Re: I need DESSERT!!!!-adrenal fatigue

[Guest guest]

I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it give

you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds, have

skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll on

my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> ,

>

> It depends on just what exactly going on I suppose. Sometimes it is just

taking additional salt believe it or not, and other times you need to take

dessicated adrenal cortex (like taking dessicated thyroid) or the actual

bio-identical steroid -- whichever one is needed -- usually cortisol. There is

a good book called " Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome " which

will cover all the basics of adrenal function, how to tell if you have adrenal

fatigue, and what to do about it. Many of the supplements that might be needed

can be sourced through online or healthfood stores as well.

>

> Basically a general indicator is if after a 'good' nights sleep you still feel

exhausted, or if you do something a little more physically challenging one day

it takes you a day or two to recover, or if you have unexplained heart

palpitations, or you are cold yet you are perspiring under your arms and/or your

feet. There are many signs and those signs could also mean something else.

Also, a lot of times adrenal fatigue goes with hypothyroid and they will have

overlapping symptoms. Another good read is " Stop the Thyroid Madness. " It will

have info on thyroid as well as adrenal fatigue. The associated website

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ has some suggestions that can help

you determine if your adrenals are low.

>

> Amelia

[Guest guest]

I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it give

you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds, have

skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll on

my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> ,

>

> It depends on just what exactly going on I suppose. Sometimes it is just

taking additional salt believe it or not, and other times you need to take

dessicated adrenal cortex (like taking dessicated thyroid) or the actual

bio-identical steroid -- whichever one is needed -- usually cortisol. There is

a good book called " Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome " which

will cover all the basics of adrenal function, how to tell if you have adrenal

fatigue, and what to do about it. Many of the supplements that might be needed

can be sourced through online or healthfood stores as well.

>

> Basically a general indicator is if after a 'good' nights sleep you still feel

exhausted, or if you do something a little more physically challenging one day

it takes you a day or two to recover, or if you have unexplained heart

palpitations, or you are cold yet you are perspiring under your arms and/or your

feet. There are many signs and those signs could also mean something else.

Also, a lot of times adrenal fatigue goes with hypothyroid and they will have

overlapping symptoms. Another good read is " Stop the Thyroid Madness. " It will

have info on thyroid as well as adrenal fatigue. The associated website

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ has some suggestions that can help

you determine if your adrenals are low.

>

> Amelia

[Guest guest]

Holly,

I gained weight in the same manner after taking antibiotics three years ago. It

was the oddest thing...I've never had a significant weight issue, and tend

towards an athletic build. But I took those AB and in six months I put on 30

lbs or so, and it was all in a weird roll of fat around my belly. It was like

this soft, hanging slab of fat, which sounds just like yours. It wasn't

bloating (although I had plenty of that). The soft roll has largely gone away

with the weight loss I've experienced on SCD, but I still have a bit of a belly.

I sometimes look at myself in the mirror and I look like a skinny old man with a

big ole belly.

Although miserable, this illness has also been a fascinating journey. I'm

starting to see how all these issues (autism, obesity, autoimmunity, IBD,

diabetes, etc.) are linked. My weight gain following the AB was beyond my

control, and it made me very sympathetic to the overweight.

Ellen

>

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it give

you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds, have

skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll on

my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

Holly,

I gained weight in the same manner after taking antibiotics three years ago. It

was the oddest thing...I've never had a significant weight issue, and tend

towards an athletic build. But I took those AB and in six months I put on 30

lbs or so, and it was all in a weird roll of fat around my belly. It was like

this soft, hanging slab of fat, which sounds just like yours. It wasn't

bloating (although I had plenty of that). The soft roll has largely gone away

with the weight loss I've experienced on SCD, but I still have a bit of a belly.

I sometimes look at myself in the mirror and I look like a skinny old man with a

big ole belly.

Although miserable, this illness has also been a fascinating journey. I'm

starting to see how all these issues (autism, obesity, autoimmunity, IBD,

diabetes, etc.) are linked. My weight gain following the AB was beyond my

control, and it made me very sympathetic to the overweight.

