rest this week.I have those

times where cooking is just too much. I end up eating a lot of scrambled eggs

and canned tuna.

Do you have a freezer? It does help when I can make a lot of soup at a time and

freeze. I also cook hamburger patties and freeze them individually. It helps.

My family and friends just have to put up with me

Until we have a chain of SCD restaurants...some day...

PJ

>

>

> PJ- Eating at home is what I've been doing. But with a good friend visiting

after a long time and spring, I just couldn't hold myself cooking all the time

for two people. I suppose I will have a longer healing next week.

>

> Ron- I thought since they're upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is

the butter that gives the flavor

>

> Thanks, guys.

>

[Guest guest]

Andy, I'm sure it is butter but they call it a rub which might include

other seasoning ingredients. Ron

[Guest guest]

Andy, I'm sure it is butter but they call it a rub which might include

other seasoning ingredients. Ron

[Guest guest]

Ron- I thought since they're

upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is the butter that gives

the flavor

When I eat out, I order my steak with no seasoning and no butter. I've

discovered, to my dismay, that even upscale restaurants often use a mix

of butter and margarine (because margarine is healthier! yeah, right!) in

and on their food.

I take real butter with me and toss a few tablespoons on the hot plate

the steak comes out on, it melts, and then I spoon it over the meat.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Ron- I thought since they're

upscale, butter will not have margarine and it is the butter that gives

the flavor

When I eat out, I order my steak with no seasoning and no butter. I've

discovered, to my dismay, that even upscale restaurants often use a mix

of butter and margarine (because margarine is healthier! yeah, right!) in

and on their food.

I take real butter with me and toss a few tablespoons on the hot plate

the steak comes out on, it melts, and then I spoon it over the meat.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.The only thing I can think is that maybe the beef was marinated in something already. Did you ask them about that? Also, they could've said it was tossed with butter, but really used a fake 'butter' with something illegal in it. Personally, I would just not eat out for a while if I were you! I'm surprised you were willing to try it again so soon after the last incident. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.The only thing I can think is that maybe the beef was marinated in something already. Did you ask them about that? Also, they could've said it was tossed with butter, but really used a fake 'butter' with something illegal in it. Personally, I would just not eat out for a while if I were you! I'm surprised you were willing to try it again so soon after the last incident. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

I've tried Ruth's a few times and not had any problems. I think they are all SCD legal, salt, pepper, parsley and butter. Pretty sure they do not marinate or use margerine. I usually get the Cowboy Ribeye, steamed vegetables and nothing else. Only one time did I have some D the next day and that was probably because I had too much wine.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 4:45:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ate out yesterday, bled today

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

The only thing I can think is that maybe the beef was marinated in something already. Did you ask them about that? Also, they could've said it was tossed with butter, but really used a fake 'butter' with something illegal in it. Personally, I would just not eat out for a while if I were you! I'm surprised you were willing to try it again so soon after the last incident.

Peace =)

Alyssa 16 yo

UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

I've tried Ruth's a few times and not had any problems. I think they are all SCD legal, salt, pepper, parsley and butter. Pretty sure they do not marinate or use margerine. I usually get the Cowboy Ribeye, steamed vegetables and nothing else. Only one time did I have some D the next day and that was probably because I had too much wine.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 4:45:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ate out yesterday, bled today

Had petite beef fillet and steamed asparagus. The beef fillet was simply grilled and then tossed with parsley and butter. Nothing sounded illegal here.

The only thing I can think is that maybe the beef was marinated in something already. Did you ask them about that? Also, they could've said it was tossed with butter, but really used a fake 'butter' with something illegal in it. Personally, I would just not eat out for a while if I were you! I'm surprised you were willing to try it again so soon after the last incident.

Peace =)

Alyssa 16 yo

UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

are you sure you don't have any fissures that could be bleeding in the anal

area? the reason why I ask is that the bleeding could be coming from that and

not internally and that would mean its not the food that caused it. Mozarella is

not legal though...hope you have fun with you friend this weekend regardless!!!!