Ellen

>

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it give

you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds, have

skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll on

my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard from many doctors and I think read somewhere that cortisol

production is increased in times of stress and illness (as well as from fast

food, caffeine, corn-fed animals, alcohol, etc.). So the body responds to stress

by pumping up production, but this is usually a " normal " stress response in

healthy people, i.e. you get up in the morning and need to get moving - your

body produces cortisol. You are in the middle of a heated conversation - your

body produces cortisol. It helps us think faster and use our bodies. Without it,

we are sluggish and would rather be sleeping. However, in prolonged stress, the

stress response is no longer " normal. " This happens with chronic illness. Our

bodies keep pumping it out and pumping it out - leading to gained weight

especially around the middle. Then sometimes the adrenals I think give out in

exhaustion, and we have a plummet in our cortisol production. This leads to more

inflamation, as cortisol is also an anti-inflamatory to the body, causing the

suppresion of T fighter cells (I think) and increasing a healing response to

tissue. When cortisol is no longer present, T fighter cells become more active.

That is all the info I think I know about cortisol. I'm still confused a bit

about how prednisone works. I think that it emulates cortisol, causing the

anti-inflamatory effect, but tells the body it has enough cortisol, so cortisol

production goes down overall. That's why going off of it is no fun.

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

Prednisone 10mg, acyclovir, multivitamin

>

>

> Holly,

>

> In the book " Adrenal Fatigue The 21st century Stress Syndrome " it says:

> " The temporary increase in cortisol levels produced by driving the adrenals

with too much fast food and caffeine causes people with chronically low cortisol

to put on weight because even a temporary excess of cortisol causes fat to be

deposited around the middle (the spare tire or swallowed-a-beach-ball look). "

> Now I'm not eating fast food, hardly ever did before SCD either. But i have

exactly what you describe. Haven't gained weight anywhere else but around

my middle.

>   Darlene

> Intestinal Dysbiosis/CFS

> SCD 1 month

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:55:59 AM

> Subject: Re: I need DESSERT!!!!-adrenal fatigue

>

>  

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism) . Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have heard from many doctors and I think read somewhere that cortisol

production is increased in times of stress and illness (as well as from fast

food, caffeine, corn-fed animals, alcohol, etc.). So the body responds to stress

by pumping up production, but this is usually a " normal " stress response in

healthy people, i.e. you get up in the morning and need to get moving - your

body produces cortisol. You are in the middle of a heated conversation - your

body produces cortisol. It helps us think faster and use our bodies. Without it,

we are sluggish and would rather be sleeping. However, in prolonged stress, the

stress response is no longer " normal. " This happens with chronic illness. Our

bodies keep pumping it out and pumping it out - leading to gained weight

especially around the middle. Then sometimes the adrenals I think give out in

exhaustion, and we have a plummet in our cortisol production. This leads to more

inflamation, as cortisol is also an anti-inflamatory to the body, causing the

suppresion of T fighter cells (I think) and increasing a healing response to

tissue. When cortisol is no longer present, T fighter cells become more active.

That is all the info I think I know about cortisol. I'm still confused a bit

about how prednisone works. I think that it emulates cortisol, causing the

anti-inflamatory effect, but tells the body it has enough cortisol, so cortisol

production goes down overall. That's why going off of it is no fun.

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

Prednisone 10mg, acyclovir, multivitamin

>

>

> Holly,

>

> In the book " Adrenal Fatigue The 21st century Stress Syndrome " it says:

> " The temporary increase in cortisol levels produced by driving the adrenals

with too much fast food and caffeine causes people with chronically low cortisol

to put on weight because even a temporary excess of cortisol causes fat to be

deposited around the middle (the spare tire or swallowed-a-beach-ball look). "

> Now I'm not eating fast food, hardly ever did before SCD either. But i have

exactly what you describe. Haven't gained weight anywhere else but around

my middle.

>   Darlene

> Intestinal Dysbiosis/CFS

> SCD 1 month

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:55:59 AM

> Subject: Re: I need DESSERT!!!!-adrenal fatigue

>

>  

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism) . Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Darlene (and Amelia and Mara)! I've gained 16 needed pounds in the last

year, and it seems like it all went to the gut and boobs, neither of which I

needed. I just ordered a supplement for adrenal fatigue, hopefully that will

help!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

>

> Holly,

>

> In the book " Adrenal Fatigue The 21st century Stress Syndrome " it says:

> " The temporary increase in cortisol levels produced by driving the adrenals

with too much fast food and caffeine causes people with chronically low cortisol

to put on weight because even a temporary excess of cortisol causes fat to be

deposited around the middle (the spare tire or swallowed-a-beach-ball look). "

> Now I'm not eating fast food, hardly ever did before SCD either. But i have

exactly what you describe. Haven't gained weight anywhere else but around

my middle.

>   Darlene

> Intestinal Dysbiosis/CFS

> SCD 1 month

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:55:59 AM

> Subject: Re: I need DESSERT!!!!-adrenal fatigue

>

>  

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism) . Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________________________

> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your

favourite sites. Download it now

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Darlene (and Amelia and Mara)! I've gained 16 needed pounds in the last

year, and it seems like it all went to the gut and boobs, neither of which I

needed. I just ordered a supplement for adrenal fatigue, hopefully that will

help!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

>

> Holly,

>

> In the book " Adrenal Fatigue The 21st century Stress Syndrome " it says:

> " The temporary increase in cortisol levels produced by driving the adrenals

with too much fast food and caffeine causes people with chronically low cortisol

to put on weight because even a temporary excess of cortisol causes fat to be

deposited around the middle (the spare tire or swallowed-a-beach-ball look). "

> Now I'm not eating fast food, hardly ever did before SCD either. But i have

exactly what you describe. Haven't gained weight anywhere else but around

my middle.

>   Darlene

> Intestinal Dysbiosis/CFS

> SCD 1 month

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:55:59 AM

> Subject: Re: I need DESSERT!!!!-adrenal fatigue

>

>  

> I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism) . Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________________________

> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your

favourite sites. Download it now

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>

[Guest guest]

Well it looks like I'm not alone in this ;-). Hopefully we can all get rid of

our fat rolls!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well it looks like I'm not alone in this ;-). Hopefully we can all get rid of

our fat rolls!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > I have another question about adrenal fatigue (or hypothyroidism). Can it

give you a fat gut, even when the rest of you is skinny? I weigh 106 pounds,

have skinny arms and legs, and no butt to speak of, yet I have this big fat roll

on my gut. When I sit down, it rolls over my shorts/jeans, and they poke

uncomfortably into it. I'm 33 " around at the belly button (and 28.5 " inches just

below the boobs, for some comparison). It looks totally abnormal. I'm not

bloated or anything, it's just fat.

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well crap! I can't afford the adrenal test, but could afford $7 for Nutricology

- Adrenal Natural Glandular. I'm so tired in the mornings (it's been getting

worse too)! I get up at 8:00 AM, take care of my bird, and eat. But by 9:00 -

9:30, my eyes are so heavy that I just can't keep them open any longer. I go

back to bed for a couple hours, and then I'm more or less functional. I was

hoping this supplement might help.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Holly,

>

> You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

>

> Sky

[Guest guest]

Well crap! I can't afford the adrenal test, but could afford $7 for Nutricology

- Adrenal Natural Glandular. I'm so tired in the mornings (it's been getting

worse too)! I get up at 8:00 AM, take care of my bird, and eat. But by 9:00 -

9:30, my eyes are so heavy that I just can't keep them open any longer. I go

back to bed for a couple hours, and then I'm more or less functional. I was

hoping this supplement might help.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Holly,

>

> You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

>

> Sky

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

I have been dealing with this hard core post surgery too.

It's rough. Buh!

Jodi

> >

> > Holly,

> >

> > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> >

> > Sky

>

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

I have been dealing with this hard core post surgery too.

It's rough. Buh!

Jodi

> >

> > Holly,

> >

> > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> >

> > Sky

>

[Guest guest]

Really? That's interesting! I wonder how long it takes to get over?

I just noticed that I'm not having much pain on my left side anymore (where they

made 2 small incisions). I had become resigned to the fact that the scar tissue

would hurt a little forever, but perhaps I was wrong *knocks on wood*. How are

your incisions? Did you get the hernia taken care of?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> > >

> > > Holly,

> > >

> > > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> > >

> > > Sky

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Really? That's interesting! I wonder how long it takes to get over?

I just noticed that I'm not having much pain on my left side anymore (where they

made 2 small incisions). I had become resigned to the fact that the scar tissue

would hurt a little forever, but perhaps I was wrong *knocks on wood*. How are

your incisions? Did you get the hernia taken care of?

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> > >

> > > Holly,

> > >

> > > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> > >

> > > Sky

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got a

bit infected for a while but self corrected.

I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage of

kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for the

adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as well.

Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body work

that has been pivotal.

In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and horrific

dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot tell you how

much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person really.

I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back. Still

gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

Have you had your saliva tested at all?