>

>

> Hi-

>

> For last 4 months, I have been strict SCD. I did eat out a couple of times,

but that was grilled meat and veggies (SCD legal) with no problems.

>

> Yesterday, at an upscale restaurant, I ventured into eating Roasted chicken

and pan-roasted zucchini; and a tad bit of Mozzarella cheese with basil pesto. I

asked the waitress specific questions and it all sounded legal.

>

> Also, I had my SCD yogurt which is 2.5 weeks old.

>

> This morning, though I had firm stools, I had quite a bit of fresh blood that

I have not seen in 4 months.

>

> This means two things: (1) SCD indeed has put things under control; (2) Should

be very careful.

>

> I was wondering what caused it: (i) roasted chicken; (2) mozzarella; (3)

zucchini; (4) basil/pesto; or (5) 2.5-week old yogurt?

>

> Also, I plan to eat my regular SCD food and see if the bleeding stops. Else, I

have to go back to Intro That'll be sad because I have a friend visiting this

week and we plan to have some fun.

>

> Thoughts appreciated.

> -Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

are you sure you don't have any fissures that could be bleeding in the anal

area? the reason why I ask is that the bleeding could be coming from that and

not internally and that would mean its not the food that caused it. Mozarella is

not legal though...hope you have fun with you friend this weekend regardless!!!!

>

>

> Hi-

>

> For last 4 months, I have been strict SCD. I did eat out a couple of times,

but that was grilled meat and veggies (SCD legal) with no problems.

>

> Yesterday, at an upscale restaurant, I ventured into eating Roasted chicken

and pan-roasted zucchini; and a tad bit of Mozzarella cheese with basil pesto. I

asked the waitress specific questions and it all sounded legal.

>

> Also, I had my SCD yogurt which is 2.5 weeks old.

>

> This morning, though I had firm stools, I had quite a bit of fresh blood that

I have not seen in 4 months.

>

> This means two things: (1) SCD indeed has put things under control; (2) Should

be very careful.

>

> I was wondering what caused it: (i) roasted chicken; (2) mozzarella; (3)

zucchini; (4) basil/pesto; or (5) 2.5-week old yogurt?

>

> Also, I plan to eat my regular SCD food and see if the bleeding stops. Else, I

have to go back to Intro That'll be sad because I have a friend visiting this

week and we plan to have some fun.

>

> Thoughts appreciated.

> -Andy.

>

[Guest guest]

This is very common. Most people/restaurants seem to think any semi-solid

yellow fatty thing is " butter " so they will assure you

sincerely that yes, this is " butter " . And it's not. This

happens on all levels. Many years ago when I was merely battling

hypoglycemia, we were at a restaurant and I explained that I had to have

PLAIN rice. I was assured the rice was plain. When it came it had

all kinds of unidentifiable " stuff " in it and flecks of other

stuff. I protested that I had ordered plain rice and the waitress said

indignantly that this WAS plain rice. Non-plain rice to her meant

gravy on it. We have to watch every little thing!

Andy, I'm sure it is butter but they call it a rub which might

include other seasoning ingredients. Ron

[Guest guest]

This is very common. Most people/restaurants seem to think any semi-solid

yellow fatty thing is " butter " so they will assure you

sincerely that yes, this is " butter " . And it's not. This

happens on all levels. Many years ago when I was merely battling

hypoglycemia, we were at a restaurant and I explained that I had to have

PLAIN rice. I was assured the rice was plain. When it came it had

all kinds of unidentifiable " stuff " in it and flecks of other

stuff. I protested that I had ordered plain rice and the waitress said

indignantly that this WAS plain rice. Non-plain rice to her meant

gravy on it. We have to watch every little thing!

Andy, I'm sure it is butter but they call it a rub which might

include other seasoning ingredients. Ron