Jodi

> > > >

> > > > Holly,

> > > >

> > > > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> > > >

> > > > Sky

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got a

bit infected for a while but self corrected.

I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage of

kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for the

adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as well.

Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body work

that has been pivotal.

In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and horrific

dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot tell you how

much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person really.

I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back. Still

gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

Have you had your saliva tested at all?

Jodi

> > > >

> > > > Holly,

> > > >

> > > > You really need to get a adrenal test done before you start supps.

> > > >

> > > > Sky

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, one of my small incisions is still a little puffy, and itches some. A

friend told me they can inject a scar with hydrocortisone (I think) and it will

shrink up to nothing. Her husband showed off his scar from major heart surgery.

The top half was barely noticeable, while the bottom half (which he didn't have

done yet) was wide and puffy.

Is the armour thyroid working for you? That's the only dessicated thyroid that

my insurance covers, but I've heard that a lot of people are unhappy with it

these days (a formula change, I guess).

I'm going to get my saliva tested sometime in April. Hopefully once I get this

thyroid and adrenal business taken care of, I'll be out there kicking butt like

you've been ;-).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Heya Holly,

>

> My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got a

bit infected for a while but self corrected.

> I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

>

> I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

> I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage of

kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for the

adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as well.

Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body work

that has been pivotal.

>

> In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and horrific

dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot tell you how

much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person really.

>

> I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back. Still

gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

>

> Have you had your saliva tested at all?

>

> Jodi

[Guest guest]

Actually, one of my small incisions is still a little puffy, and itches some. A

friend told me they can inject a scar with hydrocortisone (I think) and it will

shrink up to nothing. Her husband showed off his scar from major heart surgery.

The top half was barely noticeable, while the bottom half (which he didn't have

done yet) was wide and puffy.

Is the armour thyroid working for you? That's the only dessicated thyroid that

my insurance covers, but I've heard that a lot of people are unhappy with it

these days (a formula change, I guess).

I'm going to get my saliva tested sometime in April. Hopefully once I get this

thyroid and adrenal business taken care of, I'll be out there kicking butt like

you've been ;-).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Heya Holly,

>

> My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got a

bit infected for a while but self corrected.

> I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

>

> I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

> I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage of

kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for the

adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as well.

Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body work

that has been pivotal.

>

> In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and horrific

dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot tell you how

much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person really.

>

> I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back. Still

gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

>

> Have you had your saliva tested at all?

>

> Jodi

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

I had scar therapy injections and it really helped as the bigger incision was

inflamed and itchy. It's not really pretty at all but it's not an issue. I hope

you'll have results you want!

I use an SCD compounded Armour. It is the T3 & T4 derived from Armour.

I am happy with it. Many are switching to NatureThroid- I tried that and it

didn't agree with me. The nice thing about both non compounded products is that

it has T1, T2 and calcitonin in it.

I am happy with my armour prep plus I take a kelp derived iodine (illegal) and

it has helped tremendously. The adrenal function is a different story all

together and I cannot do the cortisol route.

Are you hypo or Hyper? Have you looked into T3 only? Depends on how you're

pooling and dumping into RT3.

They say it takes about a year to feel " ok " after surgery. I am close to the

year mark and I still have ecology issues. The gut ecology goes wonky after

surgery like this. Ughh.

Hang in there!

Jodi

> >

> > Heya Holly,

> >

> > My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got

a bit infected for a while but self corrected.

> > I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

> >

> > I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

> > I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage

of kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for

the adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as

well. Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body

work that has been pivotal.

> >

> > In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and

horrific dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot

tell you how much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person

really.

> >

> > I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back.

Still gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

> >

> > Have you had your saliva tested at all?

> >

> > Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

Heya Holly,

I had scar therapy injections and it really helped as the bigger incision was

inflamed and itchy. It's not really pretty at all but it's not an issue. I hope

you'll have results you want!

I use an SCD compounded Armour. It is the T3 & T4 derived from Armour.

I am happy with it. Many are switching to NatureThroid- I tried that and it

didn't agree with me. The nice thing about both non compounded products is that

it has T1, T2 and calcitonin in it.

I am happy with my armour prep plus I take a kelp derived iodine (illegal) and

it has helped tremendously. The adrenal function is a different story all

together and I cannot do the cortisol route.

Are you hypo or Hyper? Have you looked into T3 only? Depends on how you're

pooling and dumping into RT3.

They say it takes about a year to feel " ok " after surgery. I am close to the

year mark and I still have ecology issues. The gut ecology goes wonky after

surgery like this. Ughh.

Hang in there!

Jodi

> >

> > Heya Holly,

> >

> > My incisions don't hurt either *knock on wood* as well. The bigger one got

a bit infected for a while but self corrected.

> > I need to schedule the dang hernia surgery but since I am so cold sensitive

since the operation I am waiting for the warmer months to do it. Thinking I

will do it in May.

> >

> > I do heavy duty acupuncture for the Adrenal stuff. It helps.

> > I also make sure to use a himalayan salt water solution and a micro dosage

of kelp derived iodine (illegal) daily for my thyroid- which has been great for

the adrenal stuff including a micro dose of DHEA and I use armour thyroid as

well. Now, I am working on this sleep apnea stuff but really it's the mind body

work that has been pivotal.

> >

> > In my case it's years of dis-ease, medications, emotional garbage and

horrific dietary choices that have caused this avalanche of stuff. I cannot

tell you how much better I am than I was 3 years back. I'm a different person

really.

> >

> > I used to have a lot of upper GI pain in my right side and in my back.

Still gets congested but my gods it's so much better. A friggen miracle really.

> >

> > Have you had your saliva tested at all?

> >

> > Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi,

I wonder if it's common for scars to itch? All 4 of my gallbladder incisions

healed fine. It's just one small scar from the bowel surgery that's puffy and

itchy.

I think I'm hypothyroid (TSH is 5.6 something). I just called my PCP today to

request further tests. He wasn't interested in pursuing the thyroid thing, but I

figure if I bug him enough, he'll give in just to make me go away ;-). If not,

I'm going to call each one of my specialists and ask them to run the tests. One

of them has got to give!

It makes me feel better that they say it can take a year to heal. I'm doing all

right, but sometimes things still feel a little out of whack. Hopefully in

another year, we'll both be past all of this!

Holly

>

> Heya Holly,

>

> I had scar therapy injections and it really helped as the bigger incision was

inflamed and itchy. It's not really pretty at all but it's not an issue. I hope

you'll have results you want!

>

> I use an SCD compounded Armour. It is the T3 & T4 derived from Armour.

> I am happy with it. Many are switching to NatureThroid- I tried that and it

didn't agree with me. The nice thing about both non compounded products is that

it has T1, T2 and calcitonin in it.

> I am happy with my armour prep plus I take a kelp derived iodine (illegal) and

it has helped tremendously. The adrenal function is a different story all

together and I cannot do the cortisol route.

>

> Are you hypo or Hyper? Have you looked into T3 only? Depends on how you're

pooling and dumping into RT3.

>

> They say it takes about a year to feel " ok " after surgery. I am close to the

year mark and I still have ecology issues. The gut ecology goes wonky after

surgery like this. Ughh.

>

> Hang in there!

> Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi,

I wonder if it's common for scars to itch? All 4 of my gallbladder incisions

healed fine. It's just one small scar from the bowel surgery that's puffy and

itchy.

I think I'm hypothyroid (TSH is 5.6 something). I just called my PCP today to

request further tests. He wasn't interested in pursuing the thyroid thing, but I

figure if I bug him enough, he'll give in just to make me go away ;-). If not,

I'm going to call each one of my specialists and ask them to run the tests. One

of them has got to give!

It makes me feel better that they say it can take a year to heal. I'm doing all

right, but sometimes things still feel a little out of whack. Hopefully in

another year, we'll both be past all of this!

Holly

>

> Heya Holly,

>

> I had scar therapy injections and it really helped as the bigger incision was

inflamed and itchy. It's not really pretty at all but it's not an issue. I hope

you'll have results you want!

>

> I use an SCD compounded Armour. It is the T3 & T4 derived from Armour.

> I am happy with it. Many are switching to NatureThroid- I tried that and it

didn't agree with me. The nice thing about both non compounded products is that

it has T1, T2 and calcitonin in it.

> I am happy with my armour prep plus I take a kelp derived iodine (illegal) and

it has helped tremendously. The adrenal function is a different story all

together and I cannot do the cortisol route.

>

> Are you hypo or Hyper? Have you looked into T3 only? Depends on how you're

pooling and dumping into RT3.

>

> They say it takes about a year to feel " ok " after surgery. I am close to the

year mark and I still have ecology issues. The gut ecology goes wonky after

surgery like this. Ughh.

>

> Hang in there!

> Jodi